If you are from a rich family background, then yes you can survive without corruption and can Enjoy a civil officer life even more (Note I am not saying that you will surely not indulge in corruption, but you will have no logical reason to indulge in it)

If you are from a poor family background, sooner or later you'll get involved in corruption as it's not possible to live a comfortable life and support your family and children education in a civil officer salary (not at least for the first 10-15 years, those years are the most imp of your life)

Please know, using service car (for personal use), service telephone (for personal use) and many other benefits given to you for official use If used for personal use is also corruption (sadly, 99% of the civil officers are involved in this). Also, Corruption of Rs 1 or corruption of rs 100 million, both is called "Corruption"

Any officer with limited needs can survive in his salary without any problem. On the other hand an officer with unlimited needs CAN NOT survive in his salary as he is fond luxuries of life like a big house/car, foregin tours, expensive cloths, trendy private schools for kids, imported cigrattes and perfumes and all other costly things that are not required by an honest officer.

So it depends upon officer wheather he wants to survive on his salary or not.

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If you are rich you can already have all that and would not require corruption on other hand If you are not you will surely require to indulge in corruption for all that. I, however understand what you were trying to say .. human desires never end, they only grow but to be honest I know some officers that are honest (civil officers) and are enjoying all the luxuries you mentioned above, not because they are corrupt but because they come from wealthy families.

So, my point is, the luxuries you mentioned are not bad to enjoy if and only if you can get them without indulging in corruption, it's not a sin, if one can afford it, why not?

Yes, you are right. Even a penny of corruption is disallowed in Islam. There is very harsh punishment in Islam for corruption. A person is said to have had sex with his mother who has taken or given bribe.Then how many muslims commit this sin daily in Pakistan?

But I too am confused about double-standard of those civil servants who commit corruption but at the same time offer 5-times prayers and have beard like that of molvis. I think their prayer is useless and will not be accepted on the Doomsday.What do you say about this?

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I agree. However, I seriously am confused, Are we hypocrites or what? I mean, Come on .. How many of us have never involved in corruption (If corruption is giving and/or taking bribe) ? I think most of the people don't believe in the Quran and Islam however they only say they do because If they know they will get punishment hereafter why are they actively involved in it? I am not blaming anyone else, I myself am involved and I bet even you are and everyone else Is. I bribed a clerk at National ID center because my card was purposely being delayed (even the operators on their helpline told my my card has arrived) and when the person took money he immediately delivered it.. similarly in pakistan each and everyone has given bribe one time or another .. I myself think im a hypocrite sometimes, lol.. :/

lol me too. Those who are most corrupt indulge in charity and 5 time prayers very often, This is very confusing to me as well .. I think they do this because they think that God might forgive them by doing all this but this is indeed very surprising

You are right. Nobody can claim that he has not committed a sin or corruption.But this should not be a reason to indulge ourselves in corruption.It is a weakness to submit and lose to system and this is one of the major reasons for indulging in corruption. Practically i have seen many people who are of this opinion;They say "When everyone commits corruption, then why should not i?". Nobody ll save another one on the doomsday;Everyone has to enter into ones own grave.Everyone has to play ones part to eradicate corruption from society.People,who are presently honest and perform their duty properly,are playing their role;I think they should be appreciated publicly.But these people undergo sufferings and humiliation at the hands of the corrupt because there is majority of the corrupt people and the honest are in minority.
We are going onto philosophy of Islamic punishment and the doomsday. On the doomsday, everyone will have to account for ones deeds and a Muslim is no exception.

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Nadra and Paksitan Motorway Police are the departments that are spared from corruption. If u are against malpractice then its better not join civil service.
Look career in private sector.

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Dear,


Ever heard about Hazrat Umar RA's ideas about swindling from Bait-al-Mal.........his view was if he took money from Bait-al Mal...then state was not looking after him/her properly. On this reason punishment was not the only solution.


As to mentioning 1 rupee and one crore example....it is basic local unrealistic thought, which was employed by Brahmans to make people guilty conscious and rule superbly. In Islam there is concept of NISAB even for Zakat implementation and also for punishing for stealing etc.

If a person is hungry and unable to get legitimate means for survival...laws do not apply to that person. Hazrat Umer RA waived stealing punishment during famine.


Issues are not mere rich back ground or poor background. It varies from person to person.

First of all correct yourself dear brother this is not said about bribe or corruption but "sood".

Coming to the topic I want to say that in the present circumstances its almost impossible to survive without corruption. Besides the reasons mentioned by the other fellows like enjoying the luxuries or vice versa there is another major reason and that is this that even if a person is satisfied with his salary and benfits and do not induldge in corruption for the want of money etc. his life is made a hell by his own subordinates and bosses. He will be facing inquiries, transfers, political pressures and all these things quite frequently. Every one can bear these things upto a certain extent which when exceeds the said person too start doing what the others are doing. So this is another form of corruption called forced corruption.

Regards,

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this question really strikes in mind. one reason for being corrupt is your economic resources.one can do part times jobs as teaching in civil service acadmy and others.but when officers ordered to do wrong than you have only one choice to accept or reject.Rejectiom means being ousted from your status quo. So very few remain honest

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