Mushraf is indictable on charges of treason as per article six of constitution of 1973
I strongly disagree with this notion.Not only mushraf but any who commited the act of treason ,directly or indirectly, must face the music other wise door of intervention in democratic process will remain opened for dictators.

Yes ,It is impractible because
is main kuch parda nasheenoo kay bhee naam atay hain
For example the incumbbant chief justice aided the dictator by providing him a judicial back up and unjustfiebly authorising him to amend the constitution.Does he possess the courage of self trial.??? answer is obvious No.
But ,idealy, it must be done.An indiscriminate trial is pre-requsite to ensure smooth funtioning of democratic process.Every one ,right from Justice Muneer Ahamd and Ghulam Muhammad to Mushraf and Dogar must be awarded the capital punishment as envisaged under artcle 6 of constitution of pakistan.In UK ,a deceased General was hanged by the order of court on charges of sedition.This example must be followed.

Mushraf may be a good leader in eyes of many but being a good leader and commiting an offence are two differnt acts.No one ,including a good leader , must not be out of realam of law.Mushraf as betrayed his oath and a sacred document of constitution.To ensre the supermacy of law,he must be brought to the book irrepective of his good qualities

SO DIN CHOR KE AIK DIN KOTWAL KA. I think there must bet trail not even Gen. Mushraf but also his all Coleagues (Q-League) and army personnel. Even though there is no benefit for the nation in this trial but "JIN K BETE MAARE HAIN, LAPATA HAIN, LAL MASJID WALEY" there must be some relief for them

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Well "Musharaf trial" is a very hot issue now-a-days. Like all other people, I too have my opinion about this case that i m going to disclose. To me, First of all we should take this time as "golden opportunity" for accountability of not only musharaf but all other players of his type. U know we can get relief from any disease only when doctor identifies its root cause and then makes treatement. In the same way, we as a nation are suffering from some really harmful diseases those could only be survived if the root cause is identified & treated accordingly. So, i would request all my frnds who say that its not time for musharaf's trial to revise thier thinking bcose its the most suitable time ever in our history to get rid of these diseases. History proves that presence of accountability always prevents rulers from making unlawful activities. So, all of my dears! Go ahead and let all such politicians & rulers not to play with destinies of our innocent people.

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dear its very simple to trial former general if and only if our politicians are sincere to their job.but unfortunately each party has its own reservations:
for example,

PPP has issue of NRO,US diplomatic pressure.and establishment nod(necessary).

PML-N succumbs very easily to US pressure(governor rule example i.e they did not form coalition government with UNIFICATION BLOCK at the behest of US),Saudi relations.

PML-Q still waiting for the next COO(two trucks and one jeep =shujaat fomula).

MQM- nunmber 1 beneficiary of NRO.

JUI-F fair weather friends.

ANP- may support to some extent.

PTI- always out of control.

this is the situation of 95% of our house that can take any action.

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Dear Saleeqa, no Army Chief either serving or former, can be tried in any court of law except the Military Courts. Also Musharraf was no traitor but a patriotic modern Pakistani leader how was greatly inspired by the Attaturk.

You are miserably mistaken here brother. The Lal Masjid Waley Hooligans were all ignorant fascists and terrorists. The real heroes were our Army commandos who gave their lives to establish the writ of the state and security of peaceful citizens. Lets call spade a spade.

We are educated people here so let the common sense prevail not the common sentiment of the illiterate and backward majority sensationalized by the corporate media.

I am just presenting my opinion here. Please don't get offended and feel free to disagree.

regards,
floydian

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@floydian

Dear nice to hear your point of view. but the thing i s that we (Pakistani) are very well known nation to be trapped on the International Propaganda.We all have sympathy for others but didnt care for our relation.
"Agar aik Ghar mai aik beta harab ho jaye to kia ghar waley use jan se hi mar de ge k samjhaye ge agr phir b baaz na aye to punish karein ge ya ghar se nikal de ge.Hum logo ne tarekh raqam ki hai apno ko sire hi se hatam karne ki. "We have started the history to sale our bro's and sis. What about Dr Afia Sadique .is she terrorist?

Dear a simple answer to all this is we are all as a nation and individual have our own benifits and prefer our benifits to other countries. Bus AMEEN AMEEN kehne ki adat hai humain.
We never even try to "SIR UTHA K JIYO". i request you all to admit that we committed wrong not to justify this as per Euorope and USA plan.



Dont need to mind any thing



Regrads

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Brother Saqib, you are going far away from the topic of this thread. In addition to that your arguments make no sense at all to me.

regards,
floydian

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@ Dear floydian

Its ok. Leave this. I am So Sorry

Regards

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Well, a very tingly issue. First of all I agree totally to Floydian
as Floydian said,
he cannot be tried for a "Military Coup d'tat" (12 Oct 99) under the civil court as for him Military Court is relevant.

Now the question is : About the legitimacy at that time to intervene directly into the millitary affairs of the country without notifying the Millitary command and control, and finally announcing and putting the rank and transfering the COAS command to his own candidate Lt. Gen. Ziauddin Butt (the ISI boss-that time). Was it legal?
And that too when Musharraf was on an official tour to Srilanka and the plane was forbidden to land even on the country whose millitary commander was in Air.

On top of that, another violation, the pilot and crewof the plane was given instructions to land in India. What a pride it would have been for Pakistan, if this has happend or the other alternative was if India would have not allowed landing or emergency landing, then crash would have happened!

So first of all this has to be solved, then comes the question of the political situation in the country, how booming was it at the that time?

Thirdly, why did the political parties, Supreme Court and the population did not stop and took action at that time? Rather they all welcomed it!


Finally, SC Chief Justice should be tried as well as he was the one to legalise the status of Musharaf. Will he be accepting his own mistake and give himself an appropriate punishment? He should be tried as well along with lot of other political leaders whether from PPP, PML(N)or (Q) or other parties for that matter.


The trial shouldnot be one sided but should include all current or previous faces. Normally once the party is in power always goes for the trails of the weaker ones for instance as Z.A.Bhutto was executed during Zia's regime. The issue of Musharraf's trial is important but the trials of other pre-Musharrafs or pro-Musharrafs and the current ruling parties etc should also be put to lime light.

i still maintain that musharf can be booked on the charges of treason by the court of law.Army courts were established during the regime of Ayub and Zia and were abolished afterwards.Now army ,like any other institution,maintains an internal disciplanary control system vested with the powers of convicting by various punishments including Court Marshal.Apart from this ,an army man is prosecuted normmaly as any other person of Pakistan ,if he commits a criminal offence.

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Now the question is : About the legitimacy at that time to intervene directly into the millitary affairs of the country without notifying the Millitary command and control, and finally announcing and putting the rank and transfering the COAS command to his own candidate Lt. Gen. Ziauddin Butt (the ISI boss-that time). Was it legal? [/qoute]

There is No constitunal or Legal bar on the elected prime minster to make changes in the higher ranks of army or any other Govt institution except some constitunaly protected offices like AGP,Chairman FPSC,Governer SBP,and CJP.An Army chief is a Grade 22 Officer reporting to Secretary Defence while Elected Prime minster is Head of Govt. with the mandate of people of pakistan.Army officers are constitunaly bound to obey PM but unfortunatly in Pakistan ,rule of might is right prevails over consititution .Even this action may not be appriciable ,but it was legal and constitunal.
No one konw about the factual position and circumstances prevailing that time,but i think an elected prime minister can not take a risk to let the aeroplane crash.Again ,this action may not be appriciable but its legal validity is unquestionable so the army leadership was bound to obey .

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