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its really confusing :p

how an essay goes without conclusion?
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I am posting views of sir Rzi Abidi about essay.......

1; DONT define any issue like democracy it is absurd to define the issue bcoz by doing this u r trying to teach the examiner....

2;Dont give history bcoz dead can not teach the livings....

3;Dont give any religious view in the essay dont quote any hadees or verse of quran in the essay......

4; Dont criticize a person always criticize the system.....

i know these facts will prove very shocking for u all but these are the views of the great sir Razi Abidi.......
m teacher also told us same things...

There is no need to write definition like Democracy, never give type of democracy by wrting like "there are many types of democracy i.e direct and Representative and then their definitions"...

some students write like " definition of democracy is.............. and its types are _______ and _______ "


In case of Good governance no need to give definition given by UNO or development banks etc....it give impression that ur r just filling page...

"terrorism is____________ and it has four type. state sponsor terrorism, non state actor, Cyberterrorism and Nuclear terrorism" ur are not asked to define terrorism and its type...


these type of errors/ blunders some time proves disaster...as point of view of different people is different...

always try to start from what is asked....

it is often written in the ques ppr of essay "Credit will be given for organization, relevance and clarity".


if u review good books of essays i am sure, you will find not even single essay that starts from definition and types...

similarly, do not quote much Hades or verse of Holy Quran in the essay like we do in Islamist paper....Examiner will never give credit to those who write 10-15 Ahadis or reference of Quranic verses....

Write history if we ask about future prediction like "future of democracy" we need to link past and predict or provide recommendation...if we ask to write about "women empowerment" no need to write "condition of women in pre-islamic era"
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any student of sir please clear these points...if we should not write definition, history, quranic ayat, conclusion..then what will we do, to cover 20 pages of essay, how we start it, how we end it?
studens of other english teachers also express there teacher's views...

to find out the answers of aforementioned queries, now you gotta visit him and he will ask "fee le k aye ho?" nhi! to jao le k ao pehlay phir btao ga kya likhna hy".....
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I am posting views of sir Rzi Abidi about essay.......

1; DONT define any issue like democracy it is absurd to define the issue bcoz by doing this u r trying to teach the examiner....

2;Dont give history bcoz dead can not teach the livings....

3;Dont give any religious view in the essay dont quote any hadees or verse of quran in the essay......

4; Dont criticize a person always criticize the system.....

i know these facts will prove very shocking for u all but these are the views of the great sir Razi Abidi.......
These are really shocking as common sense won't endorse such "tips" as you elaborated here. Essay writing is highly subject to "subjective" approach both in terms of writing and assessing; every one will come up with his/her own approach towards it. May be the examiner who is currently examining CSS papers, has contrastive views on it, and a candidate having followed Sir Abidi's approach poorly might face disastrous consequences.

Essay writing can never be associated with such strict "rules & regulations"; a well organized essay, with good expression, and most of all with the originality both in contents and style will keep you safe regardless of examiner's, so-called, approach.

Further its the topic of the essay which determines the content--as whether the religious or historical references,and elaboration of the topic are needed or not--whatever you write it should be appropriate and according to the demand of the essay.

Distorting your natural way of writing according to some one's else' may harm your originality. The only thing one needs paying heed to, is avoiding blunders.

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Dear he does not need to promote himself because he has so many students you even cant imagine.And he has checked essay paper of fpsc for many years thts why he is considered authority on essay writing.His students has scored above 70 in essay and students from all over the country consider it their privilege to seek his guidance.
He might be teaching hundreds and thousands of them, and a few of them might be scoring really well but there would be hundreds of those as well who would be failing.

Scoring in essay is not all about instruction you are getting , its more about your expertise in writing and your capacities which are being reflected by the thousands of words you present on paper.
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any student of sir manzoor mirza or sir kashif can resolve this confusion???that what is their opinion about this??
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essay writing is all about ur ideas n how u write them..... thr is no need to give definitions u can start with any fact ...any quotation abt topic like democracy....n just stick to ur ideas rather than giving history try to give common day to day life examples.... especially topics regrading poverty, education, status of women.....i will not agree wd third point...but fourth point seems relevant
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to find out the answers of aforementioned queries, now you gotta visit him and he will ask "fee le k aye ho?" nhi! to jao le k ao pehlay phir btao ga kya likhna hy".....
sir razi's famouse line " fee ly ker ay ho" makes him unpopuler in students. n some of times students give him 2 or 3 thousands instead of 6..then the very next day he use to take n then count every single note then keep in his pocket by saying " mujhy kal koi sahab 3 hazar day gay thy" :P

I joined Razi Abidi Sahab Oct 2011- feb 2012.. n i know how he insult all student by the name of fee.. he is a good teacher .. but my opinion for 2013 aspirant is to join any one else rather then Sir razi......
Good of luck to all Sir razi abidi students....
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Will u plz justify why to join any teacher other than sir razi?
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Will u plz justify why to join any teacher other than sir razi?
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Dear that was my personal opinion
n for the sake of justice , wanna clear it ..
app ko sir koi knowledge nhi dain gay, he just use to solve past papers in class. 1st day of class he instructed students to buy 3 dictionaries n books i.e
1. Will Durante's story of Philosophy
2. Russel's Pleasure of philosophy
3. Conquest of Happiness by Russel
4. DIc of Philosophical terms
5. dic of psychological term
6. dic of literary term

plzz now you justify, person who join him in december or jan can read all this stuff? while he or she has to apear in exames after 2 or 3 months??
1 more thing if you don't have full grip at grammer portion then why you join him ? while he just solved past papers in class. if your concepts clear with all this situation then join him with out any hesitation ...
once again that was my personal opinion not to join him ...
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