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I am applying for Sindh Provincial civil service (to be held in November 2013) and also for 2014 CSS.

Now I want to ask that, what is difference between the Assistant commissioner of Sindh government and the equivalent DDO (R) of DMG/PAS.

If I am selected as A.C in Sindh PCS, so does that mean I will only have to serve in Sindh province and would not be deputed to other provinces?

Which is better provincial civil services or federal? It's first time that I have come to know about Sindh Provincial civil services, as Sindh govt has announced it after a long time.

Please guide me in this regard.
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Now , i donot know exactly . But , after PAS , promotions are faster as compared to PCS . And PCS officer remains in Punjab . PCS is too considered to be a better and good option as a person will be serving in Punjab and will have not to go to other provinces . But , there was a problem of promotion . This promotion problem may be solved as PCS association is working on it . No doubt PAS is far much better in a way that it is considered to be a number one department after CSS . So , best of luck .
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[QUOTE=Jetpack2;627667]I am applying for Sindh Provincial civil service (to be held in November 2013) and also for 2014 CSS.

[QUOTE] Now I want to ask that, what is difference between the Assistant commissioner of Sindh government and the equivalent DDO (R) of DMG/PAS.[QUOTE]

DDO (R) posts have been replaced with Assistant Commissioners. In Sindh and balochistan, Assistant Commissioners are recruited through PCS exams, whereas in Punjab section PMS officers are recruited through PMS exams who serve initially in secretariat as SOs for two years and then posted as ACs.
In KPK PMS officers, after recruitment, are either posted as SOs or Additional Assistant Commissioners. They are elevated to the post of ACs after a certain period of service.

[QUOTE]If I am selected as A.C in Sindh PCS, so does that mean I will only have to serve in Sindh province and would not be deputed to other provinces?
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If you are selected as AC in sind via PCS exams, you will have to serve for the entire period of your service, baring the exception of Section 10 for deputation purposes, in Sind.

Which is better provincial civil services or federal? It's first time that I have come to know about Sindh Provincial civil services, as Sindh govt has announced it after a long time.

Federal services have a better horizontal and vertical mobility as compared to provincial services.

Please guide me in this regard.
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1. DDO (R) posts have been replaced with Assistant Commissioners. In Sindh and Baluchistan, Assistant Commissioners are recruited through PCS exams, whereas in Punjab section PMS officers are recruited through PMS exams who serve initially in secretariat as SOs for two years and then posted as ACs. In KPK PMS officers, after recruitment, are either posted as SOs or Additional Assistant Commissioners. They are elevated to the post of ACs after a certain period of service.

2. If you are selected as AC in sind via PCS exams, you will have to serve for the entire period of your service, baring the exception of Section 10 for deputation purposes, in Sind.

3.Federal services have a better horizontal and vertical mobility as compared to provincial services.
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1. DDO (R) posts have been replaced with Assistant Commissioners. In Sindh and Baluchistan, Assistant Commissioners are recruited through PCS exams, whereas in Punjab section PMS officers are recruited through PMS exams who serve initially in secretariat as SOs for two years and then posted as ACs. In KPK PMS officers, after recruitment, are either posted as SOs or Additional Assistant Commissioners. They are elevated to the post of ACs after a certain period of service.

2. If you are selected as AC in sind via PCS exams, you will have to serve for the entire period of your service, baring the exception of Section 10 for deputation purposes, in Sind.

3.Federal services have a better horizontal and vertical mobility as compared to provincial services.
how do you compare the following bundle of CSS groups with PMS PUNJAB.
1. OMG
2. information
3. railways
4. postal
5. mlcg
6. ctg
THE Five css groups-- pas, psp,fsp,customs, and paas-- are definitely better than PMS.With the sole exception of customs, these groups offer extensive horizontal mobility and rapid vertical mobility. Customs service is known for its excellent facilities.
I have heard that in the IRS , one does not enjoy facilities such as a spacious office, vehicle and official residence, untill one gets into grade 19. and one retires in grade 21 if one is an irs officer.
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how do you compare the following bundle of CSS groups with PMS PUNJAB.
1. OMG
2. information
3. railways
4. postal
5. mlcg
6. ctg
THE Five css groups-- pas, psp,fsp,customs, and paas-- are definitely better than PMS.With the sole exception of customs, these groups offer extensive horizontal mobility and rapid vertical mobility. Customs service is known for its excellent facilities.
I have heard that in the IRS , one does not enjoy facilities such as a spacious office, vehicle and official residence, untill one gets into grade 19. and one retires in grade 21 if one is an irs officer.
please comment.
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1. We have this tendency of comparing group with respect to the facilities offered in BPS 17. I believe we have better to see the long term prospects. BPS 22 is kind of a selection grade and its not necessary that all PAS/PSP/OMG officers make it to BPS 22. Facilities come with promotion and in BPS 18, nearly all the groups are facilitated.

