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Originally Posted by aphrodite View Post
As per ur Kamran Khan query regarding Washington Post, no intelligence recruit openly acknowledges their associations and they for the most part work undercover. He doesnt 'work, work' for CIA as an agent because for that, you have to be a US citizen in addition to undergoing stringent training. He is a 'recruit' however, that agencies may pick info from with or without his knowledge that he is somehow aiding the agency. In my opinion Kamran Khan is aware of this exploitation and is being well-compensated for it. I cant get myself to believe that a small-time journalist with a mediocre English ends up in Washington post- beats common sense.
Doubt cuts the root of logic and if we have already prepared to make a judgement, we would certainly concieve the things in support of our opinion.

Im not here to defend Kamran khan or Geo but only to share my view which might be differing.

You have contributed a worthy post to the forum indeed but with some reservations I wanna precisely say:


Is Geo TV working against the interests of Pakistan?

To respond the topic we have to define State interest which could be National integrity, development and progress.

You responded the query on basis of hypothesis built on incredible evidences with the
"Yes, ofcourse !" answer.

You claimed:

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1) its 50% shares are owned by the INDIAN-OWNED GIANT MITTAL GROUP. As the shareholding suggests, they are in a position to dictate the content or at least the program execution according to their interests.

2) Geo's anchors like Kamran Khan and Hamid Mir are notoriously on an active CIA payroll- and this isnt a new development- they have worked for CIA agenda ever since they were penning down articles in print. That they are such big assets to the concerned parties is evident merely from their official remuneration. Hamid Mir, Kamran Khan and Shahid Masood are being compensated at an average figure of 30-35 laks/mth.
What I wanted to share that there could be several other possibilities for the same answer "Yes, ofcourse !"as:

1) Immaturity

2) Commercialism

3) Outdated infrastructure of Policymaking institute

4) Corruptophillic environment

5) Personal vested interests

6) Lack of vision


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Its not about the media coming of age, I think. It would do so only if it were left independent and some covert motive not being pushed. Right now, most of our media programming is geared towards creating an aura of hopelessness and anxiety amongst the masses. Selectivity in news bits that show the darker picture much more frequently than the lighter one are portrayed so as to pull down people's hopes in this country. The day has already arrived where people are beginning to question the 'mere' existence of Pakistan if this is what they have to endure.

I wanna ask some adjoining questions as we are considering Western Media as standard:


Are there laws made and enforced to implement in Pakistan by the Governement (like western nation) who is prime responsible to define National interest:

that keep check on media’s foreign relations and its political affiliations ?

that news conflicting with the national interests is not published ?

that scenes of violence and injuries are avoided to broadcast ?


If not, response would be obvious as we could observe.

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But my question is, ever heard a prominent Frenchman question the existence of France before/during/after the revolution? Ever read an American curse the establishment of USA during their bitter North-South civil war? Ever seen an Iranian denying the sanctity of Iran as a state after the Islamic revolution? Everywhere people question the 'system' and talk about rectifying institutions. Never the nation-state itself.

Answer is "No" overall (even you may find few examples) and reasons are:


1) Preventive measures taken by the Governments

2) Establishing the clear definition of national interest

3) Sound checks on media

4) Law enforcement

5) Mature societies


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In Pakistan, this is what the media has done to our already ignorant masses. And this is what US and India wants. They want a dead-spirited nation who doesnt give them resistance when they come here. Instead they want a nation who thinks of them as their saviors- something they really couldnt achieve in Iraq and Afghanistan. They know Pakistan is a tougher nut to crack relatively and so they have 'planned' this psychological and cultural invasion years earlier than a territorial one. We as a people need to stop this talk-show bombardment that is playing tricks with our minds. Some are content in the knowledge that Indian channels arent openly available in Pakistan anymore, yet dont realize the "indianization' of our programs be it dramas or reporting style.
"What do US and India want ?" is another issue which could be related to the media role, even then it would be an external reason.

It s our internal systematic bug which has primary reasons inside us requiring the remedy.


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For instance, what the hell is "aman ki asha" perpetrated by Geo?
I really dont know about this program so can't comment here.

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Why should we befriend a bitter foe that amputated our country just 39 yeara ago? Peace is virtuous. But so is national integrity. And peace will only prevail as long as national integrity is preserved first. Now doesnt this "Indians and Pakistanis should live in peace" ring similar bells? That of USA constantly badgering us that India isnt a threat to our security? So that we can live on in a delusion while collectively they can barge in. People like ZA Bhutto who are admired for their vision have always maintained that "we will fight with India for a 1000 years and eat grass if we have to".
You are very right, Thanks for reminding me the quote of a great hero but:

Do you think really this approach influenced our minds just because of media or Geo TV ?

Do you think that media decides the foreign policies of the country in Pakistan ?

Were they not our leaders who started to act upon this US doctrine years before in shape of Benazir bhutto (Shaheed), Nawaz Sharif and General Pervez Musharraf ?

Were these things not part of our society to welcome the foreigners to rule our land ?


Media is a part of this society who had ever been excessively deprived by ruling elites.

Setting standards up and discussing bugs of media are quite encouraging signs but fixing responsibility on media only in this blame-game is not fair, in my very personal opinion.

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