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Originally Posted by sana_krn
well well here topic is islam spreas by sword or not???? not that islamic territory spread by sword or not...its proven truth territories always expand by power n weapons.
but b4 saying that islam was spread by sword lets c other asspectc wen holy prophet(P.B.U.H) migrated to madina almost all ppl of madina (AUS, KHiZRAJ) accepted islam territory was conquers 1st muslims state was evolved but without sword.....yea macca was conquerd but again muslims were not one who did agression or invasion it was ppl of macca who did that n in responce muslims reacted n victory ws granted by Allah.
all the khulfa-e-rashdeen were not violent even all muslims ruler,khulfa just responded to aggression n becoz they were in,usd good strategey they conquer and snatched most of the land of enemy.
n bcoz of islam this s caled modren civilised world came to know abt humantarian laws. we should all be proud that Islam has laid down a set of humanitarian laws, Along with principles now incorporated in the Geneva Conventions; Islamic law contains provisions not yet incorporated in modern international instruments. For instance, the protections provided by the Conventions are in the nature of multilateral treaties. Islam provides all these protections unilaterally. Similarly, the Conventions allow the detaining state to exact labour from those prisoners of war that are below officer rank. According to Islamic law, no labour can be exacted from the captives.
n let me say that world was never a peacful place to live wars are always in existance in any part of world...so one cant belame islam for that bazintini romen,greek all anciant ppl were not muslim bt they spread teritory through sword. y nobody says thn that chrischnity is spread through sword? y for islam only??? romans were not muslim but bfor evedant of islam they were rulling the world through cruelity n sword.
muslims wre blammed bcoz they prowed them self to b rulers n super powers. n its law of nature that one super power always exist in world as now USA...y dunt u blame USA for its agression now???? tell me is christinity spreading through american invasions????as bush himself declare these invassions cruesads????
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dear lady u r confusing the issue through over simplification and application of modern day morality on the past.
yes the topic is if islam was spread through sword or peaceful preaching. my answer is through BOTH...
u cannot deny territory as a vital need for a population. for the propagation of a philosophy, it must ve a strong base of territory and following in a population, religion not being an exception.
u gave the example of the establishment of first muslim state in madina but ur knowledge of the history seems flawed to em. dear soon after muslims' coming into madina, they came in direct conflict with the jews. it was "sword" that helped muslims in maintaining their ground, defeating the machinations of both jews and munafiqeen, and finally expelling the miscreant jews from the holy land. go get ur facts right first. and muslim defended this city through "sword" from the makkan infidels (whole history of ghazwahs is a fact to prove this contention, by the way read the translation of the prayer of the Holy Prophet on the day of badar for clarification). and tell me if the Holy Prophet wasn't commanding the army of 10,000 armed followers, were it possible for muslims to take back makkah without spilling blood???
the ongoing bedate makes me question that y is it that europe remained essentially non-muslim????
answer: bcoz muslims could not achieve a "military" victory. they were defeated on the plains of france in louvre in the early centuries of islam and therefore islam could not penetrate into mainland europe. trust me the muslim victory would ve ensured teh europe as a muslim land. if muslims maintained their hold on spain, it was bcoz of sword...
don't enforce modern principles of humanitarian morality on the past. yes muslims were never aggressors but yes they were strong militarily: this ensured propagation of isalm.
yes modern era is different. religion is at backseat. but the basic fact is the same, the powerful enforces his philosophy on the weak, through force of arms or force of argument. look at the usa. isn't it enforcing its version of the liberal democracy on the rest of the world????