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Originally Posted by desertrain View Post
Brother , it cant be denied that Muslims as well need a scientific approach towards all phenomenal activities that happens around but beleiving in crap which suggests that our ancestors once were animals ?
That is the point, don't believe the crap and prove its falsehood in a scientific way instead of taking leaps of faith. This is the need of time. Prophet (SAW) worked hard to explain faith to people of his times, it is our duty to work hard in scientific age to prove the truthfulness of Allah (SWT)'s revelation. Non-believing evolutionist are bringing evidence of evolution, they have strong arguments while we, the believers, have only theological rhetoric. Allah (SWT)'s revelation is final, true and ultimate and He has already given hints in His revelation, work them out and prove it scientifically. Evolution is observed to be continuously occurring at cellular and organic level, what scientists say is that over millions of years of time these continuous changes produce new species from existing species which then reproduce and spread and fossil record also support that notion; therefore they infer that we have evolved from some species of apes whose genetic make-up resemble ours. Christians who have long been resisting such theories have finally given into that, now they are filling the gaps in evolutionary theory with faith (for example they say ok even if we evolved from apes, still at some point we have first pair of humans and they were Adam and Eve and God put in them His soul , or that process of natural selection is a proof of divine guidance of evolution instead of survival of the fittest). Islam is the religion God has preferred over all other religions. There are many verses of Quran that invoke curiosity for exploration, but what are we doing. It is mentioned (or atleast hinted) in Quran that there was life on earth before first humans, isn't it far better to understand it scientifically and continue to struggle for true knowledge instead of accepting tafseers by medieval era theologians who knew nothing about science (at that time, they can't be blamed for that as they tried their level best to explain) and therefore described prior life to be jinns or some invisible creatures. Now I thoroughly believe that jinns are invisible creatures who dwell amongst us even to this day and they were created before us by Allah (SWT) (I have experience of that as well ), but how would you get scientific evidence of jinns dwelling as life forms on earth before humans?? Quran does not mention that Allah (SWT) wiped jinns out, or made them invisible to Adam and Eve. Would you say dinosaurs or other extinct species were jinns . For example, how would you explain following aayahs (scientifically, not theologically ):

إن الله اصطفى آدم ونوحا وآل إبراهيم وآل عمران على العالمين
Indeed, Allah chose Adam and Noah and the family of Abraham and the family of 'Imran over the worlds -

ذرية بعضها من بعض والله سميع عليم
Descendants, some of them from others. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.
(Al-Imran, 33, 34)

Allah (SWT) chose Noah, family of Abraham and the family of Imran over the worlds, that is understandable because they were born among human societies, but what worlds did Allah (SWT) choose Adam over?? World of Jinns??

إن يشأ يذهبكم أيها الناس ويأت بآخرين وكان الله على ذلك قديرا
If He wills, He can do away with you, O people, and bring others [in your place]. And ever is Allah competent to do that. (An-Nisa', 133)

Theologically it can be put in ways like Allah (SWT) can do anything, Allah (SWT) can bring back jinns to replace mankind, or Allah (SWT) can have one people enslaved by other people, ofcourse those are the only explanations that medieval era theologians could give, but today it can be scientifically explained through evolution.

ألم تر أن الله خلق السماوات والأرض بالحق إن يشأ يذهبكم ويأت بخلق جديد
Have you not seen that Allah created the heavens and the earth in truth? If He wills, He can do away with you and produce a new creation. (Ibrahim, 19)

Again there will be a medieval era theological description and there is a evolutionary possibility verifying that is possible .

قال ربنا الذي أعطى كل شيء خلقه ثم هدى
He said, "Our Lord is He who gave each thing its form and then guided [it]." (Taha, 50)

Again, evolution gives a scientific explanation of this.

أولم ير الذين كفروا أن السماوات والأرض كانتا رتقا ففتقناهما وجعلنا من الماء كل شيء حيّ أفلا يؤمنون
Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe? (Al-Anbya, 30)

This aayah even goes further and confirms the cosmological event of the Big Bang as well as confirming common creation of living things. There are so many signs in Quran that can be better explained with evolution.

نحن خلقناهم وشددنا أسرهم وإذا شئنا بدلنا أمثالهم تبديلا
We have created them and strengthened their forms, and when We will, We can change their likenesses with [complete] alteration. (Al-Insan, 28)

إن في خلق السماوات والأرض واختلاف الليل والنهار والفلك التي تجري في البحر بما ينفع الناس وما أنزل الله من السماء من ماء فأحيا به الأرض بعد موتها وبث فيها من كل دابة وتصريف الرياح والسحاب المسخر بين السماء والأرض لآيات لقوم يعقلون
Indeed, in the creation of the heavens and earth, and the alternation of the night and the day, and the [great] ships which sail through the sea with that which benefits people, and what Allah has sent down from the heavens of rain, giving life thereby to the earth after its lifelessness and dispersing therein every [kind of] moving creature, and [His] directing of the winds and the clouds controlled between the heaven and the earth are signs for a people who use reason. (Al-Baqarah, 164)

وما من دابة في الأرض ولا طائر يطير بجناحيه إلا أمم أمثالكم ما فرطنا في الكتاب من شيء ثم إلى ربهم يحشرون
And there is no creature on [or within] the earth or bird that flies with its wings except [that they are] communities like you. We have not neglected in the Register a thing. Then unto their Lord they will be gathered. (Al-An'am, 38)


Evolution explains all these scientifically .

إن شر الدواب عند الله الصم البكم الذين لا يعقلون
Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are the deaf and dumb who do not use reason. (Al-Anfal, 22)

إن شر الدواب عند الله الذين كفروا فهم لا يؤمنون
Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are those who have disbelieved, and they will not [ever] believe - (Al-Anfal, 55)

There even Allah (SWT) categorizes humans among animals or mere 'living creatures'

والله خلق كل دابة من ماء فمنهم من يمشي على بطنه ومنهم من يمشي على رجلين ومنهم من يمشي على أربع يخلق الله ما يشاء إن الله على كل شيء قدير
Allah has created every [living] creature from water. And of them are those that move on their bellies, and of them are those that walk on two legs, and of them are those that walk on four. Allah creates what He wills. Indeed, Allah is over all things (Al-Nur, 45)

Again better scientifically explained with evolution . And verses go on and on that can be better scientifically explained with the theory of evolution.

Quran is truly there for all the times to come. But there is a thorough need of understanding, which unfortunately we muslims are not pursuing. Most of us are stuck with medieval era analysis for our own political reasons and are not progressing. Many muslims do not even understand evolution, just read one line "Our ancestors were apes , nah" and begin to stigmatize it under the pretext of infidelity whereas evolution is not about converting from ape to human at all, that would be ignorance from which Allah (SWT) has forbidden us to fall into. Through evolution you can scientifically explain not just transformation of apes into humans but humans into apes as well (this is mentioned in the Quran). For me, theory of evolution strengthens belief in Allah (SWT)'s wisdom and ingenuity in His creation only if you understand it properly.
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