A tragic incident, may God rest his soul in peace, he was a Human, then a muslim, then a governor of biggest province and well known businessman.

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Last night my brother sheeraz commented on my views, so i am sorry sheeraz if you are hurt from my words.

Again i am saying that i have no personals with him (gov) but i oppose his statement about Blasphemy law saying them KAALA qanoon.

brothers!
sisters!
mods!

Let us discuss the topic without any personal attacks.

Let us invite the Lawyers to see some thing about this law legally.

Let us invite our brothers/sisters who have grip over islamic knowledge to share authentic hadith.

Let us know the impacts of this law and this act of killing as well, longterm and short term impacts.

But keep in mind the role of Ghazi Alamdeen Shaheed and Amir Cheema shaheed,

whether Ghazi alamdeen shaheed was not justified for what he has done for the sake of the Prophet


Dear mods! Hope you will allow us to have a fruitful discussion on the topic

Pakistan Penal Code (Act XLV of 1860)

295-C. Use of derogatory remarks, etc., in respect of the Holy Prophet:

Whoever by words, either spoken or written, or by visible representation or by any imputation, innuendo, or insinuation, directly or indirectly, defiles the sacred name of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) shall be punished with death, or imprisonment for life, and shall also be liable to fine.

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Saad Qaisrani,

First of all dnt speak anything related to caste and remember you are also a baloch.Qadri did the most appropriate thing which he did SubhanAllah.Taseer supported Asia bibi (Murtid) who commited toheen-e-risalat and acquired the hatred and antagonism of Muslims.

I second you with this research

The Penalty For Insulting The Holy Prophet


Here I will quote what the great Imams and Muslim Scholars have said regarding such a person.

Shifa, Qadi Ayyad:

"There is a consensus that whoever insults the dignity of the Holy Prophet (Sall Allahu Alaihi wa Sallam), is an infidel. For him, there is a warning of Allah's punishment, and a person who doubts his infidelity and punishment, will also become an infidel." (Page 321)

Nasim al-Rayad, quotes from Imam ibn Hajar Makki: "A person insulting the honour of the Holy Prophet (Sall Allahu Alaihi wa Sallam) is an infidel and the person who doubts his infidelity is also an infidel. The same is the religion of our Imams etc." (Volume 4 Page 381)

Wajiz, Imam Kurdri: "If a person becomes an apostate (may Allah protect us), his wife becomes Haram to him. If he professes Islam again, a fresh marriage must be contracted between them. If a child is born as a result of cohabitation after infidelity, it will be illegitimate. If he recites the Kalama Shahada just by habit, it will be useless, unless he asks for repentance, because the recitation of the Kalama Shahada by an apostate merely as a habit, does not change his position of infidelity. Whoever speaks insulting words against the Holy Prophet (Sall Allahu Alaihi wa Sallam) or against any prophet, will be punished in this world even after repentance. He will not be pardoned even if he only speaks the words in a state of intoxication. All the Ulama are unanimous that a person insulting the dignity of the Holy Prophet (Sall Allahu Alaihi wa Sallam) is an infidel, and an infidel of such a type that one doubting his infidelity also becomes an infidel." (Volume 3, Page 321)
Fath al-Qadir: "One who bears malice in his heart against the Holy Prophet (Sall Allahu Alaihi wa Sallam) is an apostate, and ultimately those who insult are infidels of the meanest class. If he drank intoxicants willingly and uttered insolent words in that state, even then, he will not be pardoned." (Volume 4. Page 407)

Bahar al-Raiq: "This same is the decree for a person who insults any Prophet: he will not be pardoned. His repentance after proof will be of no use, because repentance of an apostate of his apostasy is only to escape punishment. The question of repentance arises only when it is permitted. Infidelity as a result of insulting the Holy Prophet (Sall Allahu Alaihi wa Sallam) and other Prophets is not of an ordinary type. There is no forgiveness at all in that case." (Volume 5. Page 135)

Durur al-Ahkam, Allama Mawla Khusraw: "If a Muslim insults the dignity of the Holy Prophet (Sall Allahu Alaihi wa Sallam) or other Prophets, he will not be pardoned at all. All the Ulama of the 'Umma are unanimous in the verdict that he is an infidel, and whoever doubts his infidelity, also becomes an infidel." (Volume 1. Page 299)

Ghuniyah Dhil-Ahkam: "Insulting the dignity of the Holy Prophet (Sall Allahu Alaihi wa Sallam) is not like infidelity of other types. There is a provision of acceptance of repentance for every kind of apostate, but this type of apostate gets no such forgiveness." (Page 301).

