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Salam to all of you.
I saw in many websites that Hazrat Ali didn't marry in the life of Hazrat Fatima. But married after Hazrat Fatima's death. But I heard that he married in the life of Hazrat Fatima. And had son Hazrat Abbas from the second wife in presence of Hazrat Fatima. And when Hazrat Fatima went to his father, Hazrat Mohammad (PBUH) and told him that Hazrat Ali married second wife, He said "Fatima is part of my body and who hurts her he hurt me". So, please tell me the correct one. ![]() |
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Hi Marwatone,
let me make you correct. Hazrat Ali did not get marry in the presence of Hazrat Fatima bint e Muhammad (PBUH). after the death of Hazrat Fatima the brother of Hazrat Ali, Hazrat Aqeel, introduced a lady whose name was also Fatima and Famous as Hazrat Fatima bint e Asad, and asked him to get marry with her Hazrat Ali accepted the proposal of his brother and got marry with Hazrat Fatima bint e Asad who is the second wife of Hazrat Ali and Hazrat Abbas is the son of his Second wife, Hazrat Fatima bint e Asad. Last edited by Last Island; Friday, January 11, 2008 at 10:43 PM. |
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@marwatone:
It is a very important point and its good that you want to discuss it around but a word of caution that few things are very sensitive and one need to go careful. In this particular instance, your question is asked in good faith and I have gone through this Hadith but remember that while quoting Hadith kindly give proper reference from some acknowledged work moreover I felt that the context in which you are using this Hadith is controversial as well so please be cautious before writing something of this sort since it has high potential to hurt the feelings of some fellows around. I hope you understand what I mean. Thanks for understanding and sorry for any inconvenience that someone might have felt with this reply.
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Oh I am so sorry if I hurt somebody' feeling but could you please tell me the right reference so I will correct it. I will be thankful to you. I never mind if somebody tell me the right thing.
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@marwatone:
I don't have the reference of the Hadith. Thank you for understanding and keep open it shows your moral courage to accept the criticism positively. I am glad to notice this positive mind set of yours.
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@marwatone
no its not right... Hazrat Ali Never got married second time in the life of Hazrat Fatima (AS). and the son to whom u r talking about i.e. Hazrat Abbas (AS), He is the son of Hazrat Ali (AS) from the second wife namely Hazrat Ummul Baneen. and Hazrat Abbas (AS) is younger than Hazrat Imam Hussain (AS). Name: Abbas Title: Qamar-e-Bani Hashim Designation: Alamdar/Flag Bearer Kunyat: Abul Fazl Father: Hazrat Ali Ibne Abi Talib Mother: Fatima Bint-e-Hazam Born: 7 Rajab/4 Shabaan (645 AD) Died: 10 Moharram 61 AH (680 AD) Martyred by: Sword on Ashura Buried: Karbala, Iraq when He martyred, his age was 34 years while Hazrat Imam Hussain was 63 years old that time.
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Hazrat Abbas Introduction:
Hazrat Abbas was the son of Hazrat Ali ibne Abi Talib. His mother's name was Fatima Binte Hazam bin Khalid Ibn-e-Rabi'e Ibn-e-Amer Kalbi. She was also known as 'Ummul Baneen'. She belonged to the clan of Banu Kilah, which was one the noblest families amongst the Hashimites and famous for the bravery and valour of its warriors. Some years after the martyrdom of Fatema Zehra (S.A.), Imam Ali (A.S.) asked his brother Aqil to offer the marriage proposal to a woman from a brave progeny. Being so knowledgeable in this regard, Aqil wooed Fatima Binte Hazam (Ummul Baneen) for Imam and they got married. Fatima Binte Hazam was an accomplished and cultured lady, and bore Hazrat Ali's four sons, Abbas, Abdulla, Ja'far and Usman. The meaning of 'Ummul Baneen' is 'Mother of Sons'. All of her sons were martyred along with Imam Hussain. After their martyrdom, she requested people not to call her 'Ummul Baneen' ever again. The day she entered the household of Hazrat Ali, she made it very plain to Imam Hasan and Imam Hussain that she considered herself their slave, and she hoped and prayed that they would accept her as one. Her respect and affection for there was soon reciprocated by the two brothers, and even after her children were born, Imam Hasan and Imam Hussain occupied a foremost place in her heart. Fatima Binte Hazam had such sincerity toward the Holy Prophet's progeny that she loved Imam Hussain (A.S.) more than her own children. A feeling which was from the bottom of her heart. It was to the extent that when she received the news stating the martyrdom of her four children, she said: "Tell me about Hussain (A.S.)" and when she received the news of Imam Hussain (A.S.)'s martyrdom she said: "All of the arteries of my heart are torn. May all of my children and what ever that exists under this azure heaven be sacrificed for the sake of Imam Hussain (A.S.). One of the bravest of the Holy Prophet's followers Ja'far Tayyar, the brother of Hazrat Ali. In the battle of Muta, Ja'far Tayyar carried the Banner of Islam and in that battle he was out-numbered by the enemies and killed. When the news reached the Holy Prophet he cried and prayed for Ja'far's soul and the angel Gabriel came down and consoled (the Prophet), saying "Ja'far was a brave and loyal soldier. God has given him everlasting life, and in place of two arms which were cut off in the battle, the Lord has given him a pair of wings". Hazrat Ali, who was sitting near the Holy Prophet at that time, said, "Please pray to God that I should die fighting for the cause of Islam and become a martyr." But the Holy Prophet said, "0 Ali, your death has already been decreed. You shall die in the mosque during your prayers, but the Almighty will give you a son who will die in the battle on Ashoora day". From that time Ali eagerly awaited the birth of that son.
