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@ SALEEQA: i wana ask u that is it really proven that those who commit terrorism and are involved in this blood-game afre really MUSLIMs? its a tragic fact of our society that we believe whatever zionist-jews and western media claims.there are rotten fish there who have given pak.bad name.but we have to admit that west is hell-bent on destroying our iamge and it has done this very well with the connivance of our political rulers. actually the dilemma is that we are not united under one flag.thats why so-called muslims within our state are successfully maping western maps to annihilate us. |
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@ saleeqa
before convicting and giving verdict against Muslims that they are provoking terrorism and are terrorists u must also keep a balance view that what israel is doing with Palestine what they did with freedom flotilla. what india is doing with kashmir and in afghanistan. what america is doing incooperation with nato in libya and other states. what they are doing to iran by putting sanctions on iran. what india is doing in balochistan. in our tribal belts. is there any justification to the subject that india has developed 15 to 20 councilates near pak afghan border. fighting for our state interest is not terrorism. yes some muslims are involved in helping the enemies to destabilize pakistan but this does not mean that wholesome muslims are responsible.
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@ Bukhari12 well bro we agree that we cannot blame all muslims for provoking terrorism but yes some Muslims do contribute towards supporting it and we cannot overlook this fact.what Israel is doing in palestine is visible but have we ever considered the role of Muslims in it.Egypt a Muslim country blocked its border with palestine when they needed it most.no muslim country dare to speak boldly against Israel.What America is doing is Libya or other countries is not without support from muslims.who are fighting in libya?are they not Muslims? Similarly some kashmiris leaders continue to help India for keeping its hold on Kashmir and Saudi arabia is supporting US stand on Iran.same is the case with Pakistan where our Politicians and leaders are supporting enemies in their bid to destabilize Pakistan and we must admit that they cannot do this without help from our own people.so first we muslims need to get united.
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[its a tragic fact of our society that we believe whatever zionist-jews and western media claims] Agreed, media is a powerful tool in the hands of west but do you know what we are told through local media is based on facts? We are kept in dark by our vernacular media outlets. I believe media, there, in west is much more compliant to ethics and morality against our media. [there are rotten fish there who have given pak.bad name.but we have to admit that west is hell-bent on destroying our iamge and it has done this very well with the connivance of our political rulers.] Emotions aside , do you know who these rotton fish are? Let me tell you the reality. Our society was pushed towards extremism and militancy during Zia's rule. Miltants accross the country were hired under aegis of state and Pakistan virtually turned in to breeding ground of militancy. We earned Dollars and waged so called Jihad against USSR. So these are not politicians but Military Dictators whose rule is characterized by complete subservience to their western masters.I dont say politicions have done better on this count but they havent went to the extent of Military Rulers.This is the reason that Military period is marked with cordial relation of ours with US.Static shows that almost 70 perecent of amercan aid to Pakistan has been given during military rule. So before blaming west , put your own house in order. And those who have done havoc are not a bunch of few rather the stat per se is guilty. @BOKHARI [before convicting and giving verdict against Muslims that they are provoking terrorism and are terrorists u must also keep a balance view that what israel is doing with Palestine what they did with freedom flotilla. what india is doing with kashmir and in afghanistan. what america is doing incooperation with nato in libya and other states. what they are doing to iran by putting sanctions on iran. what india is doing in balochistan. in our tribal belts. is there any justification to the subject that india has developed 15 to 20 councilates near pak afghan border. fighting for our state interest is not terrorism. yes some muslims are involved in helping the enemies to destabilize pakistan but this does not mean that wholesome muslims are responsible.] Dear i am no one to hand down a verdict. I have just tried to point faults that lies with in us. What you call muslim Brotherhood in world politics actually exist nowhere. The states have their own intersts and they pursue them.I strongly condemn the US's policy on Palestine and its unqualified patronization of Israel. What Israil is condemned vehemently and i always pray for our Palestine brethern. However there are other realities that must be kept in mind.As i said states have their own interests. While mentioning plight of Muslims , you havent mentioned rights abuses against muslims of Xinjiang why because our country maintains good relation with China.As for as Lybia is concerned and other Arab countries are concerned , have their rulers not bruatlly opprssed their subject? It started from Tunasia where Zain ul abdeen ali was ousted by the people.It was entierly an indigniuous movement. West's Double standard are conspicous in current uprising in middle esat.They remained silent against their own puppets and belatedly spoken against Bashar-ul-asad with out any concrete step to save the civilian lives. Arab Spring may have been expolited by west , but its originated indigniously.The people of those countries have rendered sacrifices to gain liberty and freedonm from tyrannous rules. Involvment of West shouldnt serve to outrightly deny the efforts of arab brtehern. Blamming India for Baluch insurgency is uncalled for.It is the state who should shoulder the blame for deprivation of baluch brethern who have been denied their basic rights. The most resourceful province of the country is least developed , why? Refuge must not be sought in blaimg others.Weare to acept blame because we made others exploit us. We are not tired of blaming international powers for disintegration of Pakistan in 1971. But this is half truth. The reaming truth is kept hidden to the people.In reality , Bungalese were denied their rights. They were subjected to terrible opression by state.Ayub Khan used to denounce them in public meetings. Bungalese bhad supported Ms Fatima Jinnah against Ayub Khan imn Presidential Election. But Ayub won the election through massive rigging. The BD members were purchased, threatened and exploited to vote for Ayub.That Time Bungalese realised that they will not be able to vote in thier own representative. Mujeeb Ur Rehman presented Six Points in 1967 that was infact a framework to tranform federation in to confedeartion. Untill that the movement and uprsing in Bungladesh was purly indignious. Latter on, the mishandling by the state invited foreign intervention. Conclusion Keep your own house in order, and if it is not so others will exploit you.Besides, instill the courage to accept your faults instaed of blaming others. Only introspection can lead to improvement.
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yes there are some Muslims who are involved in terrorism but there are being exploited by the western agencies we have to look in to our own houses but there is no rite for other to poke there nose in our internal matter and provoke them to work against there own state and there own people. yes due to bad governance we are going through the tough phase. but simply we cannot blame that muslims are responsible for this. are 1.65billion muslims responsible and people who commit such act are not worth of being called muslims.
simply calling muslim terrorist is bit unjustified yes we need to live are standards according to the teachings of islam. westerns are the iceburg responsible for present situation in the world and muslim might be the tip of the ice burg.
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