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Eager Monday, February 21, 2011 02:14 PM

Can anyone correct these sentences?
 
1. You ought to have regarded him your benefactor.
2. He has visited as many historical places as one has or can visit.
3. The hostel provides lodging and boarding to students.
4. My cousin-brother will come to meet me.
5. One must boast of his great qualities.
6. He is one of those who always succeed.
7. The black vermin is an odious creature.
8. What to speak of meat, even vegetables were not allowed there.
9. The criminal was sent to the gaol.
10. The firm was willing to forgo its usual commission.
11. This is the historical spot where he was shot dead.
12. I don't remember him giving me a present.
13. Passing by the damaged house, a brick fel on my shoulder.
14. The idea of me flying is too silly to even contemplate.

these sentences have been taken from previous papers of English Precis and composition. Almost all of them seems correct to me. Can you find out the mistakes?? plz correct them if you can. And if they are correct, how the solve them as they might come in exam??
plz answer
Regards

striver Monday, February 21, 2011 02:43 PM

All of them look OK to me. However, if I HAD TO make some changes, I'd make the following. Isnt it true that sometimes they put the correct sentence in there? These might actually be the correct ones.

. You ought to have regarded him [B][COLOR="blue"]as [/COLOR][/B]your benefactor.
2. He has visited as many historical places as one has or can visit.
3. The hostel provides lodging and boarding to students.
4. My cousin-brother will come to meet me.
5. One must boast of his great qualities.
6. He is [B][COLOR="blue"]among[/COLOR][/B] those who always succeed.
7. The black vermin is an odious creature.
8. [B][COLOR="blue"]Let alone[/COLOR][/B] meat, even vegetables were not allowed there.
9. The criminal was [B][COLOR="blue"]sentenced[/COLOR][/B] to the gaol.
10. The firm was willing to forgo its usual commission.
11. This is the historical spot where he was shot dead.
12. I don't remember him giving me a present.
13. [B][COLOR="blue"]While passing[/COLOR][/B] the damaged house, a brick fell on my shoulder.
14. The idea of me flying is too silly to even contemplate

Shahid Shakoor Monday, February 21, 2011 02:47 PM

2-He has visitied as many historical places as one can visit
7. The black vermin is an odious species

striver Monday, February 21, 2011 02:50 PM

2-He has visitied as many historical places as [B]no-one[/B] has or can visit

AHH! I missed that!

Farrah Zafar Monday, February 21, 2011 02:53 PM

One [B]may[/B] boast of his great qualities

My cousin[B](-brother) [/B]will come to meet[B](see)[/B] me.

xaara~hussain Monday, February 21, 2011 05:00 PM

did I make corrections right?
 
Passing through ten different cities, Karachi is the most active [B](one)[/B].

He was laid up for six weeks with two broken ribs. [B]([/B][B]He was laid up with two broken ribs for six weeks.)[/B]

Someone showed [B](Introduced)[/B] the visitors in the room.

Until you remain idle you will make no [B](no should be omitted)[/B] progress.

It is very wrong to be devoted ([B]tended[/B],[I]since devotion is 'positive'[/I]) to lying and cheating.

He told me that he is waiting for me since a long time. [B](He told me that he had been waiting for me for a long time.)[/B]

The house stood up [B](stood out)[/B] in the dull street because of its red door.

He brought the articles to the market which he wanted to sell. [B](He brought the articles which he wanted to sell to the market.)[/B]

Shahid Shakoor Monday, February 21, 2011 05:35 PM

mine corrections is as follows
 
[QUOTE=xaara~hussain;268954]Passing through ten different cities, Karachi is the most active [B](one)[/B].

He was laid up for six weeks with two broken ribs. [B]([/B][B]He was laid up with two broken ribs for six weeks.)[/B]

Someone showed [B](Introduced)[/B] the visitors in the room.

Until you remain idle you will make no [B](no should be omitted)[/B] progress.

It is very wrong to be devoted ([B]tended[/B],[I]since devotion is 'positive'[/I]) to lying and cheating.

He told me that he is waiting for me since a long time. [B](He told me that he had been waiting for me for a long time.)[/B]

The house stood up [B](stood out)[/B] in the dull street because of its red door.

He brought the articles to the market which he wanted to sell. [B](He brought the articles which he wanted to sell to the market.)[/B][/QUOTE]

1.Passing through ten different cities, Karachi is the most active city

2.He laid up for six weeks with two broken ribs.

