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Ainuddin Kibzai Monday, March 12, 2012 12:07 AM

[QUOTE=Farrah Zafar;411915]Umar ![B] had[/B] tab use hota hai jab purani baat ho.jab maazi qareeb ki baat ho gi like yesterday,last night etc tou past indefinite tense ho ga.so the correct answer is, [B]He came yesterday.[/B][/QUOTE]
Nope.
I disagree here.
Past perfect is used when the event that took place has been followed by some other event or events as well.
Therefore, both Came as well as Had Come are correct and acceptable.

Farrah Zafar Tuesday, March 13, 2012 09:42 PM

[QUOTE=Ainuddin Kibzai;412638]Nope.
I disagree here.
Past perfect is used when the event that took place has been followed by some other event or events as well.
Therefore, both Came as well as Had Come are correct and acceptable.[/QUOTE]

You mean it is correct "He had come yesterday." ? :ohmy:

Ainuddin Kibzai Tuesday, March 13, 2012 09:44 PM

[QUOTE=Farrah Zafar;413209]You mean it is correct "He had come yesterday." ? :ohmy:[/QUOTE]
Yes, I do firmly believe that this one is right as well.

Ahmed Faisal Tuesday, March 13, 2012 09:48 PM

[QUOTE=Farrah Zafar;413209]You mean it is correct "He had come yesterday." ? :ohmy:[/QUOTE]

I, Personally, wrote it in the exam as" He had come yesterday".
it is correct, i am sure.
[B]He came yesterday[/B] is also acceptable. Infect, both are acceptable.

Farrah Zafar Tuesday, March 13, 2012 09:51 PM

[QUOTE=Ainuddin Kibzai;413211]Yes, I do firmly believe that this one is right as well.[/QUOTE]

Is it your belief or you have read it somewhere ? :thinking

Farrah Zafar Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:01 PM

Well, I had already read it somewhere so I was stressing on "He came yesterday".But to get a proof now I just checked in Wren & Martin.It says,

The [B]simple past tense[/B] is used to indicate an action completed in the past.It often occurs with adverbs or adverb phrases of past time.

[B]Examples,[/B]

The steamer sailed [U]yesterday.[/U]
I received this letter a week ago.

The [B]past perfect[/B] describes an action completed [U]before a certain moment[/U] in the past; as,

I met him in New Delhi in 1996.I had seen him last five years before.

Ainuddin Kibzai Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:29 PM

Is your this sentence correct?
" Is it your belief or you have read
it somewhere ?"

Abdussamad Chaudhary Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:34 PM

[QUOTE=Ainuddin Kibzai;413233]Is your this sentence correct?
" Is it your belief or you have read
it somewhere ?"[/QUOTE]

Thora expression bura hai, sentence to theek he hai. Ap log MA English wale kitne keerre nikalte ho yaar. (It's in positive sense). Maafi ni hai aapke kagzoon me to. Shayad Critics ka kam e ye hota hai, Keerrre nikalna. :laughing:laughing

Ainuddin Kibzai Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:45 PM

The correct sentence would be like this.
" Is it your belief or have you read it somewhere? "
And we are discussing corrections here. Therefore, the 'keeray nikalna' is an inevitable element here.
And I opine that my correction was just for the sake of correction.
It wasn't aimed at intimidating someone.

umarabbas Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:46 PM

[QUOTE=Farrah Zafar;413222]Well, I had already read it somewhere so I was stressing on "He came yesterday".But to get a proof now I just checked in Wren & Martin.It says,

The [B]simple past tense[/B] is used to indicate an action completed in the past.It often occurs with adverbs or adverb phrases of past time.

[B]Examples,[/B]

The steamer sailed [U]yesterday.[/U]
I received this letter a week ago.

The [B]past perfect[/B] describes an action completed [U]before a certain moment[/U] in the past; as,

I met him in New Delhi in 1996.I had seen him last five years before.[/QUOTE]


well i wrote "he had come yesterday". but it's wrong since i checked it on the internet. however there is a condition..

for example: ali paid a surprise visit to his mother yesterday. he had come!

yesterday was dropped because it was already mentioned there. but in my personal opinion, yesterday needs to incorporated since one could never tell whether it was yesterday, or the day before, or last year by simply stating he had come!


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