Al-Ishbah wan-Nazair, the Chapter on Apostasy: "Some people say that if someone commits an insult in the state of intoxication, he will not be charged with infidelity because he is drunk and incapable; nor shall he get the punishment for committing infidelity, but insulting the Holy Prophet (Sall Allahu Alaihi wa Sallam) is infidelity of such a degree that even if it is committed in the state of intoxication, it will not be pardoned. And the verdict on his apostasy is that his wife is removed from marriage to him at once. Even if he professes Islam once again, his wife will not establish her relations with him. If he dies in the state of apostasy, his dead body cannot be buried in the graveyard of the Muslims; nor can he be buried in the graveyard of the People of the Book. He should be thrown into a pit like a dog. The infidelity of an apostate is worse than the infidelity of a real infidel.

Some just Muslims may give evidence that a certain Muslim has become an apostate because of such and such words or actions, but if he rejects this charge, no one will argue with him, not because he said the just Muslim witnesses were liars, rather his denial will be taken as his repentance of this infidelity. Therefore, it will be judged from his denial of the evidence of just witnesses that he had become an apostate and now has repented of his grave sin. In the circumstances, he will be treated as one who has repented of apostasy i.e. all his work becomes fruitless and his wife remains no more married to him. However, he will not be given the rest of the punishment. Insulting the Holy Prophet (Sall Allahu Alaihi wa Sallam) is such a great act of infidelity that even after repentance, there is no relaxation; nor will those who insult other Prophets be pardoned."

Fatawa Khayriyah, Khayr al-Din Ramali: "The one who insults the Holy Prophet (Sall Allahu Alaihi wa Sallam) is an infidel. He deserves the same ruling that is meant for apostates. He will be treated like an apostate; he will get no pardon in this World. With the consensus of all the Ulama of the Umma, he is an-infidel and whoever doubts his infidelity, he, too, is an infidel" (Volume 1. Page 95)

Majma al-Anhar: "That being known as a Muslim, if you insult the Holy Prophet (Sall Allahu Alaihi wa Sallam) or any other Prophet even in a state of intoxication, you will get no pardon in this World after repentance, as in the case of an infidel or non-believer, because your repentance will not be accepted. And whoever doubts his infidelity, he, too, is an infidel." (Volume 1. Page 618)

Dhakharat al-Uqba, Allama Akhi Yusuf: "It is beyond doubt that the whole of the Umma is unanimous that one who slanders the Holy Prophet (Sall Allahu Alaihi wa Sallam) or other Prophets, is an infidel, whether he committed this act while considering it legitimate or illegitimate. He is an infidel in the opinion of the Ulama; and whoever doubts his infidelity is also an infidel." (Page 240)

"So, if such an insolent person dies, neither will his dead body be given a bath, nor a coffin, nor will a funeral prayer be offered. However, if he repents, begs pardon and denounces his act of infidelity and once again embraces Islam and then dies, in that case his dead body will be given a bath, coffin and after a funeral prayer will be buried in the graveyard of the Muslims etc." (Page 242)

Tanwir al-Absar, Shaykh al-Islam Abu Abd Allah Muhammad: "The Repentance of every apostate is accepted, but he who insults a Prophet is such an infidel that his repentance will not be accepted."

Durr al-Mukhtar: "That insulting a Prophet is such infidelity that it will not be pardoned, and if anybody doubts his infidelity and punishment, he will also become an infidel." Kitab al-Khiraj, Imam Abu Yusuf: "That if a Muslim abuses the Holy Prophet (Sall Allahu Alaihi wa Sallam), falsifies or speaks ill of him or degrades him, beyond doubt, he becomes an infidel and his wife will be taken out of marriage to him." (Page 112)

There is absolutely no doubt about the infidelity and apostasy of the above mentioned persons. However, if they beg for foregiveness with pure hearts, for the renewal of their Islam and the removal of restrictions on them, that will be granted. However, there is a difference of opinion as to whether an Islamic State, after their repentance and return to Islam shall award them lesser punishment or a death sentence.

The account of the subject given in Bazzaziyah and other reliable books about the non-acceptability of their repentance, also carries the same meaning, but there is no point in discussing this here. Islamic Rule and the death penalty do not apply today.

Hundreds of wicked, immoral, accursed and abominable Muslims of high standing, Islamic judges, preachers, teachers and important personalities nowadays speak, write and print derogatory remarks, but nobody is there to check them. If somebody does so, he, in the eyes of some so called civilized persons, is uncivil, uncultured and violent.

