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HASEEB ANSARI Thursday, October 31, 2013 01:55 PM

CCE-2013 Screening Test schedule
 
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[url]http://spsc.gov.pk/Press_Release/Public%20Notice%20PCS.jpg[/url]

HASEEB ANSARI Thursday, October 31, 2013 02:00 PM

Syllabus for Screening Test
 
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Source :[url]http://spsc.gov.pk/Press_Release/Syllabus%20pcs.jpg[/url]

fasadi bacha Thursday, October 31, 2013 04:05 PM

what is passing criteria?

HASEEB ANSARI Thursday, October 31, 2013 04:26 PM

[QUOTE=fasadi bacha;663804]what is passing criteria?[/QUOTE]


[B]SPSC has not mentioned any passing criteria. It will be decide after conduction of the screening test, I guess![/B]:thinking

student Thursday, October 31, 2013 04:59 PM

passing criteria to be decided by the committee after the test .

pureapak Thursday, October 31, 2013 06:33 PM

The legitimacy of this Screening test remains under shadow if one views it in the perspective of FPSC's case.

Federal commission made such announcement and it was reversed due to bypassing the legal protocols.

CSS-2014 was to be initiated with screening test but FPSC could not make it happen this year. They did not get it approved by the establishment division which later exercised its prerogative and forced the abortion.

SPSC revises the same instance. CM approval is overlooked with the process carrying serious legal undertones.
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student Thursday, October 31, 2013 06:46 PM

[QUOTE=pureapak;663842]The legitimacy of this Screening test remains under shadow if one views it in the perspective of FPSC's case.

Federal commission made such announcement and it was reversed due to bypassing the legal protocols.

CSS-2014 was to be initiated with screening test but FPSC could not make it happen this year. They did not get it approved by the establishment division which later exercised its prerogative and forced the abortion.

SPSC revises the same instance. CM approval is overlooked with the process carrying serious legal undertones.
,,,,,
..[/QUOTE]

Comparing SPSC with FPSC is nothing but a joke. While seeing the fanfare with which spsc has advertised this screening test , I can only marvel at the naivety of this institute . It reminds me of the quote that " Fools rush in where angles fear to trade ".

Bozdar Iqbal Thursday, October 31, 2013 06:49 PM

please elaborate the [B][I][U]Note"The detailed syllabi of topics(Part 1-11-111) are same as for compulsory subjects"[/U][/I][/B]
Islamiat is not compulsory subjects in CCE.Hence i could not understand it.

student Thursday, October 31, 2013 07:00 PM

[QUOTE=Bozdar Iqbal;663846]please elaborate the [B][I][U]Note"The detailed syllabi of topics(Part 1-11-111) are same as for compulsory subjects"[/U][/I][/B]
Islamiat is not compulsory subjects in CCE.Hence i could not understand it.[/QUOTE]

Haha :-) I guess they forgot to edit the advertisement of FPSC regarding screening test :-) . However , syllabus of Islamiat is that of optional paper Islamiat .

Ahsan Ali Shaikh Thursday, October 31, 2013 07:43 PM

It should have been before CCE-13's registration
 
[QUOTE=HASEEB ANSARI;663812][B]SPSC has not mentioned any passing criteria. It will be decide after conduction of the screening test, I guess![/B]:thinking[/QUOTE]

And what about those who would fail, would they be paying Rs.1000, the actual fee for CCE-13, just for the screening test! I don't think its a wise decision at the 11th hour.

Ahsan Ali Shaikh Thursday, October 31, 2013 07:53 PM

[QUOTE=student;663845]Comparing SPSC with FPSC is nothing but a joke. While seeing the fanfare with which spsc has advertised this screening test , I can only marvel at the naivety of this institute . It reminds me of the quote that " Fools rush in where angles fear to trade ".[/QUOTE]

Disappointingly, I am starting to doubt that CCE-13 will be a merit based exam :unsure:

bliss Thursday, October 31, 2013 08:57 PM

[QUOTE=Ahsan Ali Shaikh;663865]Disappointingly, I am starting to doubt that CCE-13 will be a merit based exam :unsure:[/QUOTE]
SPSC's transparency remains debatable, always. And we have strong reasons to doubt its honesty and fairplay based on its past performance. But, unfortunately, we can do nothing about it. :nono

Alipacifist Thursday, October 31, 2013 09:37 PM

Find the similarities :)



Screening Test for CSS Competitive Examination – 2015

It is notified for information of intending candidates that FPSC will hold a Screening test to sift candidates for CSS written examination‐2015. The screening test will be of 3 hours duration comprising MCQs of 200 marks. The contents of screening test are based on English, General Abilities, General Knowledge (Everyday Science, Current Affairs, Pakistan Affairs) and Islamiat. The contents of the syllabus are the same as already prescribed for Competitive Examination.

