|
Discussion Discuss current affairs and issues helpful in CSS only. |
Share Thread: Facebook Twitter Google+ |
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
#11
|
||||
|
||||
Mr Naqeebullah.
My brother. First thing is First, i pray , that in your whole life, u never have to expereince suicidal attack and watch the human body pieces scattered all around the place in a manner even worse than a butcher's shop. Scholars ? The religious Scholors ? ... as the hier of the Great Holy Prophet (Saw) ? ... if thats true, then whats the big fuss about scholors fighting each other from the past 1400 years ? No infidel and no normal muslim has harmed islam, more than these , what so called, hiers of the 'holy profit' (note the spellings). They are the ones resposible for all the disturbance. Setting aside, all the Suicidal Bombings in Mosques and processions (i;e Killing Muslim brothers), i will just like to shed some light on, whether the suicide attacking strategy is allowed in islam or not ? And i am sorry that i am not refrencing from some 'heir of the holy profit", but the quran itself. #1 Islam doesnt believe in the first attack. it speaks more for saving a life which is rewarded as , saving the whole humanity, rather than Killing someone, which means, killing the whole humanity. #2 In suicide attacks, the attacker has no idea that whether an innocent person can be its target or not, but if we look at the lifes of the HOly Prophet (saw) and The Sahaba, then we see that, even during the war, their swords used to stop if some innocent person (even an infidel) came under it. #3 All this fuss about the suicide bombing nowadays, is not atall related to islam. And i find it so heart breakening when people are even thinking about whether it is islamic or not. Suicide bombing is just an instrument of America (no doubt, the 9/11 was also an inside job), to keep their war going and keeping the people like you and us busy in figuring out .... this what so called peacefull yet blood shedding islam. |
#12
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
bro i m really sorry to read what u have mentioned above. however its my point of view. yar do,t u think that Islam emphasized more on making people believe in iIslam by word not by sword,,,and what sort of jihad is it where our power counts nothing in front of them,,,i think first we should gather enough power like our holy prophet did by signing Meesaq-e-Madina ,and then we ll be capable of making our words legitimate. |
#13
|
||||
|
||||
Asslamualaikum,
I hope all of you are fine and nice. I request the members who opposed me in my this post, to read out what Qur'an and Sunnah says about jihad. I think the replies were just an outburst, i have given the answer in the light of Qur'an and sunnah of prophet PBUH, not from my own belly. Read it out and decide. All Muslims Must Make Jihad Jihad is an obligation from Allah on every Muslim and cannot be ignored nor evaded. Allah has ascribed great importance to jihad and has made the reward of the martyrs and the fighters in His way a splendid one. Only those who have acted similarly and who have modelled themselves upon the martyrs in their performance of jihad can join them in this reward. Furthermore, Allah has specifically honoured the Mujahideen with certain exceptional qualities, both spiritual and practical, to benefit them in this world and the next. Their pure blood is a symbol of victory in this world and the mark of success and felicity in the world to come. Those who can only find excuses, however, have been warned of extremely dreadful punishments and Allah has described them with the most unfortunate of names. He has reprimanded them for their cowardice and lack of spirit, and castigated them for their weakness and truancy. In this world, they will be surrounded by dishonour and in the next they will be surrounded by the fire from which they shall not escape though they may possess much wealth. The weaknesses of abstention and evasion of jihad are regarded by Allah as one of the major sins, and one of the seven sins that guarantee failure. The Qur’an on Jihad ‘Jihad is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike something which is good for you and that you like something which is bad for you. Allah knows but you do not know.’ (Surat-al-Baqarah (2), ayah 216) ‘O you who believe! Be not like those who disbelieve (hypocrites) and who say to their brethren when they travel through the earth or go out to fight: 'If they had stayed with us, they would not have died or been killed,' so that Allah may make it a cause of regret in their hearts. It is Allah that gives life and causes death. And Allah is All-Seer of what you do. And if you are killed or die in the Way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all that they amass (of worldly wealth etc.). And whether you die, or are killed, verily, unto Allah you shall be gathered.’ (Surat-aal-Imran (3), ayah 156-158) Notice how "forgiveness" and "mercy" are associated with slaying and death in Allah's way in the first verse, and how the second verse is does not refer to this because it is devoid of the idea of jihad. In this verse, there is an indication of the fact that cowardice is one of the characteristics of unbelievers, but not of believers. And notice how today the unbelievers seem to be brave and the believers seem to be the cowards. ‘Think not of those who are killed in the Way of Allah as dead. Nay, they are alive, with their Lord, and they have provision. They rejoice in what Allah has bestowed upon them of His Bounty, rejoicing for the sake of those who have not yet joined them, but are left behind (not yet martyred) that on them no fear shall come, nor shall they grieve.’ (Surat-aal-Imran (3), ayah 169-170). Refer up to verse 175 for further information. ‘Let those (believers) who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter fight in the cause of Allah., and whosoever fights in the Cause of Allah, and is killed or is victorious, We shall bestow on him a great reward.’ (Surat-an-Nisaa’ (4), ayah 74) Refer to the verses (4: 71-78) in the Noble Book to understand how Allah urges the Muslims to remain alert and to acquire experience in warfare, in armies and troops, or as individuals, as circumstances may dictate. Allah also reprimands those who are slack, cowards or opportunists, and He arouses our zeal to protect the weak and prevent oppression. Notice how Allah associates warfare with prayer and fasting, establishing it as one of the pillars of Islam. And how He refutes the false arguments of the waverers, and encourages those who are scared to the utmost degree to plunge into battle and to face death unflinchingly and bravely, showing them that they will welcome death, and that if they die in jihad, they will receive the most magnificent recompense for their lives, and that they will not lose any of their contribution or sacrifice however small. Surat-al-Anfaal is in its entirety an exhortation to jihad and a command to remain steadfast [while engaged] in it, as well as a clear presentation of many of its rules. It is for this reason that the first Muslims (may Allah's grace be upon them) adopted it as a war chant which they would chant whenever their apprehensions mounted and the battle grew grim. Suffice it to quote what Allah (SWT) says: ‘Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies.’ (Surat-al-Anfaal (8), ayah 60) up to His words (SWT): ‘O Prophet! Urge the believers to fight. If there are twenty steadfast amongst you, they will overcome two hundred, and if there are be a hundred steadfast they will overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they (they disbelievers) are people who do not understand’ (Surat-al-Anfaal (8), ayah 65) Surat-at-Tawbah too is in its entirety an exhortation to combat and a clear presentation of its rules. It is sufficient to quote what Allah (SWT) says concerning warfare against the treacherous polytheists: ‘Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and return calmness in the hearts of the believing people thus relieving their anxiety. Allah accepts the repentance of whom He wills. Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.’ (Surat-at-Tawbah (9), ayah 14-15) And His words (SWT) concerning fighting with People of the Book: ‘Fight against those who believe not in Allah nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger and those who acknowledge not the Religion of Truth (i.e. Islam), from among the People of the Book, until they pay the jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.’ (Surat-at-Tawbah (9), ayah 29) The proclamations of the general call in the following verses, end with His words (SWT): ‘March forth, (whether equipped) lightly or heavily, and strive hard with your wealth and your lives in the Cause of Allah! This is better for you, if you but knew.’ (Surat-at-Tawbah (9), ayah 41) Allah then rebukes those who are cowardly for their attitude and their continuous attempts to escape from jihad, in His words (SWT): ‘Those who stayed away (from Tabuk expedition) rejoiced in their staying behind the Messenger of Allah; they hated to strive and fight with their wealth and their lives in the Cause of Allah, and they said, 'March not forth in the heat.' Say: 'The fire of Hell is more intense in heat,' if only they could understand!' So let them laugh a little (and they will) cry much as a recompense of what they used to earn (by committing sins). If Allah brings you back to a party of them, and they ask your permission to go out (to fight), say: 'Never shall you go out with me, nor fight an enemy with me: you agreed to sit inactive on the first occasion: then you sit (now) with those who lag behind.’ (Surat-at-Tawbah (9), ayah 81-83) Then Allah praises those who engage in jihad by declaring jihad as Prophet Muhammad's mission and the way of his Companions, as He, the Almighty, says: ‘But the Messenger, and those who believed with him, strove hard and fought with their wealth and their lives (in Allah's cause). The good things are for these people, and it is they who will be successful. For them Allah has got ready the Gardens (Paradise) under which rivers flow, to dwell therein forever. That is the supreme success.’ (Surat-at-Tawbah (9), ayah 88-89) regards.......... |