Look and observe the Signs of the Wrath of Allah Ta'ala, most Powerful and Honourable. Beware and keep in mind how the condition of many hearts can alter, be invited to change from a life of good deeds to a life of sin. Remember the power to do good and the power to stay away from sin is from no-one but Allah Ta'ala the most High and most Great. Soon the wicked will find out where they're going to, Hell! Allah Ta' ala knows all and everything." (Fatawa Rizwiyyah -Volume XI. Page 36)

The Reply of Imam Ahmad Raza Khan Barelvi (Rahmatullah Alaihi) "And say: "O my Lord! I seek refuge with You from the suggestions of the Evil ones." "And I seek refuge with You, O my Lord! Lest they should come near me." (Al-Qur'an, XXIII: 97-8) "But those who molest the Messenger will have a grievous penalty." (Al-Qur'an, K:61) "Those who annoy Allah and His Messenger, Allah has cursed them in This World and in the Hereafter, for them is a humiliating punishment." (Al-Qur'an, XXXIIT.57) "Behold! The curse of Allah is on those who do wrong." (Al-Qur'an, XI: 18)

Among these so called Muslims, whoever set this abominable paper is a pagan apostate; whoever checked it and kept the text intact is also an infidel apostate and he, under whose supervision it was prepared is also a pagan apostate. Among the students who were believers and translated the accursed passage, whether with the intention of insulting their Prophet (Sall Allahu Alaihi wa Sallam) or of degrading his position, or just to obtain more marks or to be certain of success in the examination, all of them are also infidel apostates, whether they are adults or minors.

All Muslims are obliged not to speak with them, mix with them socially, sit and chat with them, and must avoid visiting them if they are sick, attending their funerals, bathing their dead bodies, putting them in coffins, and must not offer funeral prayers for them, carry their biers, bury them in a Muslim graveyard and send any spiritual reward (thawab) to any person belonging to those four groups. Indeed, all of them are infidels and criminals in Islam. If any of them dies, his kith and kin and other Muslims, if they have faith in Islamic injunctions, should throw his dead body into a ditch, and in order to avoid its smell, they must fill the ditch with fire and stones. These commandments apply to all such persons. Their wives will be excluded from their matrimonial life. Then, if they perform any conjugal act, that will be unlawful and nothing but fornication. A child born of such intercourse will be illegitimate. The women of such persons have permission to marry other persons after the completion of the necessary waiting period (iddat). If any of these apostates gets divine guidance and repents his sinful action, and once again professes Islam, only in that case, will his death sentence be cancelled, but the rest of the punishment about his social contacts and relations with other Muslims, will continue until that time that his usual daily life reflects his sincere repentance and true regret and his actions reveal true Islam. Even then, the wife need not go back to her husband, and still has full authority to marry any person or not to marry at all. There is no compulsion on her. However, if she likes, she can contract a fresh marriage with her previous husband after he becomes a real Muslim again.

can any body paste the link for that video in which Former GOvernor Punjab Sulaman Taseer (L) was Calling blasphemy law as "Kala Qanoon"?

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Taseer's murder another sign of the dysfunctional Pakistani state

Salmaan Taseer's alleged murderer is a twenty-six-year-old security guard, named Malik Mumtaz Hussain Qadri. Qadri was hired by the Punjab Constabulary in 2003 as an 18-year-old recruit. In 2008, he joined the "Elite Force," where Punjab's best cops end up, and was working for this elite force on the security detail for the governor of Punjab when he killed Taseer. His motivation was allegedly Taseer's vocal opposition to the provisions of the Pakistan Penal Code that deal with blasphemy.

Given the infamy of these legal provisions, the discussion about Taseer's assassination is going to be dominated by an examination of how Pakistan treats blasphemy. That is a long-needed national discussion, and in his death, it may be that Taseer will have stimulated an honest and serious national introspection about how the country treats its minorities.

Unfortunately, what is more likely is that Taseer's death will not only not stimulate a more serious examination of how the Pakistani state deals with the highly toxic issues of blasphemy, but it may help mute the already nervous voices within the thin sliver of Pakistani society that seek to amend these kinds of legal provisions.

Whatever ramifications it has for the blasphemy law, Taseer's death should bring home a much more urgent set of realizations. The disturbing reality is that the continued existence of the blasphemy laws, his assassination and the varying shades of reactions to his murder all point to a set of very deeply embedded structural problems within the Pakistani state and Pakistani society.

Long-time advocates of an optimistic outlook for Pakistan like myself have based a positive long-term prognosis on the country's size and the concomitant economic potential it has. However, the ability of Pakistan to align itself with any kind of transformative economic activity is contingent on a baseline of minimum human and social capital, a minimal ability within the state to absorb and leverage that capital, and a minimum baseline of rational rigor within political discourse.

