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I have served in many government offices and i have not seen a "she" involved in corruption so far. The practice is restricted to (greedy) males only. If somebody knows a SHE involved in corruption, plz tell me. It will be something new for me.
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Yes he CAn. Yes you Can. Yes we Can. Every civil servant should learn how to live with limited bucks. Just stop complaining!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
any particular reason why you have joined DMG? is it because DMG is corruption free?
monetary bribes are not the only way of corruption, you know.
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what ever i am going to write below is talk of BPS 18 officer.........but i want answers.........

goverment service main reh kar corruption kasa na ho........some of the examples he gave are as under
1 aik so called civil servant ko 4 ya 5 ( not exactly remember) rupa karya millta ha..........jab ka shortest route ka karya 10 rupee ha ........kya woh baki karya apni pocket sa pay kara?........agar 4 sal pehla karya waqi 4 rupa tha but karya barha ha lakin govt policy change nahi huwi.........

2 govert officer of BPS 17 ko minimum 10 marla (foots area i dont remember) ka ghar lena ka order ha but us ghar ka jo govt fair milta ha woh 10 sal purana ha........so officer chuta ghar la kar bara ghar show karta ha...

3 jab ap sa lower officer corruption karta huwa brand new garyoo main phira ga aur us ko koi pochna wala nahi ho ga .......tu kis ka dill kara ga apni khusoo ko mar ka hub ul watni ka dhoal peta

ya tu chand examples thi jo us na mujha di thi aur us ka jawab manga tha....mana bhi kafi hub ul watni sabat karna ki kosish ki thi........:P but reality is reality

ap kis govt school ki bat karta ha..........jahan na ustad ha, na imarat .......kis ka dill karta ha govt school main jana ko.......ap kis dunya main rehta ha .....ya america ya euorpe nahi ha jahan per all schools main aik tarh ka syllabus ho ga .....jahan per aik qualification ka ustad ho ga aik fee structure ho ga jahan education main classes nahi ho ge.........jahan edu bussines nahi ha jahan per edu status symbol nahi ha..........sir ya pakistan ha ........please visit 1 time govt school and then decide do u really want to study there ( in small cites specially)

kis govt hospital aur govt facility ki bat karta ha .........govt hosppital main doc kahan milta ha........govt hospital main khawar hona sa better ha ghar per apna patient ko zahar da kar mar da banda.......

public transpport ..........boys can ans it well and i think every 1 know transport facilities of pakistan

waqai csp ko shadi nahi karni chaye ........only 1 option to marry........koi land lord ki bati mill jae jo apna aikhrajat khud bardasht kara........

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agar kisi middle man ki batti sa shadi huwi ha tu us ko apna csp ka medal pani main ghoal kar pilla da jo us ka tamam ihsasat ko mar da aur ya abe hayat pena ka bad us ko na bhook laga na koi aur khuhish ho ku ka woh MASALLAH sa csp ki begum jo ha..........

jab kisi govt officer ka sath ka log corruption kar ka high standard of living rakhain ga tu kya woh banda aur us ki family complex ka shekar nahi ho ge ?..........be realistic and ans

aur Pakistan main koan haq halal ki kha raha ha..........i think mera father haq halal ki khata tha ..........but i was wrong.....jo banda income tax full pay nahi karta , jo apna office main chuta chuta kam karwana ka lya rishwat deta ha .........woh haq halal ki kasa kha sakta ha..........but he is forced to do all this ........koi aur option he nahi ha us ka pass
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what ever i am going to write below is talk of BPS 18 officer.........but i want answers.........

goverment service main reh kar corruption kasa na ho........some of the examples he gave are as under
1 aik so called civil servant ko 4 ya 5 ( not exactly remember) rupa karya millta ha..........jab ka shortest route ka karya 10 rupee ha ........kya woh baki karya apni pocket sa pay kara?........agar 4 sal pehla karya waqi 4 rupa tha but karya barha ha lakin govt policy change nahi huwi.........

