Strategic dialogues b/w Pakistan and America

[Nek Muhammad]

What do you think; will there be any positive out come of these dialogues??

please share your opinion...

[xavier]

According to my point of view or what do i think, there will not be great outcomes from the meeting, except a safe exit for americans from Afghanistan
I think Americans will try to keep Pakistan Army busy in Afghanistan because they came to know that, they are not succeeded and at this time when they have to compete with China who is a great threat for americans
So i think there will not a break through which will change the american's policy regarding Pakistan

[rose_pak]

Originally Posted by Nek Muhammad

What do you think; will there be any positive out come of these dialogues??

please share your opinion...

US PAKISTAN Strategic dialogue Agenda

It is not clear what agenda would be for US PAK SD which are being conducted in Washington today. However Washington post and some of the newspapers in Pakistan as well have spread some speculations for SD. I list below the possible agenda items.

US PAK RELATIONS

=> US is trying to win hearts and minds of people of pakistan. So a strategy for people to people enteraction would be discussed so that the anti-americanism would be eliminated.
=> The issue of scutiny (Body scanning) of Pak nationals at US airports.

ENERGY SECTOR

=> Pak will persue US to finance formers at least 20 energy project costing $ 6 billion.
=> IPI would be discussed, most probably.

FINANCE SECTOR

=> Probably issues related to edonomic and military aid would be discussed and Pak will try to get the aid increased.
=> Fast flow of Kerry Lugar money

SECURITY

=> Pak will try to get drones to combate terrorism in pakistan.

AFGHANISTAN

=> Making sure that Pak is including in any dialogue with Taliban.
=> Pak will train Afghanistan security personal.
=> Indian involvment in Afghanistan.

PAK INDO ISSUES

=> Water issue

NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY

=> Pak will try to get same Nuclear technology as India got from US.

This is a list what I think would be discussed however we will know what is being being discussed today.

[xavier]

Rose Pak
Although your points are valid and that is the agenda of the strategic dialouge but one question arises here that when US is busy in back door talks with Iran will they finance Pakistan for IPI and energy sectors????

[rose_pak]

Originally Posted by xavier

Rose Pak
Although your points are valid and that is the agenda of the strategic dialouge but one question arises here that when US is busy in back door talks with Iran will they finance Pakistan for IPI and energy sectors????

I do not think US will finance IPI, however it can be realized that US don't want IPI to be completed. On the other hand Pakistan really needs that project. So talks may be underway to let Pakistan a "GO" from US. In that case, if US agrees, any big international donor can invest in IPI.

Complete discussion information may be available tomorrow however it was in todays paper that US agreed to finance $ 125 million for energy and water plant projects.

I think this is like "UNT KE MONH MAEN ZEERA"

[xavier]

Originally Posted by rose_pak

I do not think US will finance IPI, however it can be realized that US don't want IPI to be completed. On the other hand Pakistan really needs that project. So talks may be underway to let Pakistan a "GO" from US. In that case, if US agrees, any big international donor can invest in IPI.

Complete discussion information may be available tomorrow however it was in todays paper that US agreed to finance $ 125 million for energy and water plant projects.

I think this is like "UNT KE MONH MAEN ZEERA"

I agree that US will not support the IPI project but if we think and saw very responsible comments from evey side that IPI will be very expensive project and even SGSC announced that if they will go for IPI they will charge 5 rupees in excess on each unit in some areas of the country!!!!!
Your comments are welcomed

[rose_pak]

Originally Posted by xavier

I agree that US will not support the IPI project but if we think and saw very responsible comments from evey side that IPI will be very expensive project and even SGSC announced that if they will go for IPI they will charge 5 rupees in excess on each unit in some areas of the country!!!!!
Your comments are welcomed

You are absolutely right. Keeping in mind the current situation IPI project is no doubt high cost but still have significance for the country.

There are two factors.

1. Project cost is high (the cost will be getting higher and higher with the time passing on)

2. Gas is costly (Need to negotiate the prices)

On the other hand if we explore our own resources it would be most worthy then begging from others.
You will be astonished that we have:
1. 175 billion ton of coal (Experts say that by using only 30% of this would fulfill our energy needs for 40 years)

2. 19 trillion cubic feet of gas (In Balochistan only)

3. 6 trillion barrels of oil (in Balochistan only)

Summing up, we are not poor but kept poor

[xavier]

Originally Posted by rose_pak

You are absolutely right. Keeping in mind the current situation IPI project is no doubt high cost but still have significance for the country.

There are two factors.

1. Project cost is high (the cost will be getting higher and higher with the time passing on)

2. Gas is costly (Need to negotiate the prices)

On the other hand if we explore our own resources it would be most worthy then begging from others.
You will be astonished that we have:
1. 175 billion ton of coal (Experts say that by using only 30% of this would fulfill our energy needs for 40 years)

2. 19 trillion cubic feet of gas (In Balochistan only)

3. 6 trillion barrels of oil (in Balochistan only)

Summing up, we are not poor but kept poor

Yes that is true, but you did not indicate THAR RESERVE which are equal to Saudi's and Iran's reserve kept together but every time we are hopeless because Multi-national firms are working in THAR on reserve and getting 80% and giving 20% to Sindh governmnet. You are right, "We are rich but kept poor"

[rose_pak]

Originally Posted by xavier

Yes that is true, but you did not indicate THAR RESERVE which are equal to Saudi's and Iran's reserve kept together but every time we are hopeless because Multi-national firms are working in THAR on reserve and getting 80% and giving 20% to Sindh governmnet. You are right, "We are rich but kept poor"

Dear xavier

Thanks for indication. I only knew the exact figures of above reserves so I added. Could you plz post the quantity of the THAR reserves.