A.O.A.....Dear members
Can any 1 predict what would be the Future.. Are we moving toward catastrophe or the events are directing us to the Revolution.
What do you think....

Regards

lets not prdict lets work n hope n pray....
revolution is utopian state.Pakistan's biggest dilemma is its nation.are we a good nation?everybody should ask himself.but if the answer is in negative its not to be dejected but to be active.countries has come out f worst of thier crisis on the strenght of thier nations.Pakistan has weathered worst of crisis in the past.but today i the only day perhaps when the motherland needs us most.we need to set a national goal,a national preference then a common effort for that goal.

coming to the question whether we are going to be annihilated r resurfaced yet to bring a revolution: we must be ready for the fact that things are not going to get better in near future unless He want n we pray for His mercy,but what we need to focus on is the way to prevent the things going worst.nothing will happen to Pakistan till its nation is alive.we need to work hard,devotion,patriotism n Faith.regards

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No, the way i see it, we are heading for a revolution. Its inevitable, and its necessary. We are a nation of buffoons, who cannot do any better without a 'danda' or 'bambooing'. We are the sort of people who board an international PIA flight and litter everywhere, treat the crew as paid-for servants- oh but the moment we travel on foreign carriers, we sit there the whole time as if something is stuck up. Just goes to say how much we need the danda. Once a teacher of mine had said that nations change as a result of either Evolution or Revolutions. I had differed with him and contended that there is no such thing as an evolutionary process- instead a revoultion has to precede further evolution.

And I see a revolution ahead of us because we are a nation desperate for change, and we certainly have the aggression needed for it. Now the only thing missing is a leader to instill the passion for progress in the nation. In time, Inshallah, we can and we will find one.

would you please elaborate a brief sketch of revolution on what lines it would be take place.what kind of revolution it would be? violent or peaceful and what would be the new structure of pakistan...

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may we know sir what ,at the moment in our nation, made you believe that the situation is ripe for a revolution?are you trying to say aomething like"EVERY BAD IS ON ITS PEAK SO NOW NO MORE BAD CAN HAPPEN"
everybody needs a chnge,a positive change,but bare optimism is not going to bring it.our nation has always been exploited by the politicians n every dominent factor in our society whose policy has never been so different.they creat a worst situation,then first findfaults with the masses,throw them into guilt,then flatter them in name f nationalism,patriotism n religion.ask for generous donations from them n some more sacrifices n then relapse into silence.....
sorry its getting lengthy.its hard to stop from lamenting on the pains of motherland n the ppl.
hope for the best,be optimistic and do your duty.regards

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Gladly. Revolutions tend to take place on either of the two lines, as history is a witness to- Religious/social or Economic/social. Religious/social one has been seen in Iran and on economic grounds Cuban and French are an example. The similarity between the two is a social change as well, which is a natural by-product of economic uniformity or religious awakening.

Now personally, I do not favor a revolution on religious basis, specially in case of Pakistan which is no less than a boiling cauldron of all kinds of sects and religious confusion. It worked fine in Iran where there is religious homogenity, but it will turn out to be disastrous for Pakistan. Imagine the kind of insurgencies and riots occuring simply because nobody agrees with anybody, and although the revolution may have been sparked by the unified forces of revolution but later segmented into various factions. Only a miraculous presence of the Mahdi and Hazrat Isa (as) can simmer it down to nothing but short of that, I feel, a revolution on economic grounds would be much more suited to Pakistan also because our problem does not lie in forgetting religion(infact we have a problem of overdoing it) but we have a dilemma wrt economic/social differences. When this happens, automatically the feudals will be wiped out, so will the politicians and corrupt bureaucrats/military officers. I am not proposing a strictly communist philosophy, but a more subtle socialist ideology.

Now the question of what sort of tone the revolution may carry? See, in order to wipe out the corrupt element from the society, we will have to make a dreadful, unforgettable example of the element in question. We wont want such people to rise up ever again, for which it will become essential to not only hang them on public places like Teen talwar and Liberty chowk, but to give their families a similar treatment too- for it was also them who had either encouraged their fathers/sons/husbands to spread corruption or atleast were happily living in serenity with the idea. Revolutions are never peaceful-there is no such thing as a successful 'White revolution'. Revolutions succeed only when the element of fear is present among the people of the society. This fear has to prevail until the time when youve built a solid national character irrespective of the looming terror. As for those, who are innocent, they shall be untouched for the most part.

The new structure of Pakistan should be socialist in nature, where for the time being, ideas like freedom of the press, democracy and party politics do not exist. Although Im not a fan of Mustafa Kamal Ataturk's character, however he did bring alot of progress and development to Turkey (reforms in education, administration and military etc). He had said something like "The people of Turkey should leave politics alone for some time, while I should rule for the next 15-20 years, after which I shall think of giving them a little freedom". It was only during this period, when he was able to create meaningful reforms (not religious ones). This attitude is necessary so that external influences (read Western superpowers and other enemies of the state) do not use tools like media, judiciary and politicians to sabotage the movement (which will become very easy to do as is seen today). This also means the most powerful man of the revolution would be sitting at the helm of affairs- pointing to a dictatorship or oligarchy at best (which btw, I think is never the case for too long, as when Napolean took over the affairs of France or when Fidel Castro ruled supreme in Cuba). I assure you, that when an average man gets his fair share of the nation, when his safety and justice is ensured, and when all his needs are met, he will not give two hoots about what party is ruling the country or whether someone cant stand on a rostrum and speak against the regime.