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@Sahar12
its my request to u always make sure b4 telling anything specially regarding Islamic point of views ok? u said Hazrat Fatima Binte Asad is the second wife of Hazrat Ali (naauzbillah), Hazrat Fatima Binte Asad is the name of the Mother of Hazrat Ali and his second wife name is Hazrat Fatima Binte Hazam or Ummul Baneen.
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@marwatone
The Prophet (s) said, "Fatima is part of me. Whatever upsets her upsets me, and whatever harms her harms me." Sahih Muslim, v. 5, p. 54; Khasa'is Al-Imam Ali of Nisa'i, p. 121-122; Masabih Al-Sunnah, v. 4, p. 185; Al-Isabah, v. 4, p. 378; Seir Alam Al-Nubala', v. 2, p. 119; Kenz Al-Omal, v. 13, p. 97; similar wording is related in Al-Tirmidhi, v. 3, Chapter on the Virtues of Fatima, p. 241; Haliyat Al-Awliya', v.2, p. 40; Muntakhab Kenz Al-Omal, in the margins of Al-Musnad, v. 5, p. 96; Maarifat Ma Yajib Li Aal Al-Bait Al-Nabawi Min Al-Haqq Alaa Men Adahum, p. 58; Dhakha'ir Al-Uqubi, p. 38; Tadhkirat Al-Khawass, p. 279; Yanabi^ Al-Mawadda, v.2, ch. 59, p. 478.
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The Prophet (s) said, "The most beloved of my family to me is Fatima."
Al-Jami^ al-Sagheer, v. 1, #203, p. 37; Al-Sawaiq Al-Muhariqa, p. 191; Yanabi^ Al-Mawadda, v. 2, ch. 59, p. 479; Kenz Al-Omal, v. 13, p. 93. The Prophet (s) said, “Fatima is more beloved to me than you, oh Ali, and you are dearer to me than her.” Majma^ Al-Zawa’id, v. 9, p. 202; Al-Jami^ Al-Sagheer, v. 2, p. 654, n. 5761; Muntakhab Kenz Al-Omal, v. 5, 97; Asad Al-Ghaba, v. 5, p. 522; Yanabi^ Al-Mawadda, v. 2, ch. 56, p. 79; Al-Sawaiq Al-Muhariqa, ch. 3, p. 191. Ya Allah Ya Muhammad Ya Ali Ya Fatima Ya Hasan Ya Hussain The Prophet (s) said, "The verse of purification was revealed concerning five people: myself, Ali, Hassan, Hussein, and Fatima." Is^af Al-Raghibeen, p. 116; Sahih Muslim, Kitab Fadha'il Al-Sahaba. The Prophet (s) said, "The first people to enter Paradise will be Ali and Fatima." Nur Al-Absar, p. 52; related by similar wording in Kenz Al-Omal, v. 13, p. 95. The Prophet (s) said, "The head of the women of Paradise is Fatima." Kenz Al-Omal, v. 13, p. 94; Sahih Al-Bukhari, Kitab Al-Fadha'il, Chapter on the Virtues of Fatima; Al-Bidaya wa Al-Nihaya, v. 2, p. 61. The Prophet (s) said, "Oh, Ali, Jibreel has informed me that God has married you to Fatima." Manaqib Al-Imam Ali from Al-Riyadh Al-Nudhra, p.141. The Prophet (s) said, "I am not pleased unless Fatima is pleased." Manaqib Al-Imam Ali of Ibn Al-Maghazali, p. 342. The Prophet (s) said, "Oh, Ali, God has commanded me to marry you to Fatima." Al-Sawaiq Al-Muhariqa,. ch. 4, p. 142; Dakha'ir Al-Uqubi, p. 30 & 31; Tadhkirat Al-Khawas, p. 276; Manaqib Al-Imam Ali from Al-Riyadh Al-Nudhra, p. 141; Nur Al-Absar, p. 53. The Prophet (s) said, "All the children of a mother are attributed to their fatherly relation except the sons of Fatima." Al-Sawaiq Al-Muhariqa, p. 156 & 187; related in similar words in Mustadrak Al-Sahihain, v. 3, p. 179; Kenz All-Omal, v. 13, p. 101; Is^af Al-Raghibeen quoted in the appendix of Nur Al-Absar, p. 144. The Prophet (s) said, "The Mehdi is from my family, from the sons of