2 govert officer of BPS 17 ko minimum 10 marla (foots area i dont remember) ka ghar lena ka order ha but us ghar ka jo govt fair milta ha woh 10 sal purana ha........so officer chuta ghar la kar bara ghar show karta ha...

3 jab ap sa lower officer corruption karta huwa brand new garyoo main phira ga aur us ko koi pochna wala nahi ho ga .......tu kis ka dill kara ga apni khusoo ko mar ka hub ul watni ka dhoal peta

ya tu chand examples thi jo us na mujha di thi aur us ka jawab manga tha....mana bhi kafi hub ul watni sabat karna ki kosish ki thi........:P but reality is reality

ap kis govt school ki bat karta ha..........jahan na ustad ha, na imarat .......kis ka dill karta ha govt school main jana ko.......ap kis dunya main rehta ha .....ya america ya euorpe nahi ha jahan per all schools main aik tarh ka syllabus ho ga .....jahan per aik qualification ka ustad ho ga aik fee structure ho ga jahan education main classes nahi ho ge.........jahan edu bussines nahi ha jahan per edu status symbol nahi ha..........sir ya pakistan ha ........please visit 1 time govt school and then decide do u really want to study there ( in small cites specially)

kis govt hospital aur govt facility ki bat karta ha .........govt hosppital main doc kahan milta ha........govt hospital main khawar hona sa better ha ghar per apna patient ko zahar da kar mar da banda.......

public transpport ..........boys can ans it well and i think every 1 know transport facilities of pakistan

waqai csp ko shadi nahi karni chaye ........only 1 option to marry........koi land lord ki bati mill jae jo apna aikhrajat khud bardasht kara........

aur

agar kisi middle man ki batti sa shadi huwi ha tu us ko apna csp ka medal pani main ghoal kar pilla da jo us ka tamam ihsasat ko mar da aur ya abe hayat pena ka bad us ko na bhook laga na koi aur khuhish ho ku ka woh MASALLAH sa csp ki begum jo ha..........

jab kisi govt officer ka sath ka log corruption kar ka high standard of living rakhain ga tu kya woh banda aur us ki family complex ka shekar nahi ho ge ?..........be realistic and ans

aur Pakistan main koan haq halal ki kha raha ha..........i think mera father haq halal ki khata tha ..........but i was wrong.....jo banda income tax full pay nahi karta , jo apna office main chuta chuta kam karwana ka lya rishwat deta ha .........woh haq halal ki kasa kha sakta ha..........but he is forced to do all this ........koi aur option he nahi ha us ka pass
But all this does not JUSTIFY corruption. If an officer is not able to survive in such meagre salary, instead of doing corruption he can quit his job and go to the private sectors. Yeh sab bahanay hotay hain. I have seen people who live on Rs 8000 per month and still survive and are well respected. So instead of resorting to corruption one should either adapt to the lifestyle that one gets on such salary or he/she should quit the service altogether if he/she feels that they cannot survive.
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But all this does not JUSTIFY corruption. If an officer is not able to survive in such meagre salary, instead of doing corruption he can quit his job and go to the private sectors. Yeh sab bahanay hotay hain. I have seen people who live on Rs 8000 per month and still survive and are well respected. So instead of resorting to corruption one should either adapt to the lifestyle that one gets on such salary or he/she should quit the service altogether if he/she feels that they cannot survive.
surly quit the job and become BEROZGAR..........if you ever feel the frustation of unemployment you cant say it easily...........ok quit job than how to serve and give food to family?.........kia pakistan main har kisi ko nukri asani sa milti ha? kuch na hona sa kuch hona i think better ha.......

