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Roshnain Swati Saturday, June 07, 2014 06:10 PM

[QUOTE=Bonaparte;728183]Started with Quotation

[B][I] “The doom of a nation can be averted with the spark of a glowing passion and only those who are passionate among themselves can arouse passion in others”
Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)[/I][/B]

1) Introduction
2) Retrospect and outlook of Great nations
2.1) Germany and its disturbed region of Bavaria
2.2) France and its unstable island of Corsica
2.3) Great Britain and its independent seeking region of Scotland
2.4) Russian Federation and its relations with central Asia (Eurasian countries)
3) Problems of third world states to become Great nations
3.1) Personal avidity and self-Interest
3.2) Geopolitical agenda by means of using forces
3.3) Regional hegemony by means of fighting
3.4) Political unstable and lack of unity
3.5) Lack of vision oriented leaders
4) Current scenario of third world countries.
4.1) India and Kashmir Issue
4.2) Pakistan and its crippled provinces of Balochistan and KPK
4.3) Bangladeshi politics on History to raise nationalism by fighting
5) Effect on third world countries by means of using force
5.1) Psychological distressed
5.2) Division in society
5.3) Projection of negative image on international communities
5.4) Strict rules and sanctions imposed by developed nations
6) How to become a great nation and win without fighting.
6.1) Shunning personal avidity
6.2) Political will to do attitude
6.3) strengthening good relationships with neighbour countries
6.4) Equality before law at all levels
6.5) Need to adopt strategy of benevolence
6.6) Approach to forget the past and focus on the future mutual understanding
6.7) Positive image on main stream media
7) Conclusion

(more points written can not recall right now )
11 pages, and approximately 2100 words have been seized.[/QUOTE]

Personally, i felt a little uncomfortable with the repeated use of the term ' third world' in the outline. I really cant see adequate stress on the terms 'great nations', 'win', 'without fighting'. At places you have mentioned points that hit the core of the essay but those points are under an ambiguous heading e.g. 4.2, 4.3. For me, the points under main heading 5 are valid but the caption 'effect on third world countries' shifts the flow to somewhere else. Had the same sub headings being discussed under a main heading that read ' Effects of fighting' or something like that, that would have been more pertinent to the essay. Point 6 is what i liked the most about your essay.

All the best and hope to see you amongst the qualifiers.

micho Monday, June 09, 2014 11:28 AM

[QUOTE=Bonaparte;728183]Started with Quotation

[B][I] “The doom of a nation can be averted with the spark of a glowing passion and only those who are passionate among themselves can arouse passion in others”
Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)[/I][/B]

1) Introduction
2) Retrospect and outlook of Great nations
2.1) Germany and its disturbed region of Bavaria
2.2) France and its unstable island of Corsica
2.3) Great Britain and its independent seeking region of Scotland
2.4) Russian Federation and its relations with central Asia (Eurasian countries)
3) Problems of third world states to become Great nations
3.1) Personal avidity and self-Interest
3.2) Geopolitical agenda by means of using forces
3.3) Regional hegemony by means of fighting
3.4) Political unstable and lack of unity
3.5) Lack of vision oriented leaders
4) Current scenario of third world countries.
4.1) India and Kashmir Issue
4.2) Pakistan and its crippled provinces of Balochistan and KPK
4.3) Bangladeshi politics on History to raise nationalism by fighting
5) Effect on third world countries by means of using force
5.1) Psychological distressed
5.2) Division in society
5.3) Projection of negative image on international communities
5.4) Strict rules and sanctions imposed by developed nations
6) How to become a great nation and win without fighting.
6.1) Shunning personal avidity
6.2) Political will to do attitude
6.3) strengthening good relationships with neighbour countries
6.4) Equality before law at all levels
6.5) Need to adopt strategy of benevolence
6.6) Approach to forget the past and focus on the future mutual understanding
6.7) Positive image on main stream media
7) Conclusion

(more points written can not recall right now )
11 pages, and approximately 2100 words have been seized.[/QUOTE]

The keywords in the essay were
(1) Great Nations
(2) Win
(3) Fighting- With or without.

After reading your outline, i felt like that your essay was not revolving around these keywords. I liked your introductory points.

Ozia Monday, June 09, 2014 09:14 PM

All those who are interpreting fighting as struggle,just tell me why would the examiner give such a statement which makes no sense.
"great nations win without struggle" seems like an extremely stupid statement.
if anyone still persists that it was the statement,please give some arguments to prove your point.

Buddha Monday, June 09, 2014 09:33 PM

[QUOTE=Ozia;728728]All those who are interpreting fighting as struggle,just tell me why would the examiner give such a statement which makes no sense.
"great nations win without struggle" seems like an extremely stupid statement.
if anyone still persists that it was the statement,please give some arguments to prove your point.[/QUOTE]

Because the examiner wants you to write against this extremely stupid statement and not fall into the trap

Ozia Tuesday, June 10, 2014 10:31 AM

[QUOTE=Buddha;728733]Because the examiner wants you to write against this extremely stupid statement and not fall into the trap[/QUOTE]



if he wanted to trap us,he would have given some statement which could be written in favor of.Giving a statement like "everyone is a fool" and assuming that people will write in favor of it and get trapped is not the caliber of CSS essay paper setter.



As I said earlier,can I get some arguments or examples in favor of "great nations win without struggle"(so called trap)?

Buddha Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:14 PM

[QUOTE]As I said earlier,can I get some arguments or examples in favor of "great nations win without struggle"(so called trap)?[/QUOTE]

Why are you asking for the proposition arguments? Does existence of proposition arguments warrant the existence of meaningfulness of the term where only opposition arguments hold true? Go read the whole thread. The struggle in this case means military struggle as well as most of the people who has interpreted the term has included.

Roshnain Swati Tuesday, June 10, 2014 01:07 PM

My take on this is - The more we squeeze the borders when defining a term, the less we are left with to write on. Its a 2000+ words essay and we cant limit 'fighting' to just 'bombarding' and 'troops'.

If we were to write on 'A hungry man can go to any extreme', we cant just stick to the dictionary definition of a 'man' and make the whole essay revolve around that. The sagacious writer will expand the meaning of a 'man' to a 'man, society, nation etc'.

I will agree that if we keep our focus on just the nation-nation fight and write a comprehensive essay with supportive arguments and examples, it will suffice. But those, who widen the meaning of the term fight and win are doing NO wrong either if their arguments are convincing.

Ozia Tuesday, June 10, 2014 08:17 PM

[QUOTE=Buddha;728892]Why are you asking for the proposition arguments? Does existence of proposition arguments warrant the existence of meaningfulness of the term where only opposition arguments hold true?

yes,the existence of at least a few proposition arguments warrant the existence of meaningfulness of the term. khair it is another debate. U said it was a trap but the definition of a trap includes a piece of cake or cheese to attract the prey.I am sorry i cannot find an incentive in this statement by your interpretation. that is why i was asking for proposition arguments.

@roshan.
I agree that it depends on the examiner if he finds one's arguments convincing but again,during css 2013 the examiner was very brutal.

The Shah Ends Tuesday, June 10, 2014 10:29 PM

Stop getting into it deeper. Just wait. Let the examiner announce what he wanted us to write. :pp
Allah karay ap saray pass hon. Ameen

Roshnain Swati Tuesday, June 10, 2014 10:41 PM

Its not about who is right or who is wrong. Its about sharing our views.

I learnt a lot from members who replied to this thread. We must not care how lengthy a thread gets or why people argument - We must appreciate that people take out time to respond and share their views - and someone like me, learns a lot while debating.

So no 'STOP' to this thread :)


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