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exclusively Sunday, February 21, 2016 04:46 PM

[QUOTE=ursula;913860]Stupidity of mine slaughtering trend is beyond my comprehension.You mean paper checkers [B]deliberately[/B] fail students.[/QUOTE]

Yes, they deliberately fail because they need only a certain number of candidates for the further phases i.e viva & psychometric tests. Besides, it has been an incompetency of FPSC in targeting one paper every year. This time essay paper is going to be the main target in slaughtering. Since the composition paper is 35% out of the course, so FPSC is likely going to be lenient in the marking as per the nature and trend of paper. It is far easier to fail essay paper.

Lunatic bird Sunday, February 21, 2016 05:38 PM

[QUOTE=exclusively;913832]Synonyms:
1. Nabob : [B]Bigiwig [/B]
2. Pall : [B]Satiate [/B]
3. Sacrosanct: [B]Sacred [/B]
4. Louche: [B]Indecent[/B]
5. Stentorian: [B]Loud [/B]
6. Loquacious: [B]talkative [/B]
7. Chimera: [B]Illusion [/B]
8. Temerity: [B]Stupid [/B]
9. Propinquity: [B]nearness[/B]
10. Vociferous: [B]Strident [/B]

Antonyms:
1. Germane: [B]irrelevant[/B]
2. Fatuous: [B]sensible[/B]
3. Sapient:
4. Mutational
5. Impecunious
6. Irascible : [B]placid[/B]
7. Approbate : [B]condemn[/B]
8. Supercilious: [B]meek[/B]
9. Quiescent: [B]active[/B]
10. Sartorial: [B]cheerful[/B]

Hats off to FPSC for setting such a horrific paper that is around 35% out of the syllabus. Thanks to Lord at least this time my synonyms and antonyms went better and I am hoping to sail this horrific paper.

My 13+ vocabs are correct. 3 Analogies, 4 corrections, 4 idioms, 5 Pairs of words, 2 punctuation, Narrative passage was fine but not really good, translations and précis done really well but in the last I was short of time so could not manage to solve all the comprehension well. However, I am hoping for the best. Wishing you all the best of luck :)[/QUOTE]
Good to know that your English p&C went satisfactory.Hope u'll sail through this time around.BTW,where is you essay outline? I have been looking for it and which one did u attempt?
And yes, good look for optional ones.

ursula Sunday, February 21, 2016 09:31 PM

[QUOTE=abbas khan 119;913870] Majority for example would have [B]mixed up gender with sex in gender equality essay. Likewise foreign aid would have been taken either as donation or debt only.[/QUOTE][/B]
Very important point raised,at my hall a lady was also bashing that women are talented and they compete against the odds more audaciously than her counter parts. Word [B]Gender[/B] itself is very controversial within the sociopolitical settings of Pakistan.

[QUOTE=exclusively;913873]Yes, they deliberately fail because they need only a certain number of candidates for the further phases i.e viva & psychometric tests. Besides, it has been an incompetency of FPSC in targeting one paper every year. This time essay paper is going to be the main target in slaughtering. Since the composition paper is 35% out of the course, so FPSC is likely going to be lenient in the marking as per the nature and trend of paper. It is far easier to fail essay paper.[/QUOTE]
Yeah!I know system is at the verge of collapse,still we hope that examiner will be fair and impartial.May Allah make us successful.Ameen
Just recheck your synonyms again,I found some incorrect.:)
[QUOTE=Lunatic bird;913882]Good to know that your English p&C went satisfactory.Hope u'll sail through this time around.BTW,where is you essay outline? I have been looking for it and which one did u attempt?
And yes, good look for optional ones.[/QUOTE]
Inshallah all of us paste our outlines,but after the papers: i hope we will learn from each other's mistake.:thinking
Bundle of thanks to all of you for providing me answers.:)

Muhammad Masoom Sunday, February 21, 2016 10:11 PM

precise issue resolved or still un-resolved? those who have done in the first person will they be able to get marks?

ishti ahmad Sunday, February 21, 2016 10:28 PM

Aoa wat are average marks for per questions in comprehension of this paper???


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qublai khan Sunday, February 21, 2016 10:29 PM

[QUOTE=Muhammad Masoom;913943]precise issue resolved or still un-resolved? those who have done in the first person will they be able to get marks?[/QUOTE]
it is necessary that one should write in third person.

