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And now there is a proposal to repeal the Police ordinance 2002 in Punjab and KPK as well..In due course of time,Magesterial powers might also be goven back to the AC's/DC's..lets keep the fingers crossed
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The restoration of Commissionerate System in Sindh is an extremely silly and selfish move by GoP! While the DMGians would be jumping with joy after this debacle,but the sufferings of the people would be increased!

And secondly,clearing the CSS exam doesn't necessarily mean that one is more capable and worthy to manage affairs of a district better than the elected representatives!
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The restoration of Commissionerate System in Sindh is an extremely silly and selfish move by GoP! While the DMGians would be jumping with joy after this debacle,but the sufferings of the people would be increased!

And secondly,clearing the CSS exam doesn't necessarily mean that one is more capable and worthy to manage affairs of a district better than the elected representatives!
When the elected representatives come with a single point agenda i.e'khao piyo' program than its much better that the CSS officers replace them..They are after all,trained to administer.Its not about clearing the CSS exam,it is about the training they are given after that which makes them good enough to manage the affairs..
Secondly,just have a look at the state of affairs,the magnitude of corruption,law and order situation and the plight of common man before 2002 and after that,you shall yourself get the answer..L-G was a system unfit for Pakistan,imposed by an unintelligent,impractical and a military man having a pea sized brain..without any thought as to its repercussions..So it basically had to be done away with..
P.S:Clearing the CSS exam to an extent means that you actually are capable enough to do the task you are given.
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The restoration of Commissionerate System in Sindh is an extremely silly and selfish move by GoP! While the DMGians would be jumping with joy after this debacle,but the sufferings of the people would be increased!

And secondly,clearing the CSS exam doesn't necessarily mean that one is more capable and worthy to manage affairs of a district better than the elected representatives!
These so called elected represtatives are mostly selected and having "Khao Piyo" agenda as Salick said. well finaly we have someone educated person in a position to solve the problems of peoples, and by the way elected peoples are more currupt beacuse they are uneducated and belongs to so called political parties.
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According to a TV Talk show that MQM has devised a formula about local govt. and commissionerate system and it is accepted by our honorable president to make the stance of MQM softer against Govt. This formula will be operative near to next election with another local body election in Sindh and this formula will make the situation of officers even poorer than the system implemented by Gen. Musharaf. There will be 3 to 4 DCs in a district i.e. DC 1, DC 2 and Two Assistant Commissioners will be reporting to Nazims or Mayers in future. Bechari Govt. ko MQM ko khush kerne aur target killing rokne ke liye system ko kharab kerna per raha hai.
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When the elected representatives come with a single point agenda i.e'khao piyo' program than its much better that the CSS officers replace them..They are after all,trained to administer.Its not about clearing the CSS exam,it is about the training they are given after that which makes them good enough to manage the affairs..
Secondly,just have a look at the state of affairs,the magnitude of corruption,law and order situation and the plight of common man before 2002 and after that,you shall yourself get the answer..L-G was a system unfit for Pakistan,imposed by an unintelligent,impractical and a military man having a pea sized brain..without any thought as to its repercussions..So it basically had to be done away with..
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Well,basically the "khao piyo" phenomenon is not only associated with the elected representatives! Over the years, people have suffered at the hands of BARRIER-Cracy a.k.a Bureaucracy. The corruption of the bureaucrats goes unnnoticed as they are not answerable to the people whereas elected representatives have to go back to the people to be elected again. Any corruption scam of a politician is incomplete without a bureaucrat in picture. Infact the bureaucrats guide the politicians through the dark tunnels of corruption.
P.S: Were Mohammad Ali Jinnah, or Allama Iqbal or Dr.Abdus Salam or Dr.A.Q.Khan or Edhi ................................. all CSPs? So,clearing CSS exam is not necessarily a certificate of excellence!
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These so called elected represtatives are mostly selected and having "Khao Piyo" agenda as Salick said. well finaly we have someone educated person in a position to solve the problems of peoples, and by the way elected peoples are more currupt beacuse they are uneducated and belongs to so called political parties.
Lets take a look at who has caused Pakistan more harm? Educated people or uneducated ones?
1) Field Marshal Ayub Khan----->Educated
2) His Excellency Yahya Khan------>Educated
3) His Holiness Zia-ul-Haq---------->Educated
4) G.I.K------------------------------->Educated Bureaucrat
5) The Enlightened Moderate Musharraf Sb------>Educated
6) Civil Bureaucracy--------------------------->Educated
And apart from that, all the main political leaders of the country are also educated people! So dear,dont put the blame on uneducated people as they are already pre-occupied with their own problems and start looking what went wrong in the Medulla Oblongata of educated people of this country!
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Well,basically the "khao piyo" phenomenon is not only associated with the elected representatives! Over the years, people have suffered at the hands of BARRIER-Cracy a.k.a Bureaucracy. The corruption of the bureaucrats goes unnnoticed as they are not answerable to the people whereas elected representatives have to go back to the people to be elected again. Any corruption scam of a politician is incomplete without a bureaucrat in picture. Infact the bureaucrats guide the politicians through the dark tunnels of corruption.
P.S: Were Mohammad Ali Jinnah, or Allama Iqbal or Dr.Abdus Salam or Dr.A.Q.Khan or Edhi ................................. all CSPs? So,clearing CSS exam is not necessarily a certificate of excellence!
Ok so bureaucrats are corrupt..But atleast they made service delivery to the public more efficient than the politicians or the Nazims did.everyone knows how nazims mixed up administration with politics and resultantly the district administration deteriorated..
Well I think u are getting it wrong..It is not necessary to pass this exam to become a renowned person par excellence..But passing this exam certainly means that u are are the the very cream of the nation..
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Lets take a look at who has caused Pakistan more harm? Educated people or uneducated ones?
1) Field Marshal Ayub Khan----->Educated
2) His Excellency Yahya Khan------>Educated
3) His Holiness Zia-ul-Haq---------->Educated
4) G.I.K------------------------------->Educated Bureaucrat
5) The Enlightened Moderate Musharraf Sb------>Educated
6) Civil Bureaucracy--------------------------->Educated
And apart from that, all the main political leaders of the country are also educated people! So dear,dont put the blame on uneducated people as they are already pre-occupied with their own problems and start looking what went wrong in the Medulla Oblongata of educated people of this country!


Hence it is proved that All educated persons are harm to country, so lets close schools .... and let the peoples be uneducated
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Hence it is proved that All educated persons are harm to country, so lets close schools .... and let the peoples be uneducated
Yeah right
I seriously doubt what does my brother here wants to prove...
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