Asslamualaikum,
consider the sentence:
" He is a boy".
" He has a pen".
Are these the sentences of present indefinite tense? if yes, then where are the helping verbs of the present indefinite tense? like "do, does"?//
We say that in present indefinite the helping verbs are do and does..
But in the above sentences we have not used verbs rather is, has.
Now these sentences; They are students? Are is the helping verb of present continous tense but we have used it here?
Is there any existance of Present simple tense?
If yes then what is the difference b/w "present simple and present indefinite tense"?
If not then why don't we say that in present indefinite only helping verbs are do,does,. Then is are am has have must also be the helping verbs of the same tense?
Do reply..........

Tenses are mainly formed to guide us way to learn english. Else, It`s taught in other convenient methods in native countries. You can call above structures as Present simple in our terms. Every english author use own techniques for teaching the grammar.

As I was taught that english has 4 tenses only (Present,Past,Future & Continues) and we built approach towards them. If you read the Practical Grammar of A.J Thomson, You will come to the solution.

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Asslamualaikum,
First of all thanks alot for ur reply to my this thread. But i have gone through many books written by English people, where i have found both of the names as "present indefinite and present simple".
Some of them have said that if "is, am and are" are uesd it indicates towards present continous tense so using these helping verbs is not correct in present indefinite or simple..
Though it is a controversy, but from my own point of view we should say that, if "is,am and are" are used in present we must call them as "PRESENT FORM OF VERB" rather than present indefinite of present simple..
Do reply, all members are requested..
regards

It`s my own pleasure. I`m agree with you. If you pay heed to the meaning of respective tenses, you come to know that structures are built by their own.

So far as it is concerned with Present Simple, It`s crystal clear that It`s supporting the noun. It doesn`t contain any verb. Look at the expression, "Salman is a boy". The sub "Salman" is being furtherly explained by the clause. So It may be used as adjective. Another sentence can be built in this regard by using other helping verbs. Like: "He has a nice car". This sentence is implying the same thing. Therefore, A simple sentence may contain any helping verb apposite to the situation.

Let`s come to the Present Indefinate. The helping verbs of this tense "do" & "does" imply the occurence of an event and they are supported by verb. Moreover, they are used in negative and questioning form. Similarly, Present continues tense refers to continous action. "is", "am" & "are" are supported by verb -ing form.

If you need further assistance, Don`t falter to query them.

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Asslamualaikum,
I think i have gone mad regarding the present indefinite and present simple, every one has his own comments regarding the same, i explained it before some ingenious people, i could not believe in my eyes, i was telling them that we are having 12 Tenses, when i explained. A question was arisen that if we are having Present simple then we obviously will be having past simple and future simple?!!!
I m in search of the same dielema.
I want to say bundle of thanks to you that only you have participated in solving my this problem.
regards.

Present indefinite

Kinds of present tense

Dear brother,

I hope it will give you some idea about present indefinite

Formula: Subject + 1st of the verb (es, s, ies) + object


Present tense is used in three places

With action

For Example: he plays football

With property

For Example: I have a pen
She has a pen

With status

For Example: He is a teacher

Asslam o Alaikum to everyOne

Dear Friend I put forward my view on this topic, it may be subjected to alterations.!!!

Present Simple or present Indefinite is used to describe certian actions that are taking place & it states the possessions. Moreover, it is used to describe those situations or actions that are currently happening & will continue to happen indefinitly.

Present Simple: I drive a car, I have a pen.

In above example " I drive a car", it is informed that "I" know driving a car a and I will drive it in the future as well.

Regarding Verb:

As we know that without a verb, no sentence can be called a sentence. Present Indefinite also contains a verb.

Subject + Verb + Object

Ex: I have a pen.

In above example "HAVE" is acting as a main verb & not helping verb. It notifies that I possess something. Its not helping verb over here. you may also check dictionary, a good one, for seeking roles that these helping verbs play. The same is true for "is, am, are".

Like: He is boy.
The sentence is present simple. "IS" main verb.

I hope that you have got my point.

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I thank all of you for your kind replies.

Dear brothers it is crystal clear that a sentence is incomplete without verb,

ex: He has a pen.

In this sentence "has" is main verb, because in abscence of main verb, helping
verb becomes the main verb.

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