yeh soch bunyadi tor pe ham main evolution ne bhari hai , ham aik zarayi feudal samaj se evolve hue hain jis main aik jaga pe settle hoke puri life guzarne kaa trend raha hai, dunya ke tamam taraqi yaafta log har roz nai job karte hain, is main koi bari baat thori hai .

respected sir

mana bhi sayed farsi main yahi kaha tha ka ya jo education ha is na mujha ba shoor kar dya ha aur us shaoor na mari zindagi mushkil kar de ha...............kash main bhi us maid ki tarh azad khayal hoti mujha bhi izat basti ki koi parwah na hoti na koi status hota na bolna, uthna bethna , bat karna ka saleqa hota.......aur na logo ki expectation hoti.............lakin sakoon hota.........

@ M T s Awan

mana apni first post main yahi kaha tha ka koi bhi fully honest nahi rah sakta...........per koi mari bat samjhata he nahi........main system ko improve karna ki bat kar rahi ho...........akhir system ko better kar lena main problem kya ha?.......

nahi koi bari bat nahi ha...........

aik din main kaee jobs per switch karta ha.................but khud job chorna aur kan pakar kar job sa nikalna main bohat fark hota ha...........

apna society ki leg pulling habit ko nazar andaz na karian sir

an uphill task, but not impossible, one can play its role for improvement /betterment of system, stay blessed.

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'Thee woh ik shakhs kay tasawar saay - abb woh ranayee khayal kahaan'

honesty... something i have been hearing since i got senses. and all what i have gathered is that if we want to change the system we have to change ourselves. honesty lies in being contented. somebody feeding his own self can be contented but when one has to support his family according to the demands of society (status/standard of living etc.) he can never be contented. its not impossible to bring change but its too difficult to do that. i, myself can be honest but i am not the system... there is a huge lot (with different mentality) comprising a system... i can mend myself but can never change the mind set of others. all what i can do is try... and honesty lies in continuing try even when you know that its not going to make any difference... and yes!!! if you want to be corrupt you will find hundred excuses for "those who want to work, find ways... and those who don't want to work, find excuses"
PAIWASTA REH SHAJAR SY, UMEED-E-BAHAAR RKH...

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Don't judge my path... for you haven't walked my journey...

Seems as if you are offended by the presence of some uniforms around you, inferiority compllex, perhaps?

Wow!
So you would judge a person just because he/she can afford a damn car?!

BTW, How much service this junior SP of yours is putting on? What i want to ask is, after how many years of commission did a CSP is elevated to the coveted rank of SP?

i ask this because, here in the Army, a newly promoted Major is putting on 12 yrs of service. May be there's a difference of pay?

i disagree.

My father, working in a govt dept was able to afford a second hand car even though when his pay was less as compared to what i have been earning. Now if he could afford a car with lesser pay than that of a CSP, i doubt why exactly you cant afford one.

Second, Army officers have to buy their own transport, because unlike the CSPs they are provided with sarakari transport, which is invariably used by these CSPs as if it were their personal property.

i too have relatives and friends in the civ service, and i dint find them going to their offices on their private vehicles, whereas the first pick and drop facility available to an Army Officer is at the rank of a Lt Col (grade 19). That too is at time barred because as per the rule these guys get conveyance allowance and thus are not supposed tio utilize military transport for office pick and drop. It can be only used for proceeding on official duty.

i remember, once i was at Jhelum, our GOC had banned all the COs from using their jeeps to pick them from their homes. Conversely, a CSP at TT Singh, who is a good friend would go to his home at Faisalabad on every weekend on his Potohar Jeep. Seriously, Army officers cant even imagine of going to even a KM out of cantt on military vehicles without a bonafide duty. All those MP guys, duty slips, control numbers and move sanctions are required for a military vehicle to leave any cantt.