3.Someone saw the visitors in the room

4.you will make no progress until you remain idle.

5.It is very wrong to be devoted to lie and cheat.(:roll:roll)

7.The house stood up dull in the street because of its red door.

8.He brought articles to the market which he wanted to sell.

regrds

fiya Monday, February 21, 2011 05:44 PM

One must boast of his great qualities.

one must boast of [COLOR="Sienna"]one's[/COLOR] great qualities.

British English follows the traditional pattern, whereas american can use his as well.

mhmmdkashif Monday, February 21, 2011 05:54 PM

[QUOTE=xaara~hussain;268954]Passing through ten different cities, Karachi is the most active [B](one)[/B].

He was laid up for six weeks with two broken ribs. [B]([/B][B]He was laid up with two broken ribs for six weeks.)[/B]

Someone showed [B](Introduced)[/B] the visitors in the room.

Until you remain idle you will make no [B](no should be omitted)[/B] progress.

It is very wrong to be devoted ([B]tended[/B],[I]since devotion is 'positive'[/I]) to lying and cheating.

He told me that he is waiting for me since a long time. [B](He told me that he had been waiting for me for a long time.)[/B]

The house stood up [B](stood out)[/B] in the dull street because of its red door.

He brought the articles to the market which he wanted to sell. [B](He brought the articles which he wanted to sell to the market.)[/B][/QUOTE]

Im not an expert at this, but I only know a rule, and that is never change the meaning and vocab in the correction and stick to adjusting grammatical mistakes only (like you did [B]no should be ommitted [/B]or replace [B]show [/B]with [B]introduced[/B], it will change the entire meaning of the phrase in question)

here is my try:
[LIST=1][*]someone showed the visitors to the room. (to the room)[*]it is wrong to be devoted to lying and cheating. (take out very :D, dont change any original words)[*]Until you remain idle you shall make no progress (the sentence is assertive so replace "will" with "shall", i guess)[/LIST]
P.S.: Please guide me with these things, cuz I am no good at English and I need to learn a few things before exam :cry

Shahid Shakoor Monday, February 21, 2011 05:57 PM

Please help in correction
 
1). What does a patient tell a doctor it is confidential ?

2). It is a fact that I almost drowned makes me very careful about water safety whenever I go ???swimming

3). Did they not consider this as quiet convincing????

4). St Peter’s at Rome is the largest of all other churches
[B][COLOR="Magenta"]St Peter's at Rome is the largest of all churches[/COLOR][/B]
5). The amount they receive in wages is greater than twenty years ago

6). They succeeded with hardly making any effort?????

7). Whatever have you done !?????

8). The officers were given places according to their respective ranks????

Shahid Shakoor Monday, February 21, 2011 06:08 PM

Brother haza blunders
 
[QUOTE=mhmmdkashif;268991]Im not an expert at this, but I only know a rule, and that is never change the meaning and vocab in the correction and stick to adjusting grammatical mistakes only (like you did [B]no should be ommitted [/B]or replace [B]show [/B]with [B]introduced[/B], it will change the entire meaning of the phrase in question)

here is my try:
[LIST=1][*]someone showed the visitors to the room. (to the room)[*]it is wrong to be devoted to lying and cheating. (take out very :D, dont change any original words)[*]Until you remain idle you shall make no progress (the sentence is assertive so replace "will" with "shall", i guess)[/LIST]
P.S.: Please guide me with these things, cuz I am no good at English and I need to learn a few things before exam :cry[/QUOTE]

someone showed the visitors to the room(dear it does nt make any sense)
Someone saw the visitors in the room(correct) i consult it with teacher


it is wrong to be devoted [B]to lying and cheating[/B]. (take out very :D, dont change any original words)
i think to k sath first form ati ha so [B]to lie and cheat[/B]


Until you remain idle you shall make no progress (the sentence is assertive so replace "will" with "shall", i guess)

your guess is not right because it is clear cut chown by sentence that its arrangement is required to be changed


you will make no progress until you remain idle.(correct)

xaara~hussain Monday, February 21, 2011 06:30 PM

[QUOTE=Shahid Shakoor;268972]1.Passing through ten different cities, Karachi is the most active city

2.He laid up for six weeks with two broken ribs.

3.Someone saw the visitors in the room

4.you will make no progress until you remain idle.

5.It is very wrong to be devoted to lie and cheat.(:roll:roll)

7.The house stood up dull in the street because of its red door.