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Muhammad Masoom Sunday, February 21, 2016 10:31 PM

those who have done in first person should deduct their precise marks from the total ?

ishti ahmad Sunday, February 21, 2016 10:34 PM

And also for precise and title from 15 and 5 respecticely


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Muhammad Masoom Sunday, February 21, 2016 10:38 PM

what will be the fate of those who have solved in the first pronoun. will they be awarded no score or just some deduction. though the site from where the paragraph has been picked by the examiners contains also the solution in the first pronoun.

abbas khan 119 Sunday, February 21, 2016 11:03 PM

Sir you may be having better idea so kindly please enlighten us with your own views. As for i know, in exploring the world book on page 966 precise has been written in first form, another book" write in style" also allows the use of personal pronouns. Besides my friend, who is ma English and cleared pms twice, also endorsed the idea to use first pronouns.

Subhan Naseem Chaudhary Sunday, February 21, 2016 11:19 PM

She recommended that I take a few days off from work.
I tried to explain the problem to him, but he had difficulty understanding me.
I don’t know why you didn’t go. If I were you, I would have gone.
Kevin says he stopped traveling internationally because of his family.

Muhammad Masoom Sunday, February 21, 2016 11:20 PM

any experienced professor will be in better position to clarify the ambiguity. in my opinion even in first person in context of this particular paragraph should be acceptable as it conveys the meaning clearly.

Jabbar Raheem Sunday, February 21, 2016 11:45 PM

First person precis will be penalized... Fpsc wants to target this subject and will do the same without any mercy... Wishful thinking should be done away with...

Subhan Naseem Chaudhary Sunday, February 21, 2016 11:50 PM

[QUOTE=nida ghaus;913723]objective was too difficult, like we are decedents of Shakespeare :([/QUOTE]
haha

Muhammad Masoom Sunday, February 21, 2016 11:50 PM

[QUOTE=Jabbar Raheem;913979]First person precis will be penalized... Fpsc wants to target this subject and will do the same without any mercy... Wishful thinking should be done away with...[/QUOTE]


what will be the penalty. zero ...................

Jabbar Raheem Sunday, February 21, 2016 11:50 PM

Alhamdulillah, I've at least 30 marks with 12 confirm vocab, not considering precis, comp, translation... hope to cross the threshold in 3 questions as they went fine...
title: An exquisite and edifying trip to Cherokee
p.s Anybody knows 1st corrections answer? about sister's cape's code

Jabbar Raheem Sunday, February 21, 2016 11:56 PM

one of my teacher asked me about 2 twists in precis after the paper and those 2 twists were excessive use of 1st person and examples... He who avoided both of them will get maximum credit (with impeccable english) and whosoever fell victim to anyone of them will be penalized accordingly... this what he said

Muhammad Masoom Sunday, February 21, 2016 11:56 PM

[QUOTE=Jabbar Raheem;913982]Alhamdulillah, I've at least 30 marks with 12 confirm vocab, not considering precis, comp, translation... hope to cross the threshold in 3 questions as they went fine...
title: An exquisite and edifying trip to Cherokee
p.s Anybody knows 1st corrections answer? about sister's cape's code[/QUOTE]

thats great . what about the essay ?

sohail nr Sunday, February 21, 2016 11:56 PM

Thank you for sharing the link....

Jabbar Raheem Sunday, February 21, 2016 11:59 PM

i attempted topic # 2

Subhan Naseem Chaudhary Monday, February 22, 2016 12:24 AM

Cape Cod is a proper noun, and both words should be capitalized is right.

Subhan Naseem Chaudhary Monday, February 22, 2016 12:25 AM

[QUOTE=Jabbar Raheem;913982]Alhamdulillah, I've at least 30 marks with 12 confirm vocab, not considering precis, comp, translation... hope to cross the threshold in 3 questions as they went fine...
title: An exquisite and edifying trip to Cherokee
p.s Anybody knows 1st corrections answer? about sister's cape's code[/QUOTE]
Cape Cod is a proper noun, and both words should be capitalized is right\

Jabbar Raheem Monday, February 22, 2016 08:21 PM

[QUOTE=Subhan Naseem Chaudhary;913993]Cape Cod is a proper noun, and both words should be capitalized is right\[/QUOTE]

thanks... it means 31 for me

Ayaz9 Tuesday, February 23, 2016 12:49 AM

[QUOTE=aniya warraich;913787]Please don't scare her! Something that has gone wrong for one candidate doesn't actually go the same way for others. No two persons can have same marks for somewhat similar outlines. similarly the fate of two essays can't be all the same. It wasnt a good idea to point out a mistake in her outline this way I believe. Now Madiha will be in a state of worry for all these 6 months.

