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Originally Posted by mhmmdkashif View Post
Ok here are a few examples. Monarchy still exists in Britain, Spain, and Japan.. France has semi-presidential system.. US has separated legislature and executive.. These are some examples of models of democracy. You do infact need a real check on power assumed through democratic process, not in metaphorical sense like 'people are sovereign' 'people's representatives can do anything they want' and slogans like that . It will never work that way.. Politicians are after all, politicians. They belong to variety of backgrounds, mostly capital holding ones , and ultimately seek what suits them. If you even post police and other state functionaries on their wishes then,,,, how will it ever work for common people??? For example yesterday two groups fought in our town and some people were seriously injured, both went to police and it was decided that a 'respected' local politician will decide the matter with his 'wisdom' (something commonly known as 'jirga'), now what about the law of country, where does that go in situations like these??? If you don't build an institution which can put a check on politicians then these military and other adventists (or opportunists, whatever you call them) will continue doing what they are doing because politicians will always be the same. Don't be an idealist sis, think from all the perspectives.


I am trying to make it more understandable, hope you are getting the point .
The examples you have given does not have any compatibility with the situation of Pakistan.
1- Monarchy in Great Britain is just symbolical. All the power rests with the Parliament. This system does not suit Pakistan. As you rightly siad Democracy in Pakistan is not that mature to be unaccountable.
2-France passed through 4 stages if I am not mistaken, to reach this system. this system also does not suit us. we do not share a single similarity with France.
3-In U.S.A the separation of Legislature and Executive is a good thing for themselves, that can not be applied to Pakistan as in Pakistan executive is accountable to legislature and judiciary and legislature is also answerable to judiciary whilst Judiciary is practically not answerable to anyone in the recent scenario. In USA Executive is not answerable to Legislature and Judiciary also show restraint for executive as they recently shown in Health Bill issue.
Pakistan has its own unique culture and realities. We need a system which is democratic and accountability must be balanced. Muslims are taught to be wise and exercise freedom. A system of Consultation should prevail in a muslim society which is Democracy in modern language.




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Originally Posted by TheWaqas View Post
kis ne kaha aap se kay majority of Pakistan faith in democracy ? chalain aik practical experiment karain apne city k sub se purronak area jahan har class k log shopping kerte hon wahan ja ker randomly 100 persons (male/female/young) se ye question karain

" Aap konsa system chahtay hain Pakistan mein Democracy ya Dictatorship "

Reality pata chal jaigi aap ko democracy ki Pakistan mein.
Have you conducted this type of Survey practically? If yes than show us the results plz , We will be obliged.
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