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Black Coffee Sunday, March 14, 2010 07:44 PM

@ayezzas
I am beginning to admire ur attitude.I only recently settled down to prepare for css but most people I came across were only concerned with getting thru in the exam.Nobody seems to care much about seeking knowledge...The very experience of delving into a topic and broadening ur perspective is enlightening.Few people look at it tht way.I am glad u are one of those few.
Keep it up n wish u loads of luck:)

ayezzaS Sunday, March 14, 2010 08:01 PM

@black coffee...i cant thank you enough for recognizing my strenous endeavours and yes...seeking knwlge is enlightenment,..excellent words to illustrate this passion...thx again and wat i believe is ,knwledge is the greatest conquest of man!...

courageneverdies Sunday, March 14, 2010 09:20 PM

Regarding MCQ 13???
 
So what does this mean? Isn't the words of the Prophet' stamp comprised of Allah, Rasool, Muhammad.????

????

To me I am sure this is what writtern on the holy stamp of Prophet Peace be Upon Him (SAWW)

Last Island Sunday, March 14, 2010 09:42 PM

@ Ayezza

[QUOTE]have you read MUHAMMAD rasulullah by dr.mohammad hamidullah......?have you read allama shibli,s seerat un nabi.s.a.w.w?have you read SURAH FATAH...the words on the muhr were taken frm an aaya[/QUOTE]

Words of Holy Prophet's stamp were taken from Holy Prophet's seal that was a special birthmark between His (PBUH) shoulders. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) had a ring that said, "Allah Rasool Muhammad" underneath each other and the Prophet (PBUH) used to impress his seal at the end of every letter.

[QUOTE]nw read this one its in arabic..
bismillah hirahman niraheem
min MOHAMMAD rasulullah illa kisra azeem faaris salaam ala mani taba,aal huda wa aa imina biLLAHI..warasulihi...wa ashhadun an la iLAHA illA allah..WA ANNI RASULULLAH ilan naasi kaafatin liyunzira man kaana haya aslama taslam fain baitika fa aa laika isma l majoos..[/QUOTE]

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This is the Arabic text of the letter you mentioned earlier; the letter written to the Muqawqis, the ruler of Egypt. You can see the stamp at the end of the letter that says "Allah Rasool Muhammad".

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This is another letter written to the ruler of Rome bearing the stamp and Muhammad is clearly visible.

Your point was that Holy Prophet (PBUH) used to write "min MOHAMMAD rasulullah" whereas the question is about the stamp "Prophet's Stamp [B]comprises [/B]of ... ". Answer is clear I guess.

courageneverdies Sunday, March 14, 2010 09:58 PM

@ Last Island,

To me its just to confuse the things. Its simply option A, Allah, Rasool, Muhammad.

THere had not been the question of what the words of the stamp of prophet meant but simply The Stamp of Muhammad (P.B.U.H.) comprises the words : And they certainly are Allah, Rasool, Muhammad.

Comprise doesn't mean depiction or deduction, the dictionary entry (definition) for Comprise simply says what something is composed of. So the Stamp of Prophet is composed of three words : Allah, Rasool, Muhammad. And in this order.

Last Island Sunday, March 14, 2010 10:02 PM

This is exactly what I said. :)

DEADLYDOCTOR Sunday, March 14, 2010 11:42 PM

if question had not been about sequence,options had not different sequence
it was about sequence of words,option is a

examination standard regarding mcqs is poor as fpsc tried to make it difficult and standard but ignored the quality
its in all papers

ayezzaS Monday, March 15, 2010 06:31 AM

@last island for the last time.
 
@muhr e nabuvaat in sahi bukhari!first off,listen dear..had they been taklng ov the sequence they ought to have mentioned it.mcqs arent about taking cues..read wat the greatest scholar ov islam dr. m.hamidullah said abt ths,"{our prophet s.a.w.w. had a signature style as modest as today,s."!(i confirmed it frm my teacher who is a HAFT zuban)it was written as ALLAH rasool mOHAMMAD but read as MOHAMMAD rasulullah..it was in arabic and was a complete signature stamp,it wasnt urdu k ho ALLAH rasool MOHAMMAD..
SECOND AND MOST IMPORTANTLY...just c what you wrote...MUHR e nabuvvat,"the words were taken from a seal."...."SAHI bukhari BAAB number 375..."khataman nabuvaata",,",muhr e nabuvaath ka bayaan"...it narrates that it was a mark....as white as the space between the two eyes ov a horse..NO words were written on it last island...hw can a symbol have words..?had thee read this,things would nt have been the same.in arabic words have a trillion meanings...al-munjad states that KHATAMAn...has two meanings 1- a thing that symbolises end...2-a seal....words were the signature stamp ov our UMMI...S,A,W,W i asked you to go via all the books and then argue,,,why are you goping in the dark?
nw,evn if i had a mistake, a singular mistake,,wat diference does it make...?GOD has endowed me a treasure ov ilm...80 markks were there to decide..
i dont want to fight but please dont argue in a way that aint sagacious...
lastly,after this am NOT going to answer any contesting comments. i .remember the glorious words ov MY UMMI...S.A.W.W..."merey deen ki asal aqal hai...ilm meri TALWAAR hai...huzn mera rafeeq hai...sabr meri rida hai"...!m nt going to ans again..inshaALLAH..m followong HIS (S.A.W.W,s )SUNNAH...ILM MERI TALWAAR HAI..SABr meri rida hai...!please dnt edit it,it has a boon ov knowledge let others gain it..let them knw abt their PROPHET s.a.w.w.and i have all these letters in a copied form with me...u need nt to show them to me as they are in my breaths.

Black Coffee Monday, March 15, 2010 04:28 PM

Last Island is absolutely right.That stamp at the end of the letters reads very clearly:Allah Rasul Mohammad.
It should satisfy any existing doubts.

sherry.j Monday, March 15, 2010 04:33 PM

For sure, the commas between Allah, Rasul, Muhammad are enough to tell that examiner wanted the sequence of these words on the stamp.


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