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Ahmad Shami Monday, September 28, 2009 05:54 PM

thnx a lot bro...

i had an edge in EDS coz im a doctor..
so background knowledge kaafi thaa...plus competitive series ki science ki book,past 25-30 years k papers and evry day science k notes...
for islamiat...we went to dr. liaqat ali niazi...unho ne kaafi prep krai thi...plus basics(like nmaaz,roza,haj,hadith,quran etc etc) hum ne puraanay notes se tyaar k thi..

or in sb ki prep me ne js DOST k saath ki thi, us ka bohooot braaaa role he..infct wo jo kehta gia me krta gia...n Alhmdulillah he got 22nd position n me got 23rd :)

thnx alot cheetay!!
i mean leopard ;)

n same goes to u tooo...
hope to c u soon there at csa..

REEYAN Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:40 AM

@ ahmed shami

That’s really wonderful to see ur struggle dear. Wish u good luck for new journey in csa.


Regards

aliz_khanz Tuesday, October 06, 2009 08:10 PM

congrats everybody !!

i want to ask , Ahmad shami , r u from Garrison Boys School ????

Also , i have a question for FSP guys....i have heard that as u join the FSP u need to learn some foreign languages for which there is some institution in Islamabad...... but some guys are sent out of the country for the same purpose .... i want to know that is there any merit base thing to decide who would go abroad to learn the languages and who would stay here...???

SDM Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:37 AM

Plz Draw a Comparison 4 ur Juniors.
 
Dear seniors of FSP,
Plz point out some good points of FSP comparing it with Customs. Why should the FSP be placed higher to Customs.I've taken CE 2009 n waiting 4 result. Some of the seniors(Serving Officers) have suggested that Customs must be preferred over FSP.I know, I'll find myself in dire straits of confusion after qualifying written(Inshallah). I'm posting it prematurely, but after announcement of result there wud be a very little time to make up my own mind n fill in preference form. hope u'll understand n help us(2009 Aspirants) out.

leopard Wednesday, October 07, 2009 04:43 PM

Learning Foreign Languages
 
[QUOTE=aliz_khanz;145183]Also , i have a question for FSP guys....i have heard that as u join the FSP u need to learn some foreign languages for which there is some institution in Islamabad...... but some guys are sent out of the country for the same purpose .... i want to know that is there any merit base thing to decide who would go abroad to learn the languages and who would stay here...???[/QUOTE]


Aslam o Alaikum,


Brother learning a Foreign Language is a compulsion for Civil Servants of FSP & for that one has to clear the FPOE (Final Passing Out Examination). Some languages are one year's duration while some others are of 2 years etc. The Government sends the qualifiers of FPOE to the countries of respective languages e.g. for French one is sent to France etc.
Therefore, invariably, all of them go abroad subject to the clearance of FPOE, of course.
Opting any particular language depends upon your seniority as per the merit list & Luck.

Regards,

leopard Wednesday, October 07, 2009 05:18 PM

@ SDM

Brother choice of occupational groups beside depending upon your merit order. It also depends upon one's apptitude. Normally the hierarchy of groups depends upon a simple "demand & supply" Principle e.g. if majority of the aspirants will place DMG as their [B]First[/B] option, DMG will get the top position in hierarchy. Similarly if Police, FSP or Customs etc. will be listed at No 1 position by the aspirants they will become the NO 1 group etc.

Regarding drawing a comparison between the top three or 4 occupational groups, I wud advise you to first analyze your temperament & potential.

Police & DMG offer Authority, Honour (Particularly within our native society), Rapid Permotion & Diverse Portfolios (Such as in Police you will get postings in FIA, IB, and all other formidable law enforcement agencies & In DMG you can get postings in almost all of the civil institutions including corporations & semi autonomous bodies).... Negative points include, Intense Politicised environment, Hectic work load (given the type of law & order situation that is prevaling in our country)... Normally one has to fight at front line of defence if he opts PSP or DMG.

As far as FSP is concerned, the work environment is quite relaxed & humble... One get enormous opportunities of improving one's educational profile at government's expense... Potential individuals use this group as a launching pad to get handsome jobs in International organisations such as WTO, WB and UNO etc. Your interaction largely takes place with the polished & learned global diplomatic community; one gets a lot of positive exposure... The negative points include:
1. Survival on pay alone
2. family has to move country to country (since the postings change after 3 or 5 years)
3. Education of kids suffer (No single schooling etc.)
4. private vehicle or personal staff is offered at higher grades (i.e. 18 or 19 whereas in PSP or DMG or even in Customs it is offered in grade 17)

So if you want to enjoy authority & has as typical bureaucratic temperament then join PSP, DMG or Customs otherwise if you are self-centered individual who wants to spend most of the time in learning etc. then go for FSP...

Finally yet importantly, another important feature that helps in determining the merit order of these service groups is the fact that Army officers, who enter in civil services through a short cut of 'Lateral Entry' go into PSP, DMG & FSP.... So this fact also signifies their importance with reference to customs ....

Disclaimer: This is purely my analysis and must be taken as my own point of view regarding these occupational groups.... This must not be considered as an attempt to eulogise my own group while playing down the importance of other groups....

oriental Wednesday, October 07, 2009 05:59 PM

@Leopard
 
Hi :)

Would you plz elucidate the "LATERAL ENTRY"....why should the army men join the civil service...It means one can not escape them......

ARMY ARMY EVERYWHERE ;) ;)

aliz_khanz Wednesday, October 07, 2009 08:52 PM

thanks for ur reply !!

just one thought , i concluded from ur reply that all the FSP after passing the FPOE go abroad !! i was once told that only selected persons go.... can u please throw some more light on this one ???

and this fpoe , is it after ctp and stp ? a separate one ??

Adil Memon Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:01 PM

every probationer has to pass the final passing out examination (fpoe) after stp or in some cases MBA. unless you pass the fpoe of foreign services of pakistan, you will not be appointed abroad. according to the terms and conditions of appointment, any officer failing in fpoe thrice will be removed from service.

regards,

aliz_khanz Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:27 PM

thank u ...
if a person resigns his job after some interval of time , lets say 5 yrs or 6 years.... and then wants to resume it , can he rejoin fsp at the same post or would he has to go through css exam all again !!


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