Part-I: English (weightage = 20%)
Vocabulary, Grammar usage, Comprehension

Part-II: General Abilities (weightage = 20%)
a) Basic Arithmetic, Algebra and Geometry, (SSC Level)
b) Logical Reasoning and Analytical Ability
c) General Mental Ability

Part-III: General Knowledge (weightage 15x3 = 45%)
a) Everyday Science (15%)
b) Current Affairs (15%)
c) Pakistan Affairs (15%)

Part-IV: Islamiat (weightage = 15%)

Note: (i). The detailed syllabi of topics (part-I, III & IV) are the same as for compulsory subjects.
(ii). The non muslim candidate may not attempt part-IV Islamiat, their marks in Pakistan Affairs part-III (c) shall be counted in lieu of Islamiat i.e. their marks in Pakistan Affairs shall be doubled.

Tabish Shah Friday, November 01, 2013 12:43 AM

[QUOTE=Ahsan Ali Shaikh;663865]Disappointingly, I am starting to doubt that CCE-13 will be a merit based exam :unsure:[/QUOTE]

Im not here to discourage or demotivate the candidates of CCE-2013, but ive seen the rates of all the posts/seats. If you ask me the source, its from C.M house :-)

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Invincible Friday, November 01, 2013 01:43 AM

[B][B]SPSC management has taken this step to lessen their burden for Written Test since number of candidates is said to have crossed 30 thousand figure.

Qualifying this test may seem like a herculean task, infact its not.

Good luck![/B][/B]

Ahsan Ali Shaikh Friday, November 01, 2013 02:04 AM

[QUOTE=Tabish Shah;663959]Im not here to discourage or demotivate the candidates of CCE-2013, but ive seen the rates of all the posts/seats. If you ask me the source, its from C.M house :-)[/QUOTE]

Even then they want to conduct screening test :wacko:

Sarah Yasir Friday, November 01, 2013 10:08 AM

Screening test preparation
 
Could any one tell me how shall i prepare means from which books?

Bozdar Iqbal Friday, November 01, 2013 10:12 AM

Be optimistic dear friends.
Sreening test is in favour of unapprpachable and deserved candidates.

exclusively Friday, November 01, 2013 11:54 AM

Now dear look at this

PCS will be held (exams) dec/Jan

CSS will be held in feb........

This is really difficult one for me to manage to the level of perfectiion for both of the exams. As there are different subjects, I have different subjects in CSS and PCS respectively....

HASEEB ANSARI Friday, November 01, 2013 12:00 PM

[QUOTE=Ahsan Ali Shaikh;663862]And what about those who would fail, would they be paying Rs.1000, the actual fee for CCE-13, just for the screening test! I don't think its a wise decision at the 11th hour.[/QUOTE]

[B]Challan fees is not refundable.[/B]

Muhammad Raheel V Friday, November 01, 2013 12:03 PM

@Haseeb
 
Haseeb, I have emailed you couple of times, I wanted to discuss something with you. Kindly reply me.

Shaikhu Friday, November 01, 2013 07:37 PM

Ahsan dear, you are absolutely right, what kind of approach the commission has decided to adopt..! it's completely unwise to take screening test at this stage as the candidates have paid Rs1000 just for C.C.E. Therefore, it is not just with the poor candidates who pay blood for their educational expenses and preparing for the C.C.E. at night.:angry::angry:

Haseeb sir, what about negative marking in screening test and passing marks or marks ratio required to be nominated for C.C.E.2013?:con

Ahsan Ali Shaikh Saturday, November 02, 2013 12:59 AM

[QUOTE=Shaikhu;664194]Ahsan dear, you are absolutely right, what kind of approach the commission has decided to adopt..! it's completely unwise to take screening test at this stage as the candidates have paid Rs1000 just for C.C.E. Therefore, it is not just with the poor candidates who pay blood for their educational expenses and preparing for the C.C.E. at night.:angry::angry:

Haseeb sir, what about negative marking in screening test and passing marks or marks ratio required to be nominated for C.C.E.2013?:con[/QUOTE]

Nobody knows its passing criteria. I think SPSC would set it after conducting the screening test :laughing

blackandwhite Saturday, November 02, 2013 07:27 PM

Test Venue!!
 
How is this possible that there is only one venue for screening test i.e. Hyderabad? How are they going to manage everything and how is it possible for candidates from other cities of Sindh to be there.

