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Thumbs up CSS age limit 30.Puts your Hands Up. It is Time to Unite to take our Right.

AOA ...all repected Group Memebrs and CSs Aspirant of this forum and others who think that age limit should be increased comment below and decide a day to protest on it . it is matter of our life, career, passion and struggle. if we really take it seriously we can achieve our target. if all other major counties do have age more than 28 years for competetive exam then why we are not given this right ... it is unfair ... and we have to wake up ...do not let go your dreams ...put sincere efforts .... we have to be united because only that way we can achive our goal...comment below ...
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The Honorable Prime Minister
Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif Sb.
Islamic Republic of Pakistan
Islamabad.

SUBJECT: APPEAL FOR REVIVAL OF UPPER AGE LIMIT OF CSS EXAMINATION.
Honorable Sir,
With due reverence, I intend to procure your good attention on the above cited subject.
The coup of 1999 not only demolished the democratic structure of the country but also shattered the dreams of thousands of aspirants of Civil Service of Pakistan who intend to serve the country by taking CSS examination. The upper age limit for taking CSS examination prior of CSS-2001 was 30 years for general candidates, 33 years for the candidates belonging to backward areas and 35 years for those having 02 years continuous government service. But unfortunately, former military ruler General(R) Pervez Musharaf through an ordinance abruptly lowered the upper age limit to 28 years for general candidates and 30 years for backward areas candidates including government servants having minimum 02 years continuous service in the year 2000, which has been in force since CSS-2001 till now. The lowering of age had hit hard those belonging to the lower middle and middle class segments of society. The severe economic hardships of candidates belonging to this segment of society after graduation/post graduation compels them to have an honorable earnings as their top priority in order to sustain their families and it becomes very difficult for them to spare time and energies to take part in the competitive examination.
The transition from dictatorship to democratic rule in 2008 provided a sigh of relief to the hardworking and talented youth but to their dismay the former PM Syed Yousaf Raza Gilani himself twice rejected the summaries for increasing the age limit of CSS examination. However, PPP government on the recommendation of Senate Standing Committee only granted five years age relaxation for recruitment to all the posts except through CSS examination which is a clear negation of Article 25 of the constitution of our country. Since then, the aspirants of Civil Service of Pakistan have been continuously demanding through print media and in the form of appeals to the former PM Syed Yousaf Raza Gilani to repeal the dictator’s irrational decision but of no avail.
The worthy Prime Minister, it is pertinent to mention here that the age limit for taking similar examinations in the South Asian countries including India and Bangladesh is 30-35 years. The United Nations Competitive Examination also grants an opportunity to the aspirants all over the world up to 32 years of age and even among the developed countries such as USA there is no such bar of age and any one can be a part of Civil Services on the basis of his/her academic credentials.
There are also some other reasons which demand to increase css age. These are as follows;
1- Most of our population is rural base and they start their school going much later than urban areas and therefore they complete their graduation later.

2- Because they are are living in rural areas therefore they have not much facilities which could help them to get higher education at early age.

3- Most of our population is poor and does not afford their expenses and they try to find their job first and then think about preparation of competitive exams like css. Because they can not buy expensive books or helping materials and they start their preparation in later part of there life. Therefore they should give a chance.

4- Most people of rural ares are not aware of these type of exams in early age and they start study much later.

5- There are also some other problems in our country like transportation,load shedding etc.in remote areas which are not suitable for students and need some time to prepare..

6- Age should also be increased for govt.employees at least up to 4 years because generally they start their preparation after getting a job.

7- In other competitive exams like PMS there is also age relaxation up to 35 years for govt.employees and also in other departments which are under federal govt.

8. For civil judges there is also a relaxation in age for advocates therefore it should be granted for css too.

9. If a person is born on 30th of december and it is only 1 day over and he is rejected. This is not fair. At least last december should be consider for cut date. For example,for CSS 2017 cut date should be 31 december 2015. Because application starts in october and cut date should be last december.