And guess what, as i was also at TT Singh for some a small duty for a few days, so i wanted to visit Faisalabad too. As i could not use my military vehicle, although there was no check on me as TT Singh is not a cantt and thus no MP or requirement of move sanction from HQ, i could easily have gone to FSd on my Jeep, but i didnt. Instead, the CSP offered me that he would send me his Jeep FROM Fsd to pick me up. When i refused that this amounts to misuse of resources, he first laughed but then said that he shall make other arrangements. i strictly told him not to send any official vehicle, he agreed, but then he did another stunt, he asked a Contractor to pick me up from TT Singh and drop me at Fsd!

i mean, why would a contractor use his personal car to pick and drop someone? i am sure you can guess how intimate they would be with he CSP.


Guess what, you already did.

What do you mean? Please elaborate.

i didnt have a servant to drop me, my father did that on a motorcycle. Be thankful!

My parents couldnt afford a private school for me. But they ensured through sacrifice that i attend one of the best private schools of Pakistan. Today, i myself as a father wants to send my kids to schools like Beaconhouse or City etc, but even though i can afford it, but then i had to think before doing it because of the high school fees these institutions have. i hesitated, but now i remember that my parents never hesitated once they were affording bests schools for me.

BTW, even though i can afford, my kids still go to 'Public' schools because my frequent posting dont allow me to get my kids to a private school. That's the perils of working a govt job. So, my dear, why dont you just bear it out?

I can't understand.

People are forced to sell kidney's in Pakistan, just to get money.

Women are forced into prostitution, and yet we claim about low salaries of government employees, ludicrous.

Well im very much glad that yu got a nerve and wrote down what was bottling up inside you. It's not just a problem of CSP officer who is earning this much. ive noticed whoever works in the government sector has to have same pay. Let's say an ASI in the police is earning 16000 and a DIG is earning 95000. and a guy who is an appraiser in customs earns 45000 but they all are enjoying black money. It's a tradition, yu can never question that. yu should have realized before getting yourself into this.

If you talk about g k "private workers are earning well" then there are so many private multinational companies which are being run by underworld don. And people know this and they accept this black money. And they're so happy with their ostentatious lives. Nobody gives a second thought to how they're earning and what they're feeding to their children. how can one feed their family haram? How? People don't give a sh*t to this. They just enjoy what's in their hand.

I dunno if there is any solution to this. If we see our drivers or maids, don't we realize what we are feeding them as well. I belong to a political family and I know how this all work. what we are eating and how we are paying who works under us, but we are kind of trapped. We don't want to get out of this. Seriously if you ask anyone who is eating haram Kay paisy k bhaee this is sin. And stop all of this? Do you think he'd listen to you? NO he won't. He'd say please everyone has to answer ALLAH and you're no one. I'm responsible for all my deeds.

Now consider other facts that we are being forced into this. You have to accept their wrong orders as well. yu cant question it. yuve to accept that. You can't risk your life or your family life over this. People do get shot dead easily by not following their orders. I dunno where this is going. I just think it's a deadlock you have to earn by wrong doings. yes yuve to be a corrupt to live on this meany planet.

Peace

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As an ASI in punjab police I have observed that most of the psp's coming through "superior services" are corrupt and use their authority to do so! They make political relations with MNA's and MPA's for their transfers to wealthy areas! And in return carry out wrongful orders of their political masters! Nobody wants to serve in Balochistan, FATA or KPK. Even politicians don't want this thana culture to change. They can't get votes from people if they don't manipulate thana's. In our country politics is THANA based!
We need to de - politicise police in order to get results! It's a mixed mafia of politicians and CSP's who are looting common people!

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harder I work, the more I have of it.” – Thomas Jefferson

well kuch time government service main reh kar is haqiqat kaa andaza ho gaya hai , apni society buhut puhunchi hui hai waqai .

But what bothers me is not leg pulling, which I see as a natural survival instinct of animals , but bothering me is there is no place in this 'human' society of ours where right and wrong could be determined, it seems everyone judges right and wrong on the scale of their own interests. It just shows how ideologically hollow a nation this is..... we just want to be a nation because we want to compete with the world, not because we hold any sort of beliefs and care for each other...

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