HASEEB ANSARI Sunday, November 03, 2013 10:21 AM

[QUOTE=blackandwhite;664546]How is this possible that there is only one venue for screening test i.e. Hyderabad? How are they going to manage everything and how is it possible for candidates from other cities of Sindh to be there.[/QUOTE]

[B]That is why they are holding screening test in two days. This will divide number of the candidates in two parts. [/B]

exclusively Sunday, November 03, 2013 11:02 AM

[QUOTE=blackandwhite;664546]How is this possible that there is only one venue for screening test i.e. Hyderabad? How are they going to manage everything and how is it possible for candidates from other cities of Sindh to be there.[/QUOTE]

Same thing they did in the screening test of ASI(Police), many schools will be the exam center for screening center for CCE13... I hope that now at this time they will manage their performance to the level of perfection while conducting test. Because, in ASI test, I saw many people were using mobile phones and even they were talking to each and other. As our invegilator was a school teach (I think), he did not say any thing to candidates, I was seeing the whole scenario that this is the credibility of the spsc's test conduction. Any how, I passed the screening test of ASI. But I expect that now spsc will conduct this coming test as per her cradibility. Otherwise, it would again be unfair to those who have been burning oil at mid nights for getting through in the tests...

Any how, I wish you all the friends very best of luck.

Ali Mallah Sunday, November 03, 2013 01:24 PM

SPSC received about 23,400 applications for C.C.E and as we know that when number of applications crossed 15,000, even FPSC came with the option of screening test as they can't handle such number of applications. Hence, the decision of the SPSC is justified but they announced it a bit late that puts many applicants in trouble.

[QUOTE=Shaikhu;664194]
Haseeb sir, what about negative marking in screening test and passing marks or marks ratio required to be nominated for C.C.E.2013?:con[/QUOTE]


There are 99% chances for the negative marking in the screening test as we have witnessed negative marking in ASI screening test. The test for PCS will be like similar fashion but a bit tougher in terms of question level.
No one can tell the passing criteria at this stage, may be initially they set 50% as minimum criteria to pass the test and to be considered for next step. Even then final selection will be based on the number of candidates obtaining more than 50%. So, instead of thinking bout of cut-off score (which seems useless) aspirants should focus on studies as the passing criteria may fluctuate based on performance of the candidates. You should aim higher like to score 80% or even more than that.

[QUOTE=HASEEB ANSARI;664663][B]That is why they are holding screening test in two days. This will divide number of the candidates in two parts. [/B][/QUOTE]

If SPSC is going to conduct screening test in 2 days means the Q.Papers will surely be different, one paper may contain difficult Qs than the other, so we can't say it a fair chance to all applicants. So, here in screening test surely luck has to play key role. If they divide candidates in such a way that rural candidates are examined one day and urban on the other day then all the applicants in similar category will get the same paper. This division will make sense as the seats for rural and urban are clearly defined.

Ahsan Ali Shaikh Sunday, November 03, 2013 03:02 PM

[QUOTE=Ali Mallah;664694]SPSC received about 23,400 applications for C.C.E and as we know that when number of applications crossed 15,000, even FPSC came with the option of screening test as they can't handle such number of applications. Hence, the decision of the SPSC is justified...[/QUOTE]

No offence bro, I don't agree. First, higher the number of applications, higher the application-fee-revenue, SPSC could finance more recourses to deal with such a high number of applications. Secondly, FPSC's announcement was timely and wise. Had FPCS's idea been materialized, it would have given sufficient time for its preparation plus, unlike SPSC's case, the failures would not have to bear the fees of CE-14 (Rs.2200).

HASEEB ANSARI Sunday, November 03, 2013 04:52 PM

[QUOTE]@Ali Mallah:
If they divide candidates in such a way that rural candidates are examined one day and urban on the other day then all the applicants in similar category will get the same paper. This division will make sense as the seats for rural and urban are clearly defined.[/QUOTE]

[B]One paper on both days is impossible. Yes, to give candidates a fair chance, they can examine all the canidates at once. [/B]

muhammad hussain Sunday, November 03, 2013 06:53 PM

23500 applications mean Rs.23,500,000/- :P
if screening test is that much necessary , SPSC should atleast hold it simultaneously at Hyd, Khi and Sukkur on the same date, giving fair chance to all the candidates. the two day test will result in a lot of concerns/objections. v vl hear ppl saying the test of date was difficult than the other one.

inayatali Monday, November 04, 2013 03:36 AM

[QUOTE=muhammad hussain;664834]23500 applications mean Rs.23,500,000/- :P
if screening test is that much necessary , SPSC should atleast hold it simultaneously at Hyd, Khi and Sukkur on the same date, giving fair chance to all the candidates. the two day test will result in a lot of concerns/objections. v vl hear ppl saying the test of date was difficult than the other one.[/QUOTE]

Totally agree dear, SPSC has earned much revenues. They must have arranged the screening test at Karachi, Hyderabad, Sukkur and Larkana as they have mentioned in the exam forms. Test must be on single day otherwise spsc's transparency would be questioned.