The above is a sketch of how I see a revolution happening. I havent given you a sketch of how it 'could' be. Thats because revolutions are brought by people like you and me. It is us who will have to decide whether we plunge forward for sacrifice or we decide to take an express route to foreign immigration.



Regards,

Yeah sure, but first its a madam here . Anyways, the situation is not ripe for a revolution right now, however, this will take another 10-15 years before a climate conducive for a revolution will be created. I dont claim that it would be a joyous ride, as you seem to have presumed. In fact, it will be a turbulent one full of more atrocities, throw in a foreign invasion or so, economic sanctions, war, famine and drought. In short 'abhi buhat rona dhona baaki hai hamaare liye'. Because when such things will happen, only then will some people break their shackles.

The question is..... Are YOU ready for it?

As for me, cant wait for my country to rise out of ashes towards a righteous path, but first!

sorry ma'm
no pain no gain.but pain should be of wok not of the silent,vulnerable suffering at hands of the oppressor.Regards

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I dont see any revolution in near future, cuz there are forces who know that they will be loser if any revolution takes place in pakistan, so they interfare timly and diffuse the situation to keep the "status quo"
Remember March 16 last year ?

@aphrodite..I agree with you the conditions surrounded us are ripped for revolution. Masses are despairely waiting to hail any revolutionary force .The biggest political parties of the Pakistan PMLN, PMLQ and PPP have failed to meet the aspiration of common men. Only the first time in the history we are in a position to state something clearly about the future of the country. But according to the nature and type of the revolution i disagree a little bit from you. Our ground realities are some what different from other countries. Because of two factors, one is national and other is of International.
Pakistan is a nuclear power. Internationally, any change taking place in the current political system of the country would owe to international community unrest. And will provide a “Just” cause to Indian and American Invasion on Pakistan.
2ndly at national level we have an Army, well equipped, well organize . Army would interfere in any such attempt which would aim to change her current status from the national Scenario.
Turkish model of revolution was successful at that time because Turkish Army was organized under the command of Kamal Ataturk. And Army acted as a revolutionary force not as a counter revolutionary. In Pakistan Pak Army is not much repudiated. Although it is the second institution after parliament that has national representation across the country. But Baluchistan, Sindh and tribal areas have an apathy with Army. On the other hand Army always has played a counter-revolutionary role in the national Politics. No renounce Intellectual is in the favor of Army.
According to my views revolution will be nationalistic. A nationalistic revolutionary party or power will rise to power.Religion and culture both will play role in it. But it doesn't mean orthodox elements of religion and culture would raise the banner of Revolution. Not at all. Feudal culture and terrorist "Islam" both are incapable of this mighty task. Youth is revolting from the religious and cultural norms. They have not the capacity to attract youth.
What I suggest is the reformation and revolution both should march hands in hands toward a new dawn.Reformation of the culture and religion is taking place these days although this development is slow but with the passage of time it would be fast. And finally the people will revolt from their orthodox faith of Religion and Culture. For most it would be a revolt from ISLAM. But for me it’s a return toward the original purity of Islam.
Before moving further I want to make clear two ideas. Revolution in Pakistan can be of two types. First, Violent/Second, Peace full or less violent. First type is impossible because of above described two factors. i.e American and Indian invasion if quo status changed with a violent force. And heavy resistance of army. Second type is most suitable.In this type reformative phase would be start first, weaken the current political, social and economic system.In this phase nationalist revolutionary forces will become stronger and prepare themselves for the final fight of revolution. Elements from the counter revolutionary forces will be make less efficient. Their activities will be monitored and plans will be device to get rid of them.That is the place from where the strategic work of the revolution will be start. The nationalist power would have to pursue a foreign policy of neutralism in the world affairs. So that the international community would become less intrusted in Pakistani Affairs. If I state this policy in one line it would be. “say NO to USA say no to Taliban And say yes to Pakistan”.
The next steps cannot be predicted now. It would be possible only then to analyse situation and device strategy for a forward march of revolution.
Now come the nature of newly form government. It would be Nationalistic. Economic and political structure of the state is Public private ownership and spiritual democracy respectively. Religion would be reformed. I don't mean that Divine principles will be changed. What I mean that a new Fiqah will be encode by the Parliament by keeping infront the challenges of 21st century. That was the dream of Iqbal also.Democracy and freedom will be grant to all irrespective of their cast and faith. The concept of minorities will be abolished and as a citizens of Pakistani nation all would be equal.
It’s a brief sketch of nature, type and strategy of revolution as i perceive.
Regards

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