[QUOTE=fromQAU;332083]this govt is following a policy of reconciliation and every stake holder plus the establishment is taken on board. they cannot take action against the MQM. the only way out towards the establishment of peace is to reconcile and negotiate with them and bring peace to the city in the larger interest of peace.[/QUOTE]

Look,can I tell you something..we want peace in Karachi as much as u do..Karachi is a part of our country..its as much ours as it is yours..but let me tell you something..Just because a Karachi-based political-cum-ethnic party threatens to destory the peace of ONE of the cities of Pakistan,all the country cannot be held hostage..Why does all of Pakistan have to agree to and suffer at the hands of attrocious policies and system that MQM want..because they will start a killing spree in karachi..Ok we love karachi,but why do all of pakistan have to pay to and succumb to MQM's blackmailings when they destroy the peace of one of the many cities in Pakistan..A technical knockout inflicted on ur point of view..
Secondly,we want a few tough steps taken so that peace in Karachi is restored once and for all,and so that people of karachi and Pakistan do not have to suffer at the hand of the whims of a rough band of bloodsuckers called the MQM..I am sorry,but ALL of us Pakistanis are suffering because you people have been naive and selfish enough to vote for that *&$@*^* party time and again..That is why we want it exterminated alongwith its workers(who are all target killers,mobile snatchers and bullies etc),because I do not think that the karachi'ites are going to vote them out in next general elections as well....and sir,94/95 me bhi goli banda marti thi..Ub bhi marti hey..Ub bhi wo MQM k badmashon ki khopri me ghussey ki tw une mare gi hi..ager karachi me ksi ne goli chalaani hi he na,tw let it be police,army and rangers..ager roz 20 lashein girni hi hain na,tw let 15 out of them be of MQM workers and bullies rather than all of them belonging to innocent karachi'ites..Plus just tell me,us mustafa kamal k zamane me karachi ka crime rate low tha?Kidnappings or mobile snatchings etc tb nahy hoti thi..Karachi k awaam ko tb bhi un k quaideen hi loot'tey thay ya specially lahore or larkana k log aa k loot'tay thay??
I would say that u people are just talking about stop gap measures..Mujhe ek joke yad agaya..Ek maan appne betey se poochti he k ye sheesha kis ne tora..Tw wo kehta he bhai ne..she asks kaise..he replies :'Me ne bhai ko patthar mara tw wo samne se hatt gya or wo patthar sheeshe ko ja lga'..I think this is a perfect analogy to what MQM is doing in karachi..Zulfiqar Mirza ko kaho byaan wapis le,commissionerate system ko wapis lao vrna Karachi k log murte rhege..janab mar kon rha he??Hum!!wah ji wah..and saddest thing of all k people are supporting their stance..hur saal bad 200 lashein girne se behtr he k ek bar 400 lashein gir jayen or agley tamam salon k liye aman qaim hojayey..Agay u can do the maths urself k jaani nuksaan kis option me ziada hey..
@Devolution Geek:
Hmari qom ka processor bht hi slow he..Inhey LG system k samraat ubi tk samjh nahy asake..mazid 10 sal loot khasoot hogi,ye nazim jub ink gharon tk puhunch jayen ge badmashi kurte huy tbhi ye samjhain ge k haaaan commissionerate system is se kahin betha tha..Atleast DC ki uttni political rivalries nahy hoti..Atleast wo thaney kutchehry ki gandi suyasat ka part nahy banta..obvious favouritism ka shikaar nahy hota..There are figures which tell k financial corruption has increased manifolds since the LG system had come into place..People cant comprehend that the best model of governance and the one that has shown the best performance in Pakistan and somehow kept this country going is the Commissionerate system..Not these angootha chaap nazims..

[QUOTE]hur saal bad 200 lashein girne se behtr he k ek bar 400 lashein gir jayen or agley tamam salon k liye aman qaim hojayey..Agay u can do the maths urself k jaani nuksaan kis option me ziada hey..[/QUOTE]


be practical bro. think in terms of the resources and capability of the govt. its not as easy as u hv been proposing. under such circumstances of inability to fight the perpetrators and bring them to justice, the only option left with the govt is to negotiate a peace deal with them.

u hv misinterpreted my writing and misconstrued it as support to MQM.

Suman u will find black sheeps and mir jaffer in every community, so the theory according to the sociologists is also applied to sindhis. but u know u will find only 0.00001% sindhis who might have soft corner for this terrorist group. other wise we sindhis in spite of being divided in caste or tribal system but in the case of mqm are united and have hard corner for mqm. not only we sindhis but every one from karachi to khyber have hard corner for mqm. so far the the case of pir mazhar and qaim ali shah is concerned it is their political compulsion to put mqm in power. and one important thing to know is that mqm is also supported by america, so there may be american pressure on ppp government to give share of power to mqm.