8.He brought articles to the market which he wanted to sell.

regrds[/QUOTE]
lol m quite dumb at correcting sentences, but one thing I am sure k door wala sentence theek nahi kia ap ne cos red color can't make something Dull. :D

mhmmdkashif Monday, February 21, 2011 06:38 PM

[QUOTE=Shahid Shakoor;268996]

Until you remain idle you shall make no progress (the sentence is assertive so replace "will" with "shall", i guess)

your guess is not right because it is clear cut chown by sentence that its arrangement is required to be changed


you will make no progress until you remain idle.(correct)[/QUOTE]

you know what, when you are not sure about the right thing, you should always go with the first guess, once you give it a second thought and you will make mistakes :D.

[QUOTE=Shahid Shakoor;268996]someone showed the visitors to the room(dear it does nt make any sense)
Someone saw the visitors in the room(correct) i consult it with teacher


it is wrong to be devoted [B]to lying and cheating[/B]. (take out very :D, dont change any original words)
i think to k sath first form ati ha so [B]to lie and cheat[/B]


[/QUOTE]

I am not sure, but I get a feeling you have mistaken there :sad

show to the room means guide the way to the room, the correction you made changes the entire meaning.
[B]to lie and cheat [/B] is used in different contexts where lie and cheat are used as verbs, here [B]lying [/B]and [B]cheating [/B]are serving as [B]nouns[/B], not [B]verbs[/B].

Shahid Shakoor Monday, February 21, 2011 07:09 PM

sister jiiii
 
[QUOTE=xaara~hussain;269005]lol m quite dumb at correcting sentences, but one thing I am sure k door wala sentence theek nahi kia ap ne cos red color can't make something Dull. :D[/QUOTE]

Behna,,,,
is question pr phly bhi bht bahs ho chuki ha...please check this link

[url]http://www.cssforum.com.pk/css-compulsory-subjects/english-precis-composition/grammar-section/22288-lets-correct-incorrect-sentences-past-papers-16.html[/url]

regards

Shahid Shakoor Monday, February 21, 2011 07:12 PM

[QUOTE=mhmmdkashif;269008]I am not sure, but I get a feeling you have mistaken there :sad

show to the room means guide the way to the room, the correction you made changes the entire meaning.
[B]to lie and cheat [/B] is used in different contexts where lie and cheat are used as verbs, here [B]lying [/B]and [B]cheating [/B]are serving as [B]nouns[/B], not [B]verbs[/B].[/QUOTE]


room wali correction k bary ma i am dead sure that it is right

but about [B]To lie and cheat[/B] me too in doubt

regards

Can any one tell me the meaning of "Got up to kill" and its use in sentence...i am unable to find his meaning:sad

regards

mhmmdkashif Monday, February 21, 2011 07:30 PM

[QUOTE=Shahid Shakoor;269018]Can any one tell me the meaning of "Got up to kill" and its use in sentence...i am unable to find his meaning:sad

regards[/QUOTE]

[COLOR=black]got up to kill - very well-dressed[/COLOR]

faizasoomro Monday, February 21, 2011 08:04 PM

it seems all correct but there are some mistakes in some sentrences
i will tell u

xaara~hussain Monday, February 21, 2011 08:15 PM

[QUOTE=Shahid Shakoor;269015]Behna,,,,
is question pr phly bhi bht bahs ho chuki ha...please check this link

[url]http://www.cssforum.com.pk/css-compulsory-subjects/english-precis-composition/grammar-section/22288-lets-correct-incorrect-sentences-past-papers-16.html[/url]

regards[/QUOTE]
ji, so the sentence is correct the way i did it! u cannot change the meaning of sentence in correcting it!

bhattee Monday, February 21, 2011 08:15 PM

He has visited as many historic places as one has or can visit.

Arain007 Monday, February 21, 2011 09:19 PM

[QUOTE=bhattee;269048]He has visited as many historic places as one has or can visit.[/QUOTE]
[B]
He has visited as many historic places as one can have or could visit.[/B]

mhmmdkashif Monday, February 21, 2011 10:02 PM

He has visited [B]only[/B] as many historical places as one can have visited. (Try to get the sense of the phrase, its not saying [B]He has visited so many historical places that no one else can manage[/B], its saying [B]He has visited only as many historial places as anyone else[/B] :D).

Hope I am rite.