2. It depends exclusively upon the choice of the candidates to make a trade off between PMS and the CSS occupational groups that you have mentioned.
Some people leave PMS to join Information group, others have preferred PMS over PAAS. I cannot quote examples as it may not be taken in good spirit owing to privacy. Therefore, take into account all the factors relevant to you before making any decision. Besides, these decisions are taken when allocation lists are announced and at that time sufficient information becomes available to one due to frequent interactions with the relevant circles. So its quite premature to compare groups before taking the exams.

3. Vehicle and residences are available when an officer is posted away from the major cities. In large cities, there is a great competition over resources e.g in Islamabad, housing is a major issue for all groups and grades. So even in IRS, vehicles and housing is available on smaller duty stations/field postings. Moreover, IRS and PAAS are financial services and given the circumstances, they are going to gain more power and authority due to their specialization.

4. MLCG is often ignored in preference list and people come to know about the worth of this group at later stages. It has a great life style albeit rather slow promotions. So please keep in mind this group as well.
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Assalam o alaikum.

1. We have this tendency of comparing group with respect to the facilities offered in BPS 17. I believe we have better to see the long term prospects. BPS 22 is kind of a selection grade and its not necessary that all PAS/PSP/OMG officers make it to BPS 22. Facilities come with promotion and in BPS 18, nearly all the groups are facilitated.

2. It depends exclusively upon the choice of the candidates to make a trade off between PMS and the CSS occupational groups that you have mentioned.
Some people leave PMS to join Information group, others have preferred PMS over PAAS. I cannot quote examples as it may not be taken in good spirit owing to privacy. Therefore, take into account all the factors relevant to you before making any decision. Besides, these decisions are taken when allocation lists are announced and at that time sufficient information becomes available to one due to frequent interactions with the relevant circles. So its quite premature to compare groups before taking the exams.

3. Vehicle and residences are available when an officer is posted away from the major cities. In large cities, there is a great competition over resources e.g in Islamabad, housing is a major issue for all groups and grades. So even in IRS, vehicles and housing is available on smaller duty stations/field postings. Moreover, IRS and PAAS are financial services and given the circumstances, they are going to gain more power and authority due to their specialization.

4. MLCG is often ignored in preference list and people come to know about the worth of this group at later stages. It has a great life style albeit rather slow promotions. So please keep in mind this group as well.
Thanks for the reply.
One of my relatives took the pms examination in 2012. He is an engineer. but his heart is not in an engineering career. he always wanted to be a public administrator. luckily, he got allocated to pms as per pms 2012 result without much preparation.
A few days ago, i met him. he told me that he was in a quandary; he was dithering over whether to join pms or not. THE PMS training is slated to commence on august 26. HIs problem is that he wants to take the css 2014 examination; he has appeared in 2013 as well. he is young(22).
what would you suggest? should he forgo the pms and take the css examination 2014 or should he wait and avail his second attempt in 2015 if he does not get allocated to the desired css group as per css 2013 result.?
You might suggest undertaking the training and preparing for the 2014 exam at the same time. He, however, thinks that he can not juggle the two together.
your reply will be most appreciated.
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He can manage to qualify css with job but his merit no. can be compromised. Of what avail an attempt is, if one doesn't fall in a group of ones choice. Therefore, I will suggest that he should carry on with his PMS training and take 2015 CE.
After all, he is just 22.
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one should always prefer Federal services over provincial. i have seen several people who opted for provincial services and they rue their decisions now.
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