10. Most candidates who applied for css 2016 but not appeared with the hope that age will be increased for next time and they decided to avail next time. Therefore,one chance should be given to them.
11. The Federal Public Service Commission Director (Research) in 2009 informed the passing graduates at the University of Agriculture Faisalabad that the FPSC has recommended to the government to grant 05 years age relaxation for CSS examination but this policy would be effective from CE-2011 but the unfortunately policy never materialized.
At last, I would humbly request to your good self to pay a patience look into legitimate demand of the talented and hard working youth of the middle class families by reviving the age limit of 30-35 years as it used to be prior of CE-2001. The government has to approve CE-2017 age relaxation policy and I am optimistic it will certainly provide a relief to all the aspirants of middle class families so that the maximum number of aspirants can take CSS examination and enjoy the fruits of democracy.
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28 years are a lot of time. If somebody is not able to qualify in 28 then he doesn't deserve to carry on for next 2 years.

He should just leave the space for upcoming youngsters.

Also, a serving govt. employe is allowed to take css upto 30 years. So, If a person is not worthy of getting employed in any govt. jobs/at any scale then who come he has the right to ask for extra 2 years to be able to sit in Pakistan premium service exam.....!!!!!
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28 years are a lot of time. If somebody is not able to qualify in 28 then he doesn't deserve to carry on for next 2 years.

He should just leave the space for upcoming youngsters.

Also, a serving govt. employe is allowed to take css upto 30 years. So, If a person is not worthy of getting employed in any govt. jobs/at any scale then who come he has the right to ask for extra 2 years to be able to sit in Pakistan premium service exam.....!!!!!
28 can be insufficient for someone who

1) Goes through A-level instead of Intermediate, and goes on to get a PhD or MPhil
2) Someone who completes his 4 years bachelors (age: 22), 2 years work experience (age: 24 by this time) and then a masters such as MBA (age: 26).

In other words, even if back to back attempts are given, a select few cannot get all 3 attempts of CSS - unless the age limit is pushed to 30 years.

I personally did not agree with 16 years of education as a compulsion. Similarly I do not agree with 28 years of age being the limit to attempt CSS.

I am all for the inclusion of the most number of candidates for the exam. There should simply be a screening test before-hand to make the process smoother and faster.

I'm sure those who are attempting the CE will agree to my above points as they are only but fair for everyone involved.
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A majority has to start working and has to find a job before any further studies as they have to support their families. By the time they have earned alittle and decide to do css they are already 26 or 27. They are still young and eligible. But they hardly get a chance or 2 to pursue their dreams. This is the hard working lot who should be given the right to avail all three opportunities to appear in css. For which it is essential to increase age to atleast 30.
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28 can be insufficient for someone who

1) Goes through A-level instead of Intermediate, and goes on to get a PhD or MPhil
2) Someone who completes his 4 years bachelors (age: 22), 2 years work experience (age: 24 by this time) and then a masters such as MBA (age: 26).

In other words, even if back to back attempts are given, a select few cannot get all 3 attempts of CSS - unless the age limit is pushed to 30 years.

I personally did not agree with 16 years of education as a compulsion. Similarly I do not agree with 28 years of age being the limit to attempt CSS.

I am all for the inclusion of the most number of candidates for the exam. There should simply be a screening test before-hand to make the process smoother and faster.

I'm sure those who are attempting the CE will agree to my above points as they are only but fair for everyone involved.
You have mentioned M.Phil and medical degree. .... and that's what policy makers want...... they want their specialist to pursue thier respective field...!!!

Policy makers are thier to plan for the nation as a whole , and by doing that, there may be some individual victims. BUT THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. ..!!!!
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You have mentioned M.Phil and medical degree. .... and that's what policy makers want...... they want their specialist to pursue thier respective field...!!!