Those three qualities are in desperately short supply in the Pakistan of 2011.

The state of human and social capital can best be surmised by some of the chilling statements of support for the assassination that were visible on social media like Twitter and Facebook, mere hours after the assassination. Regardless of the normative problems with misguided religiosity, nationalism and deep-set political polarity, it is quite clear that some Pakistanis, those celebrating this kind of horrifying assassination, are fundamentally incapable of engaging with the rest of the rational world.

The level of state capability can be measured by the mere fact that the assassin was a long-time, regular state employee. This was no Lee Harvey Oswald. It was Beant and Satwant Singh all over again. Of course, Sikh extremists killed Indira Gandhi in retaliation for Operation Blue Star, at the Golden Temple in Amritsar -- an attack on a holy site. Qadri supposedly killed Taseer for standing up for a Christian woman convicted of blasphemy and sentenced to death. The Elite Force that Qadri was a member of was established in 1998 to counter, of all things, the wave of extremist violence in the Punjab in the mid and late 1990s. The motto of the Elite Force, according to a Wikipedia entry, is "Kill all the terrorists." Like many other instruments of the Pakistani state, the Punjab Elite Force seems to have a clear and present competence deficit.

As an advocate of realistic optimism, Taseer's assassination for me, and many among the small English-speaking urban community in Pakistan, is gut-wrenching and heart-breaking. It is a reminder that the realities of Pakistan in the New Year are stark and intimidating.

Focusing on any one aspect of all the holes in Pakistan that this assassination exposes would be myopic and misguided. Pakistan is in desperate need of a viable counter-weight to the irrational and frankly un-Islamic voices of religious extremism that dominate religious discourse in the country. That is not a year-long fight. It is an intergenerational struggle.

Pakistani is also in need of urgent reforms to the legal and judicial system that allows and in many ways encourages mindless vigilantism. That too is a not a fight that can be won quickly. Enabling parliamentarians to feel secure and confident in making changes just got even harder with Taseer's assassination. This is also an intergenerational struggle.

The cancer of fanaticism that consumed Taseer's life is a product of two generations of Pakistani state actions, starting with General Zia-ul Haq's offering up the country as an assembly line of warriors for the war in Afghanistan against the Soviet Union in the 1990s, and continuing with General Pervez Musharraf's offering up the same country as a staging ground for a war against those very warriors. The role of the war in Afghanistan and America's presence in the region is inescapable. It has helped catalyze and deepen the pre-existing groundswell of a radicalized the mainstream Pakistani narrative. This mess has been more than thirty years in the making. It is clear that no amount of externally-stimulated counterinsurgency or counterterrorism will do the trick. More is needed, much more. And all of it has to be organic and local. This, more than any other, is the greatest of intergenerational struggles.

Salmaan Taseer's assassination raises legitimate questions about the viability of this struggle and its success. On an already cold and tragic day in Islamabad, that represents a devastating reality.

http://afpak.foreignpolicy.com/posts...akistani_state

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Last Night, i received a text mesage from one of my friend with the content of.....
"HUM US GUARD KO SALAM PESH KRTE HEN, KE JIS NE HURMAT-E-RASOOL KE KHATIR SALMAN TASEER KO QATAL KIYA"
WHEN , when i call back to my freind who forward this mesage to me, and ask for the justification of teh words she was spreading... she simply said..... I dont know much abt it, but tasser used sum bad words against our Holy Prophet(SAW) and he shud be murdered on that grounds......
Thats the problm with our pple, the sentimental, sensitive, intolerante, impatient, agressive, revenge seekers and worst part is that all that without properly probing into the actual matter.... the self proclaimed so called religious ulema fint it so easy to instigate and agitate the stupid masses who are anytime ready to blindly asssalt anyone in the name of religion......
Is this what Islam preaches???
Is this how, our God want us to behave like???
As far teh case of Salman Taseer is concered, i would merely comment that death is the final destiny of life. Irrespective of his personal deeds and political affiliations, his assisination is a condemnable act and all those congratulating each other, and spreading such greeetings without research are the foolish creatures of the God...

According to the Quran, only two types of criminals can be sentenced to capital punishment: those who are guilty of murder, or those who create mischief on earth. Anyone who took the life of another soul for reasons other than these two, according to the Quran, would be as if he killed the entire mankind. (Quran; 5:32)
Our people believe on rumors. No one dare to investigate the truth. The brainwashing of our people by clerics is not good for peace of our country. They are only spreading their false ideas by using the name of Islam.

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i second you.

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