Assalam Alaikum,

Well, Mr. Memon we are at it again, so here I come, you have a way to intrigue readers curiosity, well you certainly got mine. Just think about it, what was the topic initially and where have we taken it through our discussion, and now we are back to present India, two thumbs up for that.

Well, just to clear myself, I am not one of those muslims, who like to blame his problems to others to get the load off of my back, and neither am I in the business to defend the rulers of the past, because if they were to follow true Islamic way of governance, things would have been much different today. But I am in the business of calling it wrong, when I see wrong and vise versa.

As for the the Muslim rule in South Asia, compare it to any other rule in the christian world, and you may be surprised how leanient it was with their minorities, given that it was also filled with events that Indian History books are filled with, but does that make it right? I think what is wrong will remain wrong, even if its done by a muslim, be it a ruler or be it a private citizaen. And that's what the religion teaches us.

Coming back to the state of Muslims in India, it is a darn good topic to discuss, but I definitely like to hear u before I show my cards. But I do want to share this little fact to intrigue your curiostiy.

The now famous 18 yr old Indian muslim tennis player, who is applauded by all corners for her talent in the sport she plays, recently faced some sharp criticism on her dress code on the court by Indian muslim clerics. According to them, Sania being muslim is not setting a right example for other muslim girls growing up. On the other hand, Miss Sania rejected this notion, and stated that she will follow the same dress code as it is practiced in the world of tennis. BJP, the same people who were involved in those infamous gujrat riots, backed this young athlete and showed her their full support. Not only that, she is being protected by the government to keep her safe from any terrorist activity that muslim extremist may have planned against her.

Thanks, and definitely looking forward to your intellectual response.

Salaam,

Mr. Ding Dong, I am highly impressed by your idiosyncratic perspective and unique intellectual qualities. There are no arguments at this point.

Presently, I am not well-conversant with western history however I know some of the dreadful incidents. Yes, I have been unable to find such pathetic instances in Muslim history, so you're totally correct about its leniency and peaceful rule.

Hehe... I was trying to end things right there. But you raised another point for further negotiation. Well, since i'm damn tired at the moment after replying a lots of posts I will be prepared for a bigger response tonight. However, let me say something about that tennis player.

In my opinion, the Indian Muslim Clerics are right at their stance (Let me tell you that I am bit prejudiced against women and prefer extremism when it comes to them.) The dress code of a Muslim woman is clearly stated in the Holy Quran and it is no denying that it can't be argued. Since she is a muslim, she must follow what Holy Quran says.

See, the Indian Muslim clerics didn't forbid her to play that sports so openly. All they asked her, was to improve the dress code. Those clerics have been quite moderate at their stance.

Regarding the BJP, everybody knows that its a Hindu Extremist Party. Their top most aim is to destroy Islam and thats what they have been doing (refering to the riots you alluded to). It is the time Sania, herself, understands the ugly tricks of these fanatics and does what Islam says!

Regards,
Adil Memon

Allah Hafiz for now!

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Adil Memon
Police Service of Pakistan (P.S.P)
37th Common Training Program

Assalam Alaikum,

Mr. Memon, I will convey your message to Sania Mirza, next time I talk to her.

Well, if you are going to reply on the State of Muslims in India, then do so under new topic, so other members don't get confused and mixed up.

Thanks.

Salaam,

Mr. Ding Dong, sorry for the delay, let me continue!

I was supposed to put forward my views about state of Muslims in India. This is once again a very controversial topic, however, i'll converge strength and put forward my views (despite knowing, they're criticism-worthy).

India, is strongly a secular state with a stable democracy. A secular state gives equal rights to all its citizens irrespective of their religions. Simply speaking, religion has nothing to do with the state.

India sees a Hindu and a Muslim with the similar eyes.

India consists of a variety of races with different religions. Muslims are one of them. The state of Muslims in India is much better than that of Hindus in Pakistan. Muslims are given equal rights to that of Hindus. Today we see Muslims in India prospering, but the scenario is the opposite here. There are prominent muslims in India. Several Muslim actors/actresses of Bollywood are world-famous. The President of India is a Muslim. Muslims in India are given to right to acquire eminent positions in the administration of the state. They are recruited into the Army.

The reason I think is that Muslims in India have a good strength. They are the second biggest nation in that country.

Pakistan, an ISLAMIC REPUBLIC, is a country acquired in the name of ISLAM. Pakistan is supposed to be a country where Muslims are free to practise their religion however Hindus have been given their nominal constitutional rights.

Pakistan creates a distinction between Hindu and a Muslim on the basis of religion. A Muslim precedes a Hindu.

We see no Hindu on any prominent position in the administration of this country (despite the fact, that they are competent). They are not there in our politics. We don't see them in our Civil Services. They are not allowed into the Army.

And this state may be because the number of Hindus in Pakistan is much smaller as compared to Muslims in India.

Thats all. Looking forward for comments!

Regards,
Adil Memon

People are not supposed to take out the issues of Babri Mosque, Gujrat etc. since they are purely acts of fanatics and they exist on both sides. There have been similar instances in Pakistan when politicians have ordered the murders of minorities!

You don't need to go deep in history, just recall the recent murders of the Qadiyanis/Ahmadis in the Northern Areas.

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"The race is not over because I haven't won yet."

Adil Memon
Police Service of Pakistan (P.S.P)
37th Common Training Program

Assalam Alaikum,

Well Mr. Memon, you have left me no option but to agree with you, that I do.

But, I will tell you my side of analysis, if you allow me. Since India is huge country compare to that of Pakistan, and the number of Muslims vary in different parts. I firmly belive that state of muslim population varies, depending on which region of India they reside in.

I agree with your well put argument, thanks for your ouptput.

Salaam,

Thankyou for the admiration Mr. Babban. Now that I have you with me, I am prepared to face the world.

I must say that Islam has nothing to do with that. Islam doesn't legitimize such treatment of minorities. It's the remodelled ideology of Islam adopted by our custodians that validates such injustice.

Personally I have never been to India and didn't ever come across any such exposures in my life. I just discussed about the overall state of muslims in India compared to that of hindus in Pakistan. However, thanks for telling that!

Regards,
Adil Memon

Thanks for reading!

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"The race is not over because I haven't won yet."

Adil Memon
Police Service of Pakistan (P.S.P)
37th Common Training Program