Policy makers are thier to plan for the nation as a whole , and by doing that, there may be some individual victims. BUT THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. ..!!!!
Firstly, it's their own free choice whatever they want to pursue. Some people can have a change of heart, while others can be forced into their fields which they later on do not wish to pursue.

For example, I have done my bachelors in business - policy makers should ENCOURAGE me to pursue a life in my field, however they should not STOP me from pursuing what i wish to.

Secondly, there are a dozen hundred more categories of people who simply go through a 4 years bachelors followed by 2 years working experience (requirement for most business masters degrees) and a 2 year masters; and therefore cannot attempt CSS 3 times.

My point being, age limit should be 30. Freedom of choice and a chance for worthy candidates to have ample room to give 3 attempts literally does not harm anyone.
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Very reasonable points raised by Khan sb.
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Firstly, it's their own free choice whatever they want to pursue. Some people can have a change of heart, while others can be forced into their fields which they later on do not wish to pursue.

For example, I have done my bachelors in business - policy makers should ENCOURAGE me to pursue a life in my field, however they should not STOP me from pursuing what i wish to.

Secondly, there are a dozen hundred more categories of people who simply go through a 4 years bachelors followed by 2 years working experience (requirement for most business masters degrees) and a 2 year masters; and therefore cannot attempt CSS 3 times.

My point being, age limit should be 30. Freedom of choice and a chance for worthy candidates to have ample room to give 3 attempts literally does not harm anyone.

Policy makers are not stopping you at all to have a go at css despite your business degree. ..... by the way how long it takes to have a business degree. ........ 25??? 27??? Or 24????? Answer is not at all dear.

Policy makers want thier experienced CSPs to serve and hold higher post for a longer time instead of a scenario that a lot of competent officers get promoted to 22 scale shortly followed by thier retirement. ..

Every one has his opinion and In my opinion 28 years of age is enough for anybody to successfully attempting CE.
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Policy makers are not stopping you at all to have a go at css despite your business degree. ..... by the way how long it takes to have a business degree. ........ 25??? 27??? Or 24????? Answer is not at all dear.

Policy makers want thier experienced CSPs to serve and hold higher post for a longer time instead of a scenario that a lot of competent officers get promoted to 22 scale shortly followed by thier retirement. ..

Every one has his opinion and In my opinion 28 years of age is enough for anybody to successfully attempting CE.
As I said before, if you're from an A-levels background and want an MBA from Lums or IBA or any other business school (international or local) requiring 2 years work experience after bachelors, you will be 26 by the time you're done with it - or 27 if you're unlucky and miss even one semester. So policy makers are in fact 'stopping' me from availing all 3 of my attempts, whereas they should be providing juicy incentives to specialists instead if they wish for them to carry on with their specializations instead.

I agree with this single point that CSPs will probably not be able to hold a grade 22 position if they are join CSS at the age of 30. But the counter-argument, and a very realistic one at that, is that the age of retirement should be pushed up to 65 as well - life expectancy is higher than it was many years ago and there are many competent and viable officers who are beyond the age of 60 and can no longer serve as an officer simply because of an out-dated rule that needs to be looked at.

Our opinions differ and that's alright. My ideas are in line with the modern and changing world of today along with the what's ahead in a hopefully 'more' democratic Pakistan, 30-40 years from now.
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Why some of the members are against the age extension? It should provide benefit for those who didn't appeared due to some reasons. For instance, if one says that 28 yrs is more than enough without even knowing that many candidates skip their masters due to appearing in CSS and when they are unable to qualify the CSS and for about 4-5 year in preparing, waiting for result they are still bachelor. I think a person who is Masters level or more is much suitable for the civil services due to maturity. Don't be selfish, it can accommodate the vulnerable one. If one has appeared thrice and now going against just because he/she doesn't avail this opportunity should consider others. One thing to add, the CSS have revised the syllabus which is tougher than before and you need well time to cover the syllabus. So be optimistic.
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