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@ Raz
I am agreed with you comments. Agar aap kuch khas terms ko inverted commas me kar daitey to ziada acha hota. Because some may take it in litteral meaning especially those who don't know background of you comments.
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situarion is so cryptic n obscure,...it seems like everybody know the cause but nobody is willing to do or say anything......on media, in interviews we get an idea that things r not that unknown to the authorities n people concerned....but they seem helpless.......can anybody tell y this helplessness is prevailing amid dozen of innocent people dying on roads??
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@Raz
Wow, Wow, it looks like GM Syed has jumped right out from his grave! If this refers to the non-feasibility of Pakistan, I want to know if you're serious in advocating that point-of-view?
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@raz
"jo ho raha hy bahut khoob ho raha hy aj. Quaid ny ghalati jo ki thee itni bari to aj saza to milni hy na. Quaid ky city ko jalna he chahee itnee bare tarekhi ghalati ky bad."
I cant expet such a remark from you.
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Yes, you are right, most of us do not know the "backgroud" of these comments. Could you please share about this "backgroud".
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look at this is the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_Bo6...layer_embedded we what are they considering themselves.100 people are killed and media sayes :Karachi main 100 bando ki halakat jin main 5 bandy MQM k thy whats this ye kia baywakoof ye baki 95 bandy kon thy kisi ny pocha.per president sahab call karty hain RAhman malik sahab ko per call jati hay ALtaf sahab ko or tazeyat hoti hy 5 karkunan ki shahadat ki Kia baki log pakistani nahi thy. socho socho Last edited by Silent.Volcano; Thursday, October 21, 2010 at 03:53 PM. Reason: Posts merged |
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a poem for people involved in target killing in Karachi.....
this poem origionally was for Martial Law administrators... but now it is fits upon todays karachi situation..... Bachchon pe chali goli Maan dekh ke yeh boli Yeh dil ke mere tukde Yun royen mere hote Mein dur khadi dekhoon Yeh mujh se nahin hoga Mein Dur khadi dekhun Aur ahl-e sitam khelen Khun se mere bachchon ke Din-raat yahan holi Bachchon pe chali goli Maan dekh ke yeh boli Yeh dil ke mere tukde Yun royen mere hote Mein dur khadi dekhun Yeh mujh se nahin hoga Meidan mein nikal aayi Ek barq si lehrai Har dast-e sitam kanpa Bandooq bhi tharrai Har simt sada gunji Mein aati hun, mein aayee Mein aati hun, mein aayee Har zulm hua batil Aur seham gaye qatil Jab us ne zaban kholi Bachchon pe chali goli Us ne kaha khun-khwaro! Daulat ke parastaro Dharti hai yeh ham sab ki Is dharti ko naa-dano! Angrezon ke darbano! Sahab ki ata-kardah Jagir na tum jano Is zulm se baaz aao Bairak mein chale jao Kyon chand luteron ki Phirte ho liye toli Bachchon pe chali goli
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@ Mao Zedong
Senior Fellow Member Raz is in a better position to explain the background of his comments. What I perceived is:
Once addressing in a seminar in New Delhi MQM chief called division of subcontinent (Creation of Pakistan) "The greatest blunder of the history of mankind". Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWAj7Awj2ks I think Raz is pointing toward this. This is my perception, It may be wrong.
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Why Karachi is bleeding
By Farrukh Saleem ISLAMABAD: Karachi’s Pashtun population stands anywhere from a low of 4 million to a high of 6 million; that’s some 25 percent of Karachi’s residents and around 15 percent of the entire population of Sindh. Karachi’s Muhajir population, residents who identify themselves as Urdu speaking, stands anywhere from a low of 7 million to a high of 9 million; that’s some 45 percent of Karachi’s residents and around 23 percent of the entire population of Sindh. Of the 168 seats in the Sindh Assembly, ANP has 2, MQM 50, NPP 3, PML(F) 8, PML(Q) 11 and PPP 93. Based on demographics, the Pashtuns of Karachi could have up to 25 seats in the provincial legislature — but they have two. That is political power way out of sync with demographic realties. Additionally, PPP’s provincial stake in Karachi is limited to half a dozen seats but that is the party that rules the province. In essence, the PPP designs and forms the system of governance in Sindh, but most of PPP’s political interests actually lie outside of Karachi. State security is directly dependent on two factors: population dynamics and grouppopulation ratios. To be certain, Karachi’s system of governance has long ignored migration and settlement patterns. And, the consequence of that ignorance is now for all of us to see — a serious societal breakdown leading to even more serious conflict. Karachi is the 3rd most populous city on the face of the planet, after Shanghai and Mumbai (according to the ‘city proper’ concept). Karachi is big and has all the problems that all big cities have — plus some more. To be sure, the primary driver behind the current mayhem is political in nature. Secondary drivers include sectarianism, ethnic rivalry, criminal gangs, drug mafia, land mafia, other criminal elements and a powerful weapons mafia. Shanghai and Mumbai also have criminal gangs but it’s the political leadership of those cities that keeps societal fabric from breaking down. When political governance is unable to provide personal security and economic security along with justice to its constituents, all sorts of non-state actors move in to enrich themselves from this lack of governance. Shanghai and Mumbai also have mafias but the political leadership has over the years built up administrative capacity to counter the power of those powerful mafias. Karachi’s administrative capacity, on the other hand, has long been subjected to patronage, nepotism and cronyism. There is empirical evidence that fast changing group population ratios threaten state security. Muhajirs have long been a majority in Karachi and the MQM has long kept Karachi in its rather strong embrace. Over the past decade, Muhajir majority has faced a growing Pashtun minority but Karachi’s political infrastructure has failed to accommodate the new population dynamics. Karachi is the hand that feeds Pakistan. Karachi is the source of 53 percent of total collections by the FBR (Federal Board of Revenue), 33 percent of federal excise taxes and 23 percent of countrywide sales tax. Karachi has 30 percent of Pakistan’s manufacturing sector and Karachi generates 20 percent of Pakistan’s GDP. Karachi is witnessing political violence like never before and under that umbrella it is suffering from ethnic, sectarian, criminal and mafia-induced violence. Fish, it is said, stinks from the head downwards. Stabilising Karachi, therefore, means resolving political violence as the first step followed up by building administrative capacity (followed by de-weaponisation). Political power should not be allowed to stay out of sync with demographics.
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Poem: Karachi- Wrapped up in Violence
Wrapped up in violence,
This city of mine and yours In Edhi and Chippa ambulances The bodies and its remains Wrapped up in darkness The city and its lights As its screams go unheard As the dead search for their graves Wrapped up in innocence The old days of its grandeur The horrors too painful To bear and to part with As our young and old Fall one after another Some too young to remember The old days and its glory And some too old to forget The mayhem created In the name of democracy As violence rules this place Wrapped up in violence, This city of mine and yours.... Only alien to these crimes The political elite, The so called responsible Shifting blames From one end to other Wrapped up in these games All with their stakes As the shots are fired As death roams in its streets The people, out and about In search for their lives As their screams go unheard Wrapped up in violence, This city of mine and yours... Only the alien, to this The parties responsible Wrapped up in blame Through statements Through TV appearances Through behind doors As the blood runs through As the clock and count never stops Wrapped up in violence, This city of mine and yours.... The shameful acts committed The offers to make more Through death and violence Money to the dead and injured As they hand out through words As the dead search for their graves Wrapped up in silence, The old songs of devotion Wrapped up in grief The old moments of joy Wrapped up in sorrow The old days of freedom Wrapped up in Edhi and Chippa Our conscience of tomorrow As the dead search for their graves By: Asim Khan
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