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Originally Posted by MadihaMalik
This is certainly a very abominable and extremely obnoxious statement on the part of our already quite notorious governer. I reckon every single pakistani is quite well aware of his secular ideas and religious aloofness, so his statement does not appear to be astonishing so far.
While I have had only differences with this crone of Zardari's, I have to say I'm with him on this 100%.

He wants us, as a civilized society, to repeal a law that is misused against a helpless minority. It is such a ridiculous law that it carries the death penalty. Pakistan was never meant to be a theocracy with religious bigoted laws at the helm of affairs.

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Originally Posted by MadihaMalik
It is so unfortunate of pakistan to have such sick minded people among the ruling class. The state which came into its very existance only in the name of religion, is confronted with the worst ever absence of even the basic instinct of Islam. The rife of the dereliction and offenses against the religious teachings has already made Pakistan suffer like anything. Moreover, very obviously, under the shade of the so-called "enlightened moderation", this transgression has agrandized to the highest level.
Madiha, are you aware that the same lobby that supports this draconian Blasphemy Law is the same that wants the Hudood Ordinance to be re-changed so that when a woman is raped, she has to provide four male witnesses otherwise she would be sentenced to jail for adultery. In the civilized world, we are mocked and ridiculed for this barbaric law in which a rape victim is told to provide four male witnesses or else become a victim of our 'laws'.

As for "blasphemy," do you know what the most obvious thing to do is when you're at odds with non-Muslim family/person or group? Just proclaim that you saw them desecrate the Quran or you heard them say something vile about the Prophet and you'll not only have a mob take care of your problems for you, you'd have the aggrieved sent to the gallows, too!

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Originally Posted by MadihaMalik
I totally believe that the quagmire of crucial circumstances and the crises which has been besieging our beloved state for the past decade, are the result of Allah's imprecation for the reason of the missing religious aptitude.
Following that logic, atheist Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, France as well as Shintoist Japan and Christian America should've had rocks of fire reigning down on them.

All of our demons, without exception, are of our own creation. The day we stop blaming God and foreign agencies for all our problems and start accepting our fault and begin to rectify those mistakes of the past will be the day our salvation comes - from our own hands and our own sweat and blood.

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Originally Posted by MadihaMalik
We all, as muslims, are well acquainted with the fact that the person (whether believer or a non believer) who is alleged of carrying out this blasphemous act of desecration of Holy Quran should be prone to religious penalty as per the islamic law. Then why talk of repealing such acts which aim to halt the anticipated recurrence of such profane incidents???????

This can surely lead to Allah's curse. (God forbid)
As a Muslim, you believe that God is the Greatest. If someone desecrates His Eternal word, surely God is Rehman-ur-Raheem and He will forgive Him. Even then, it's a matter between Allah and that blasphemer, there's no other guilty party. If anything, the "blasphemer" will spend an eternity in hellfire, isn't that enough punishment for you?

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Originally Posted by MadihaMalik
Our nation already has accosted enough of terrorism by the people who are none other than the religious extremists. They are already infuriated at the excessive religious emancipation which is the GIFT of our contemporary as well as the previous governments, backed by Uncle Sam's dictation,therefore, revocation of such laws (which prove to provide the religious security) would result in belligerent retaliation by those extremists. And this time, the counteraction is going to be with a severer blow.

May Allah guide our rulers through the right path.............Ameen

The same religious element would not have you post your picture on the internet, it would not let people use the internet, it would not allow you to go out with a male guardian and a burkha, it would not allow you the freedom of speech you are enjoying now and it would most certainly take away from you all that you think is decent and civilized.

How far should we go to please these religious bigots?

Please, as the educated few of this country, we must realize how draconian this law is. Imagine this:

- When you proclaim yourself a Jew, you directly infer that Christianity and Islam are false religions. That is, Jesus was not the Messiah and Mohammad (sw) was a false prophet.

- When you proclaim yourself a Christian, you directly infer that Islam is a false religion.

- When you proclaim yourself a Muslim, you directly infer that Christianity is a false religion. You also proclaim that the Gita, the Vedas are all false and Hindus are kaffirs.


So when you say you belong to one group, you reject all their books and teachings as false by default. So by proclaiming you're a Hindu, you automatically say that Islam is not the true religion so that's blasphemy in itself. There's no end to it. Think about it!

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Originally Posted by Silent Spectator
Asslamulaikum,

I am second to MadihaMalik!!

Actually let me remind all of you people about the worst words of this Corrupt Politician which he uttered after the Drone Attacks in Waziristan, he added" PAKISTANI'S SHOULD NOT THINK OF THESE DRONE ATTACKS, RATHER PAY HEED TO THE IMPORT OF SWEET DOLLARS" Very Shameful words!!
Now, this Man, Calling himself a Secular person, Actually such people are Ignorant, not secular, they are so called Muslims, not only this Worst man rather so many others as well!!
In a Country which was made by the name of Islam, and we call it an Islamic state, there a Governor demands such thing, it is really amazing!
Scholars of pakistan are requeted to come forward to deal with this Man!!

Regards.

While I disagree with the governor wholeheartedly on his remark about the drone attacks, I have to point a few things out:

- Pakistan was not made in the name of Islam. Pakistan was made as a country for the Muslims of India

- Pakistan was never meant to be an Islamic state like Saudi Arabia, Somalia or Iran.

- The scholars of Pakistan should support Jinnah Sahab's Pakistan and not the Pakistan of Fazl-ur-Rehman, Zia and Qazi Hussain Ahmed.



In any case Pakistan is not going to be a theocratic State to be ruled by priests with a divine mission. We have many non-Muslims --Hindus, Christians, and Parsis --but they are all Pakistanis. They will enjoy the same rights and privileges as any other citizens and will play their rightful part in the affairs of Pakistan. - Quaid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah

Even now there are some States in existence where there are discriminations made and bars imposed against a particular class. Thank God, we are not starting in those days. We are starting in the days when there is no discrimination, no distinction between one community and another, no discrimination between one caste or creed and another. We are starting with this fundamental principle that we are all citizens and equal citizens of one State. - Quaid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah

The great majority of us are Muslims. We follow the teachings of the Prophet Mohammed (may peace be upon him). We are members of the brotherhood of Islam in which all are equal in rights, dignity and self-respect. Consequently, we have a special and a very deep sense of unity. But make no mistake: Pakistan is not a theocracy or anything like it. - Quaid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah



You are free; you are free to go to your temples. You are free to go to your mosques or to any other places of worship in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion, caste or creed --that has nothing to do with the business of the State. - Quaid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah


The exploits of your leaders in many a historic field of battle; the progress of your Revolution; the rise and career of the great Ataturk, his revitalization of your nation by his great statesmanship, courage and foresight all these stirring events are well-known to the people of Pakistan. - Quaid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah


No nation can rise to the height of glory unless your women are side by side with you. We are victims of evil customs. It is a crime against humanity that our women are shut up within the four walls of the houses as prisoners. There is no sanction anywhere for the deplorable condition in which our women have to live. - Quaid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah




People who support this ridiculous theocratic law disagree with Jinnah Sahab himself.
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