Fatima." Al-Sawaiq Al-Muhariqa, p. 237. The Prophet (s) said, "Verily, God has weaned (fatama in Arabic) my daughter Fatima and her children and those who love them from the Hellfire, and that is why she is named Fatima." Kenz Al-Omal, v. 6, p. 219. The Prophet (s) said, "Fatima is part of me. Whatever upsets her upsets me, and whatever harms her harms me." Sahih Muslim, v. 5, p. 54; Khasa'is Al-Imam Ali of Nisa'i, p. 121-122; Masabih Al-Sunnah, v. 4, p. 185; Al-Isabah, v. 4, p. 378; Seir Alam Al-Nubala', v. 2, p. 119; Kenz Al-Omal, v. 13, p. 97; similar wording is related in Al-Tirmidhi, v. 3, Chapter on the Virtues of Fatima, p. 241; Haliyat Al-Awliya', v.2, p. 40; Muntakhab Kenz Al-Omal, in the margins of Al-Musnad, v. 5, p. 96; Maarifat Ma Yajib Li Aal Al-Bait Al-Nabawi Min Al-Haqq Alaa Men Adahum, p. 58; Dhakha'ir Al-Uqubi, p. 38; Tadhkirat Al-Khawass, p. 279; Yanabi^ Al-Mawadda, v.2, ch. 59, p. 478. The Prophet (s) said, "Fatima is part of me, and whoever pleases her, pleases me." Al-Sawaiq Al-Muhariqa, p. 180 & 132; Mustadrak Al-Hakim; Maarifat Ma Yajib Li Aal Al-Bait Al-Nabawi Min Al-Haqq Alaa Men Adahum, p.73; Yanabi^ Al-Mawadda, v. 2, ch. 59, p. 468. The Prophet (s) said, "Fatima is the head of the women of Paradise." Sahih Al-Bukhari, v. 3, Kitab Al-Fadha'il, Chapter on the Virtues of Fatima, p. 1374; Mustadrak Al-Sahihain, v. 3, Chapter on the Virtues of Fatima, p. 164; Sunan Al-Tirmidhi, v. 3, p. 266; Kenz Al-Omal, v. 13, p. 193; Muntakhab Kenz Al-Omal, v. 5, p. 97; Al-Jami^ Al-Sagheer, v. 2, no. 564, p. 5760; Seir Alam Al-Nubala’, v. 2, p. 123; Al-Sawaiq Al-Muhariqa, p.187 & 191; Khasai’s Al-Imam Ali of Nisa’i, p. 118; Yanabi^ Al-Mawadda, v. 2, p. 79; Al-Jawhera Fi Nasab Ali Wa Aalihi, p. 17; Al-Bidaya wa Al-Nihaya, v. 2, p. 60. The Prophet (s) said, “Fatima is part of me, so whoever makes her angry makes me angry.” Sahih Al-Bukhari, v. 3, Kitab Al-Fadha’il, Chapter on the Virtues of Fatima, p. 1374; Khasa’is Al-Imam Ali of Al-Nisa’i, p. 122; Al-Jami^ Al-Sagheer, v. 2, p. 653, n. 5858; Kenz Al-Omal, v. 3, pp. 93-97; Muntakhab in the margin of Al-Musnad, v. 5, p. 96; Masabih Al-Sunnah, v. 4, p.185; Is^af Al-Raghibeen, p. 188; Dakha’ir Al-Uqubi, p. 37; Yanabi^ Al-Mawadda, v. 2, pp. 52-79. The Prophet (s) said, “Fatima is part of me and she is my heart and the soul which is between my two sides.” Nur Al-Absar, p. 52. The Prophet (s) said, “Fatima is the head of the women of my nation.” Seir Alam Al-Nubala’, v. 2, p. 127; Sahih Muslim, Kitab Fadha’il Al-Sahaba, Chapter on the Virtues of Fatima; Majma^ Al-Zawa’id, v. 2, p. 201; Is^af Al-Raghibeen, p. 187. The Prophet (s) said, “Fatima is the joy of my heart, and her sons are the fruit of my soul.” Yanabi^ Al-Mawadda, v. 1, ch. 15, p. 243. The Prophet (s) said, “Oh Fatima, verily God is angry when you are angry.” Al-Sawaiq Al-Muhariqa, p. 175; Mustadrak Al-Hakim, Chapter on the Virtues of Fatima; Manaqib Al-Imam Ali of Ibn Al-Maghazali, p. 351. The Prophet (s) said, “Fatima, God will not torture you or any of your children.” Kenz Al-Omal, v. 13, p. 96; Muntakhab Kenz Al-Omal, in the margin of Musnad Ahmad, v. 5, p. 97; Is^af Al-Raghibeen, in the margin of Nur Al-Absar, p. 118.
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