Madiha! keep praying and have faith. Try to improve all this time for your next attempt while praying for this one. Good luck :)[/QUOTE]

This forum is actually a platform to guide the aspirants. If some one shares the knowledge on the basis of one's hands on experience, then declaring it as scary post is unfair. No one have enough time to get login in this forum and post to just scare others. Furthermore, it was not merely the matter of similar outlines, it was the idea and theme of that specific essay which had beguiled me in my previous attempt and now it is my duty to let the others know about misconception. As far as her state of worry in upcoming months is concerned, in my opinion the space of improvement is always there. So its better to be in learning stage rather than to be in delusion. About the fate of similar essays in css , i do agree with your point of view and i had already wished her good luck. Who knows!her learning in next months may elevate her from Foreign services (my wish for her for this attempt) to PAS in her upcoming attempt.

Zainab S Tuesday, February 23, 2016 07:39 PM

Sentence correction
 
Sentence no 5: We took a tent, a cooler, and a sleeping bag.

This bothered me and my teacher. Sentence itself is correct unless we consider serial comma aka oxford comma. In US it is ok but in British English it is discouraged and the serial comma is only permissible for clarity sake. So we both are wondering about the style guide of CSS. Has anyone any info over it?

Good luck everyone who appeared in 2016. Overall papers are quite well-balanced if we overlook few things.

ursula Tuesday, February 23, 2016 08:04 PM

[QUOTE=Zainab S;914538]Sentence no 5: We took a tent, a cooler, and a sleeping bag.

This bothered me and my teacher. Sentence itself is correct unless we consider serial comma aka oxford comma. In US it is ok but in British English it is discouraged and the serial comma is only permissible for clarity sake. So we both are wondering about We style guide of CSS. Has anyone any info over it?

Good luck everyone who appeared in 2016. Overall papers are quite well-balanced if we overlook few things.[/QUOTE]
Could you provide me link.
Because, I believe that sentence has irregular parallelism.I.e. each object is in simple form without any gerud;while,that of [B]sleeping[/B] is creating non-parallelism.
So my suggested correction is
[B]We took a tent, a cooler, and a bag[/B].
Sentence structure
(Subject+intense verb+ object)
Here all objects must be in same condition not [B]object1=object2=object 3[/B]
While in case of sleeping bag,state of equilibrium is disturbed.
P.S.That's my own recommendation,you may have your own.:sleep:

Zainab S Tuesday, February 23, 2016 08:30 PM

Here:

"most British style guides discourage use of the serial comma unless the items in the series would be confusing without it."

[url]http://grammar.about.com/od/rs/g/serialcommaterm.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.grammarly.com/handbook/punctuation/comma/36/oxford-comma/[/url]

[url]http://grammar.wikia.com/wiki/Oxford_comma[/url]

What you are suggesting is something completely different. I'll forward his to my teacher but the thing is sleeping bag is a specific type of bag. Replacing it with just a bag won't be a plausible solution because then it can be any bag.

When should we use oxford comma,
[url]http://www.grammarly.com/blog/2015/what-is-the-oxford-comma-and-why-do-people-care-so-much-about-it/[/url]

This explains when it will be necessary to absolutely use oxford comma.

See this is why we are fretting over style guide. It can be quite confusing.

ursula Tuesday, February 23, 2016 09:10 PM

[QUOTE=Zainab S;914554]Here:

"most British style guides discourage use of the serial comma unless the items in the series would be confusing without it."

[url]http://grammar.about.com/od/rs/g/serialcommaterm.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.grammarly.com/handbook/punctuation/comma/36/oxford-comma/[/url]

[url]http://grammar.wikia.com/wiki/Oxford_comma[/url]

What you are suggesting is something completely different. I'll forward his to my teacher but the thing is sleeping bag is a specific type of bag. Replacing it with just a bag won't be a plausible solution because then it can be any bag.

When should we use oxford comma,
[url]http://www.grammarly.com/blog/2015/what-is-the-oxford-comma-and-why-do-people-care-so-much-about-it/[/url]

This explains when it will be necessary to absolutely use oxford comma.

See this is why we are fretting over style guide. It can be quite confusing.[/QUOTE]
Do you know I also follow APA style of wring:here problem is not comma,because bag,tent and cooler might be of same thing.it has sentence parallelism problem
Let's have a look on this
[url]https://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/623/01/[/url]
I hope it will fix the problem.