Tenrai Saturday, November 09, 2013 08:43 PM

This screening test is farce, most of the seats are already sold.

SPSC CCE is nothing like CSS so don't really expect anything. According to one of my uncles, it is common for people to use cellphones or ask each other for answers! Imagine someone having a smartphone with Google at their disposal. Invigilators are servile and don't bother to exert their authority.

I think it is unfair to candidates, forcing them all to convene in Hyderabad like this; especially those who would be coming from interior Sindh or Karachi

All in all this should turn out to be a fun a experience, I just hope there isn't any negative marking.

aadi khokhar Saturday, November 09, 2013 09:00 PM

[QUOTE=Tenrai;666681]This screening test is farce, most of the seats are already sold.

SPSC CCE is nothing like CSS so don't really expect anything. According to one of my uncles, it is common for people to use cellphones or ask each other for answers! Imagine someone having a smartphone with Google at their disposal. Invigilators are servile and don't bother to exert their authority.

I think it is unfair to candidates, forcing them all to convene in Hyderabad like this; especially those who would be coming from interior Sindh or Karachi

All in all this should turn out to be a fun a experience, I just hope there isn't any negative marking.[/QUOTE]


Dear,whatever you have said is the last thing that needs to be discussed here with the struggling youth.

I know many of my friends becoming lecturers,ASIs etc on sheer merit through SPSC exams and to clear your doubts i must tell you that they all are from very humble background who could not have paid hundreds of thousands to purchase a seat.Moreover,my elder brother's friends became ACs and SOs in last PCS,again on pure merit.

I personally have qualified screening test of ASI ALHAMDULILLAH without any "Sifarish" and i did not witness any such thing in the test that you mentioned.Thus,it is a humble request that we must encourage and motivate students to try harder instead of demoralizing their attitude.

Regards

shahgkhi Saturday, November 09, 2013 09:30 PM

Jin ka naam candidate list may hai yeh kafi hia ya SPSC waly admit card ghar per post karengay? Mera pora naam Shahzaib Khan hai mager list may sirf Shahzaib likha hai father name theek likha hai. Admit card na aany ke surut may kia Hyderabad admit card lainy jana hoga?

aadi khokhar Saturday, November 09, 2013 09:36 PM

[QUOTE=shahgkhi;666690]Jin ka naam candidate list may hai yeh kafi hia ya SPSC waly admit card ghar per post karengay? Mera pora naam Shahzaib Khan hai mager list may sirf Shahzaib likha hai father name theek likha hai. Admit card na aany ke surut may kia Hyderabad admit card lainy jana hoga?[/QUOTE]


Dear,please click on the following link to know your query.

[url]http://spsc.gov.pk/Press_Release/Public%20Notice%20PCS.jpg[/url]

Regards

Tenrai Saturday, November 09, 2013 11:52 PM

@aadi khokhar

It is only with conscientious knowledge of your demons that you can truly assail to victory. Merit is just the top 10 or at times even less than that. Unlike CSS where quota is promptly filled, CCE is a completely different ball game. Previous CCE was in 2008 I believe? times were better. Then again SPSC has always been rife with scandals.

It is a competition after all and competitions don't always have happy endings, may the best man win...


Regards

Tenrai
(天来)

P.S: Congratulation on getting through your ASI screening exam, all the best for your written test!

Red Blood Monday, November 11, 2013 12:09 AM

last PMS-Sindh kab howa tha??

exclusively Monday, November 11, 2013 12:58 AM

[QUOTE=Red Blood;667062]last PMS-Sindh kab howa tha??[/QUOTE]

2008 as far as I know...

mushtaque ahmed solangi Monday, November 11, 2013 11:43 AM

I think last time PCS was announced in 2008, but exam was held in 2009 in the month of april and may.

incounternable Tuesday, November 12, 2013 09:21 AM

CCE 2013 Update
 
Dear aspirants screening test of candidates who had selected Hyderabad as their exam center is on 23rd Nov 2013 and not on 24th Nov as earlier announced..

A new notification has been updated on SPSC's website regarding dates and the correction is made in dates..

Please visit: [url]www.spsc.gov.pk[/url]

Hyderabad on dt: 23.11.2013
Karachi on dt: 24.11.2013
Sukkur on dt: 24.11.2013
Larkano on dt: 24.11.2013

Regards
Stay Blessed


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