#14
|
||||
|
||||
SALAMS,
Am not enough intelligent and authorized to talk about issue of "jihad' but would just like to share something on ur mufti's answers. I was nearlly fainted when i read "ISLAM ALLOWS KILLING OF A MUSLIM FOR SAKE OF REACHING INFIDLES...." i dont know wether mufti has ever studied Tafseers of Quran, as for as Quran is concerned It even doesnt allow the killing of a "HUMAN BEING" Quran says "if one kills a human it is equal to the killing of entire humanity" Above mentioned verse is so common amongst us, even children know that. How a mufti can claim that Killing of muslim is allowed.....????? i would like to advice u not to believe any thing illogical, or unreasonable. Do research my friend...... otherwise u would also be sitting in a car with ammunition....... (MAY ALLAH NOT DO SO>>) |
#15
|
||||
|
||||
Asslamualikum,
Dear Diploma holder, The holy verse of the holy Qur'an that you have mentioned, " The killing of single human being is the carnage of whole humanity". I am really sorry to say that even you have not understood jihad. Let me ask if you people are against of killing someone who tries to convert u to christianity, invade ur territory, undo ur islamic Govt, make the fun of your prophet etc. If you the know the above verse correct then you should know this verse as well, " ONE WHO RESEMBLES ANY GANG OR PARTY ON THE DAY OF JUDGMENT HE WILL BE ORDERED TO STAND WITH THE SAME PARTY". Regards. |
#16
|
||||
|
||||
wasalam,
I would like to ask is this the only option of jehad left for us?? and and u say a country invades ur islamic gov??? My friend i remind u they didnt start the war, Afghanistan was calm after USSR flee, but our people went and attacked their public places. if u smash planes into WTC, u will pay the price. Does islam allow u to smash planes in building where numerous innocent people r killed??? is this u call jehad..? u know Prophet s.a.w. never started war they always defended. and Who is paying the price for so called the jihadi act of Usama?????? Does a leader suddenly attack enemy and run away, leaving his nation to pay the bloody price for attck? is this u call a jehadi leader?? A leader never hides.... my friend specially when nation needs him |
#17
|
||||
|
||||
i would like to add one more thing .... if we are talking about jihad then HIZBULLAH and MUQTADA SADAR are the only ones doing jihad.
|
#18
|
||||
|
||||
Asslamualaikum,
What a harsh reply, my dear brother, next time i will be very much carefull, not reckless regarding my posts. I am sure i will not have recieved such harsh words even from non-muslims. But i m sorry that the aspirants who have the knowledge regarding Islam have not answered me in my this post. If i have hurt ur sentiments i want to apologise. You will never see such a post from my side, because it hurts ur feelings.. Truth, Truth and only Truth. Regards,,,, Last edited by Princess Royal; Friday, May 02, 2008 at 02:19 PM. |
#19
|
||||
|
||||
@Naqeebullah
salams, My dear naqeeb, i am relly sorry my words hurt u, but u must share ur idea with us. u have always put good questions on.. so please keep it on, i again apologize for that.... i know u would forgive me and carry on.... i accept my mistake of becoming too cynical. look forwrad to ur reply Thanx and Hope..... @Sadat salams, You mentioned muqtada al sadr and Hizbullah are doing reall jihad.... what is ur idea about Hamas? are they not doing the sacred act????? Last edited by Princess Royal; Friday, May 02, 2008 at 02:52 PM. |
#20
|
||||
|
||||
@ Diploma Holder Khoso
WS brother ... mistakes on my part but they sure are doing Jihad the reason for mentioning the names of Hizbullah and Muqtada Al Sadar was that they are doing Jihad openly , Hamas is also doing so (but its not so strong as Hizbullah is)... suicide attacks should be the last option. |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
All about Suicidal Bombing | Sureshlasi | News & Articles | 5 | Saturday, September 20, 2008 03:54 PM |
Suicide Attack And Muslim View | fahad269 | News & Articles | 2 | Monday, April 07, 2008 04:34 PM |
Reasons behind peacelessness in Muslim society | maria khan | Current Affairs | 2 | Sunday, April 09, 2006 06:13 PM |
Bi standards of West, freedom of speech | Syed Ali Haider | Current Affairs | 3 | Friday, April 07, 2006 01:02 PM |