[QUOTE=Ali Mubashir;332274]Suman u will find black sheeps and mir jaffer in every community, so the theory according to the sociologists is also applied to sindhis. but u know u will find only 0.00001% sindhis who might have soft corner for this terrorist group. other wise we sindhis in spite of being divided in caste or tribal system but in the case of mqm are united and have hard corner for mqm. not only we sindhis but every one from karachi to khyber have hard corner for mqm. so far the the case of pir mazhar and qaim ali shah is concerned it is their political compulsion to put mqm in power. and one important thing to know is that mqm is also supported by america, so there may be american pressure on ppp government to give share of power to mqm.[/QUOTE]

Is bar mohajirs and sindhis donon ko Sindh k political scene se un logon ko uttha k bahir phaink daina chahiye jo MQM se belong kurte hain,ya un k isharon pe naachtey hain..Use ur vote people..

[QUOTE=hamza_salick86;332355]Is bar mohajirs and sindhis donon ko Sindh k political scene se un logon ko uttha k bahir phaink daina chahiye jo MQM se belong kurte hain,ya un k isharon pe naachtey hain..Use ur vote people..[/QUOTE]

you are right k sindhi oar muhajjir donon ko MQM se belong karne waloan ko utha kar bahir phenkna hoga.our vote will be usefull in this case if there are free and fair elections which i don't see possible here because neither ppp nor MQM will allow free elections.

@ Ali Mubashir

you are right that black sheeps are everywhere also in sindhi community.but you are wrong that 0.00001% sindhi people might have soft corner for this terrorist group because i have seen many sindhi people who follow mqm blindly.and last if we are united against mqm then why this unity is not showing any positive result?? why sindh is suffering because of this group??even nationalist parties are divided .the fact is that we give first preference to our own interests then national interests.

[QUOTE=fromQAU;332222]be practical bro. think in terms of the resources and capability of the govt. its not as easy as u hv been proposing. under such circumstances of inability to fight the perpetrators and bring them to justice, the only option left with the govt is to negotiate a peace deal with them.

u hv misinterpreted my writing and misconstrued it as support to MQM.[/QUOTE]

I haven't misconstrued u as a supporter of MQM..I just see someone in u who is being held hostage by this rouge party..Who concurs to all their demands coz of their fear..

[QUOTE]I haven't misconstrued u as a supporter of MQM..I just see someone in u who is being held hostage by this rouge party..Who concurs to all their demands coz of their fear..[/QUOTE]
hahahahahahahahahah.....Very strange!!!!!! it means residents of karachi cannot criticize MQM even on this forum?????????

MQM has started using OPEN terrorist tactics to pressurize govt. to accept their demands. Kal Karachi mein approx. 15 logon ko maar diya including their own workers aur kehte hain yeh MQM(Haqeeqi) Group ne kill kiye hain under the assistance of PPP ministers. [B]AIK NAYA DRAMA, Ab ANP ko chor ker MQM (Haqeeqi) ko involve ker rahe hain. [/B]

Logon ke merne ka gham to aik taraf, Mr. Raza Haroon(Opposition Leader) has said on media yesterday that they will make alliance with the party that agrees to abolish Commissionerate System before next election and talks are going on with Muslim League(Functional)on this issue. Pressurizing PPP through killing people and talking to different parties. WHAT A SHAME KILLING POOR INNOCENT PEOPLE FOR THEIR OWN DIRTY MOTIVES

[QUOTE=Babakhan;332905]MQM has started using OPEN terrorist tactics to pressurize govt. to accept their demands. Kal Karachi mein approx. 15 logon ko maar diya including their own workers aur kehte hain yeh MQM(Haqeeqi) Group ne kill kiye hain under the assistance of PPP ministers. [B]AIK NAYA DRAMA, Ab ANP ko chor ker MQM (Haqeeqi) ko involve ker rahe hain. [/B]

Logon ke merne ka gham to aik taraf, Mr. Raza Haroon(Opposition Leader) has categorically said yesterday on media that they will make alliance with the party that agrees to abolish Commissionerate System before next election and talk are going on with Muslim League(Functional). WHAT A SHAME KILLING POOR INNOCENT PEOPLE FOR THEIR OWN DIRTY MOTIVES[/QUOTE]

Ub hmein ese logon k peyron me girna pare ga,in k hathon blackmail hona pre ga appne mulk k sub se barey shehr k aman k liye??????I ask all of u..

saam to all participants:
i am reading your comments from the first day. i am agreed with some and not with some.
i tell you that sindhi men ek kahawat he jo men yrdu men translate kar ke batata hon that is : agar chor ko moonh pe cor kaha jae to wo chirega.
so herec is the same condition Zulfikar mirza has dne the work of mirror, you know this and that was the reality told by dr sahib. as far as the problem of peace in karachi, it seems impossible without the armed operation. andc it is the reality that army is not agreed with zardari sahb on this point. if we wath the pakistan there is not the writ of govt all over the country in any part in any department. every one knows the reality of MQM and you must know that from where the weapons are transfered to karachi. now we have to wait and see that what is the next step of govt, in my idea in coming future govt will succeed to find the solution .