Zainab S Tuesday, February 23, 2016 10:02 PM

[QUOTE=ursula;914564]Do you know I also follow APA style of wring:here problem is not comma,because bag,tent and cooler might be of same thing.it has sentence parallelism problem
Let's have a look on this
[url]https://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/623/01/[/url]
I hope it will fix the problem.[/QUOTE]

I see. Yes I understand you. It just doesn't feel right to me. But I know that is not a valid counter-argument so I'd forward it to her. Let's see what she says about it.
Thank you so much Ursula. Good luck for your papers. I very much look up to you and Nazish. I hope you both make it. Keep rocking! :)

Zainab S Tuesday, February 23, 2016 10:04 PM

Oh the main question, the style guide. What should I tell my teacher about that, any idea?

qublai khan Wednesday, February 24, 2016 12:07 AM

[QUOTE=Zainab S;914587]Oh the main question, the style guide. What should I tell my teacher about that, any idea?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://doclecture.net/1-7033.html[/url]


incorrect
we took a tent,a cooler,and a sleeping bag.

correct
we took tent,cooler,and a sleeping bag.


a material noun,when used in general sense,does not need determiner.

here tent and cooler are proper nouns because someone is taking them so they are some specific tent and cooler so as a rule there will be ‘zero article'.


also mentioned in exploring the world of English by syed saadat Ali shah page no: 430

indefinite article is used with ‘sleeping bag because it is the combination of adjective and common noun in the singular number

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Taimur Ali shah Wednesday, February 24, 2016 12:14 AM

Sorry to say but tent and cooler are not proper nouns but the commen nouns and an artical is specifically used to describe its properness.. so for the sentence a cooler is correct at it is avoiding the genralization and mentioning a coller specific taken to the trip...

Regards.

qublai khan Wednesday, February 24, 2016 12:20 AM

[QUOTE=Taimur Ali shah;914613]Sorry to say but tent and cooler are not proper nouns but the commen nouns and an artical is specifically used to describe its properness.. so for the sentence a cooler is correct at it is avoiding the genralization and mentioning a coller specific taken to the trip...

Regards.[/QUOTE]
my mistake bro
yes cooler and tent are not proper nouns

it happens in hurry

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huzaifa77 Wednesday, February 24, 2016 02:16 PM

you were supposed to simply add a colon. Its usual to add a colon before u start writing names in a list. I just checked somewhere on the internet. We took: a cooler, a tent and a sleeping bag

qublai khan Wednesday, February 24, 2016 04:06 PM

[QUOTE=huzaifa77;914699]you were supposed to simply add a colon. Its usual to add a colon before u start writing names in a list. I just checked somewhere on the internet. We took: a cooler, a tent and a sleeping bag[/QUOTE]
dear this question has perturbed me



sorry but you are wrong

one is bound use colon after independent clause; having complete meaning

‘we took' is not an independent clause

[url]http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/colons[/url]


[url]http://m.grammarbook.com/punctuation-rules/colons.aspx[/url]




check rule number 2 in second link

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huzaifa77 Wednesday, February 24, 2016 06:24 PM

youre right. maybe theres no mistake there and we're just trying to make something out of it:haha by the way, in my answer i just replaced took with brought. Took didn't feel right.

Uzair Awan Wednesday, February 24, 2016 06:50 PM

There is a comma mistake in
A tent , a cooler, and..... incorrect
a tent, a cooler and .... correct
may be 2 mistake are there one of comma second is of article "a"

Jabbar Raheem Wednesday, February 24, 2016 06:56 PM

[QUOTE=Uzair Awan;914790]There is a comma mistake in
A tent , a cooler, and..... incorrect
a tent, a cooler and .... correct
may be 2 mistake are there one of comma second is of article "a"[/QUOTE]

What about article 'a'?

ursula Wednesday, February 24, 2016 07:28 PM

[QUOTE=Zainab S;914587]Oh the main question, the style guide. What should I tell my teacher about that, any idea?[/QUOTE]

Just say her to consult my mentioned site,because other than this error no mistake is there as far as my knowledge is concerned.:shy
Thanks for the complement.But I believe expectations are dangerous.:vic

Bakht Wednesday, February 24, 2016 07:37 PM

Regarding the sentence we took a tent, a cooler, and a sleeping bag, the correction could only be of comma and thus the corrected sentence would be
We took a tent, a cooler and , a sleeping bag.

That's just what I think since there were also other sentences in this exercise that required mere correction of punctuation


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