Eager Monday, February 21, 2011 11:05 PM

my question still remains unanswered. what to do if sentence appears absolutely correct?? there is a limit to leave them on choice:D:D

mhmmdkashif Monday, February 21, 2011 11:16 PM

Allah kaa naam le ke 2 3 lafz aage peeche karke wohi sentence likh den, 4 din main to grammer master koi nahin ho sakta :D.

xaara~hussain Tuesday, February 22, 2011 12:39 PM

1). What does a patient tell a doctor it is confidential ?
[B]What a patient tells a doctor is confidential.[/B]

2). It is a fact that I almost drowned makes me very careful about water safety whenever I go swimming
[B]It is a fact that I almost drowned and this makes me very careful about water safety whenever I go swimming.
[/B]
3). Did they not consider this as quiet convincing
[B]Did they not consider this quite convincing?[/B]

4). St Peter’s at Rome is the largest of all other churches
[B]St. Peter's in Rome is the largest of all other churches.[/B]

5). The amount they receive in wages is greater than twenty years ago
[B]The amount they receive in wages is greater than that of twenty years ago.[/B]

6). They succeeded with hardly making any effort
[B]They succeeded without hardly making any effort. [/B]

7). Whatever have you done !
[B]Whatever you have done![/B]

8). The officers were given places according to their respective ranks
[B]The officers were given the places according to their respective ranks.[/B]

Scorpion86 Tuesday, February 22, 2011 01:08 PM

[QUOTE=xaara~hussain;269264]

2). It is a fact that I almost drowned makes me very careful about water safety whenever I go swimming
[B]It is a fact that I almost drowned and this makes me very careful about water safety whenever I go swimming.
[/B]
[/QUOTE]

The fact that I almost drowned makes me careful about water safety whenever I go swimming.

Correct me if I am wrong :sad

Arain007 Tuesday, February 22, 2011 01:09 PM

[QUOTE=mhmmdkashif;269097]He has visited [B]only[/B] as many historical places as one can have visited. (Try to get the sense of the phrase, its not saying [B]He has visited so many historical places that no one else can manage[/B], its saying [B]He has visited only as many historial places as anyone else[/B] :D).

Hope I am rite.[/QUOTE]

You are also right but the examiner is asking to correct the sentence not to delete some words.
According to sentence...us ny kafi historical places visit ki jitni koi kr skta hy [B](present)[/B] ya ki [B](past)[/B]
Both present and past situations are there so you have to correct this sentence without deleting any portion.

I think that this is more suitable [B]He has visited as many historic places as one can have or could visit.[/B]

Farrah Zafar Tuesday, February 22, 2011 02:02 PM

It is a fact that I almost drowned makes me very careful about water safety whenever I go[B](for)[/B] swimming .(what do you say Friends?)
is k elava mujhe Scorpion ka sentence theek lag ra hai.

[QUOTE]6). They succeeded with hardly making any effort[/QUOTE]
They succeeded hardly making any effort.(hardly is used in negative sense and using "without" along doesn't seem appropriate.

mhmmdkashif Tuesday, February 22, 2011 02:13 PM

It is raining since yesterday

Correct that one :D

Farrah Zafar Tuesday, February 22, 2011 02:25 PM

[QUOTE=mhmmdkashif;269325]It is raining since yesterday

Correct that one :D[/QUOTE]

It has been raining since yesterday(or the previous day)

huma gillani Tuesday, February 22, 2011 02:47 PM

[QUOTE=Eager;268897]1. You ought to have regarded him your benefactor.
2. He has visited as many historical places as one has or can visit.
3. The hostel provides lodging and boarding to students.
4. My cousin-brother will come to meet me.
5. One must boast of his great qualities.
6. He is one of those who always succeed.
7. The black vermin is an odious creature.
8. What to speak of meat, even vegetables were not allowed there.
9. The criminal was sent to the gaol.
10. The firm was willing to forgo its usual commission.
11. This is the historical spot where he was shot dead.
12. I don't remember him giving me a present.
13. Passing by the damaged house, a brick fel on my shoulder.
14. The idea of me flying is too silly to even contemplate.

these sentences have been taken from previous papers of English Precis and composition. Almost all of them seems correct to me. Can you find out the mistakes?? plz correct them if you can. And if they are correct, how the solve them as they might come in exam??
plz answer
Regards[/QUOTE]