2nd thing i just put question that polices should be revised .............

rishwat lena wala aur dena wala dono jhanmi ha na..........but in Pakistan ap us ka bina kuch kar bhi nahi sakta.......chuti se masal ha ..........hamara ghar ka meter kharab tha .....aik switch on karta tha pura ghar ki light ae jati thi .............voltage excess thi .....simply some wire loose thi.........us ka lya complain office main application de 1 din wait kya 2nd day wait kya every time they said jee abhi aik ghanta main ho jae ga at the end 3rd day baba na un sa kaha masla kya ha .......ap ku nahi kar raha ........tu officer saf bola chae pani dain abhi kar deta ha.....ab 2 option thi .......ya tu apna ghar ki sari chesen jali jati ya simple 200 chae pani ka da kar masla hal karwa lya jata .......soo thousand ki chesoo ko jalana sa 200 dena asan laga .......khawari sa bhi bachat aur 200 dena ka bad tesra din meter sahi ho gaya.........

now tell me ap hota tu kya karta?.........dont think hum higher officer ka pass nahi gae .....higher officer na bhi chae pani ka mashwara dya tha........yahan per kisi nukari karna ya chorna ka sawal nahi ha .........aik respectable living ka sawal ha.. kisi nukri ka bina bhi sakoon sa rehna ka lya rishwat dani pari.............is ka alawa lakhoo misala main ap ko da sakti ho.........

respected khurshid sir na public transport aistamal karna ki bat ki thi .......so us context main mana btaya tha ka govt public transport ka fair ab bhi 4 rupa dati ha jo ka shortest ka lya 10 rupee ha........6 rupaa apni pocket sa pay kara kitna nafloo ka sawab ha us ko?..........

mera above post main batana ka maqsad sirf itna tha ka agar ap public servant jo ka soo called officer hota ha un ko achi tarh facilites da dain ga tu woh satisfactory life spend kar sakian ga........jo ka shayed har insan ka haq ha.........

bare mahrbani ap mujha 8000 main aik family with just 3 members ka budget bna dain.........i will be really thankfull to u.........
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surly quit the job and become BEROZGAR..........if you ever feel the frustation of unemployment you cant say it easily...........ok quit job than how to serve and give food to family?.........kia pakistan main har kisi ko nukri asani sa milti ha? kuch na hona sa kuch hona i think better ha.......
Koi aik bhi baat yeh justify nahi ker sakti keh insan rishwat lay ya haram khaye. Faqon marna zyada behtar hai.
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As muslims it is our duty to abide by the rules Islam has set for us. One should rather die of hunger than to lose his principles and be involved in corrupt practices. Insaan kisi haal mein khush nahi hai. And even in 10000rs an honest person can easily survive (note that CSPs earn far more than this sum). If one wants a lavish life, he should stay away from government sector.
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Koi aik bhi baat yeh justify nahi ker sakti keh insan rishwat lay ya haram khaye. Faqon marna zyada behtar hai.
han kaha ja sakta ha ka faqoon marna zayada better ha..........per aik citizen hona ka nata apna right demand karna fazool ha.........fakooan marna zayada better ha .....per un wajhoat ko khatam na kya jae jin ki wajha sa sytem corupt ho raha ha.......if this way is good i agree with u .........puri qooam ki pays kam karian ..........pura mulk main aik jasa pay system lain ........koi private aur govt ka chakar na ho........per hour ka hisab sa pay dain........

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ap Islam ka principles ki baat karta ha .........Islam main tu insano ka bhoot haqooq ha .....even said haqooq ALLAH maaf ho sakta ha per haqooq ul aibad nahi ....jab tak ka woh jis ka haq zabat kya gaya ho woh maff na kara.......aik achi aur respectable life mera haq ha aur main us ki demannd karti ho.........
waqi insan kisi hal main khus nahi ha ...........i fully agree..........10000 u and any 1 can survive .........i said u to make budget with thhis money..........just for a 3 member family........na us ka parents ha na koi aur relation ki responsiblity ha( even in pakistan mostly parents also live with sons)...........plz sir i am waiting for ur budget........

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