2. He has visited as many historical places as one [B]have[/B] or [B]could [/B]visit.

4. My [B]cousin[/B]will come to meet me.

5. One must boast of his great qualities. OR
One must boast of [B]one's [/B]great qualities.

7. The black vermin is an odious [B]species[/B].

8. [B]Not to speak of meat, vegetables were not even available.[/B]

these are what I got to know from the book "EXPLORING THE WORLD OF ENGLISH" by Syed Saadat Ali Shah

mhmmdkashif Tuesday, February 22, 2011 04:41 PM

My cousin will come to meet me? (That is actually a question, when you use [B]will[/B] in a sentence, you should specify the exact timing, like [B]My cousin will come to meet me sometime[/B], otherwise no mention of specific time will make it an interrogative or exclamatory phrase. Or simply change it to [B]My cousin is coming to meet me[/B] :D)

I havent consulted this with anyone, it comes out of my brain, do suggest any improvements ;).

Farrah Zafar Tuesday, February 22, 2011 06:35 PM

[QUOTE=mhmmdkashif;269377]My cousin will come to meet me? (That is actually a question, when you use [B]will[/B] in a sentence, you should specify the exact timing, like [B]My cousin will come to meet me sometime[/B], otherwise no mention of specific time will make it an interrogative or exclamatory phrase. Or simply change it to [B]My cousin is coming to meet me[/B] :D)

I havent consulted this with anyone, it comes out of my brain, do suggest any improvements ;).[/QUOTE]

Is mein "brother"ko nikalna tha ya phr my cousin and brother will come to meet me.Kia khayal hai?

mhmmdkashif Tuesday, February 22, 2011 06:43 PM

[QUOTE=Farrah Zafar;269418]Is mein "brother"ko nikalna tha ya phr my cousin and brother will come to meet me.Kia khayal hai?[/QUOTE]

hmmm, yeh bhi sahi hai

My cousin and brother will come to meet me!

magar mujhe yeh exclamatory sentence lagta hai, is ke aakhir main full stop kee jaga ! lage gaa :D

Farrah Zafar Tuesday, February 22, 2011 06:57 PM

[QUOTE=mhmmdkashif;269421]hmmm, yeh bhi sahi hai

My cousin and brother will come to meet me!

magar mujhe yeh exclamatory sentence lagta hai, is ke aakhir main full stop kee jaga ! lage gaa :D[/QUOTE]

Us se kia ho ga?

mhmmdkashif Tuesday, February 22, 2011 07:06 PM

Hoga yeh keh checker thora impress ho jaye gaa ke is ne sentence ko identify kiya hai :D.

jaise kabhi kabhar aise sentence bhi correction ke liye aa jaate hain jaise:

are you coming with me.

ab aise kee correction yeh hogi ke: are you coming with me? :D :D

BTW: Mujhe is baare main koi ziada pata nahin hai, maine kabhi english seekhi nahin aur na hee kabhi english medium school yaa college attend kiya hai aur na kabhi tution lee hai :D. Meri english mere andaazoon se chalti hai :D, isi liye maine is thread main post kiya tha taake mere andazoon ko validation mil jaaye :D. So never take me seriously and tell me if you have any knowledge :D.

Farrah Zafar Tuesday, February 22, 2011 07:08 PM

No worries.I also don't claim to be master of English;)
Post more sentences please so that we may do it mutually.

mhmmdkashif Tuesday, February 22, 2011 07:25 PM

The vast extent of steppes of Central Asia is enormous.
Nobody didn't ought to lose their way so easy in a small town.
Whom would you say is likely to win the fight?
Neither him nor his friend were hurt;

correct those

Farrah Zafar Tuesday, February 22, 2011 07:32 PM

[QUOTE]Neither him nor his friend were hurt;[/QUOTE]
Neither him nor his friend [B]was[/B] hurt.

[QUOTE]Nobody didn't ought to lose their way so easy in a small town.[/QUOTE]
Nobody [B](didn't)[/B]ought to lose [B]his[/B] way so easy in a small town
[QUOTE]
The vast extent of steppes of Central Asia is enormous.[/QUOTE]
The ([B]vast)[/B]extent of steppes of Central Asia is enormous.

Farrah Zafar Tuesday, February 22, 2011 07:43 PM

[QUOTE]Whom would you say is likely to win the fight?[/QUOTE]
[B]who[/B] would you say is likely to win the fight?
@Kashif kia ap is se sehmat hain?:D

Kindly tell me the meaning of steppes?

mhmmdkashif Tuesday, February 22, 2011 07:48 PM

steppes=Extensive plain without trees (maidan)

who would you say is likely to win is correct, whom is the objective case of who :D. again i m not sure :(.


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