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After a long time, I am back again So better to seek your intellectual feedback.

Pakistan has been linked with Pakistan for quite some time and this is a reality as well. Ranging from NY Square to Mumbai, the roots meet here in our land of the pure.

We launched a war on terror to eliminate it and sacrificed more than 35000 lives, including 3400 security personnel as well as a total loss of $ 68 bn in the war on terror, but the terror is still there. We made deals and accords with the terrorists, we did army limited operations, we announced bounties on the terrorists but the terror is still there.

Still we are accused of exporting terror. For a neutral analyst, it is a difficult task to support the otherwise.

Given the situation Pakistan is in, what is missing from our strategy against terrorism? What, if any, our strategy is? how can we end terrorism and violence from our society?

Please give your recommendations along with arguments and be specific and brief.
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by fighting for others never the objectives and goals could be earned. Neither US could achieve success by Pakistan's proxy war. And it is the matter of deal. Both the countries created the militants for their support and now wanted to end all this. its not a computer game once you started you could also end. creating an army to defeat soviet union, both the countries earned the political success and now? The militants created were human beings how could both the countries end it? they should have created robots instead so that at least they have obeyed the orders. when to start when to end,
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I agree , pakistan and US share this historic mistake of supporting militancy back in 70s and now paying heavily for it. In my view, development, dialogue and detternce could be three options to eliminate this cancer. Deveopment in infrastructure, better health n education facilities, could help us to discourage militancy, poverty being a root cause of it, madrassah reforms should be introduced, not only in words but in spirit also..which should check the syllabus n curriculum taught at these religious institutions.
Importance of dialogue can nor be undermined, we have seen that a decade of use of force has not availed anything. Peaceful settlements are envitable.
Detterance should be the last option.

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• To begin with, a national commission needs to be set up, which identifies the fault lines and the root causes of the rise of extremism in Pakistan taking into consideration the post-Nine-Eleven developments.

• It should also take up the question of reforming the madrassas. The heads of all the major religious groups should be contacted and engaged to explore short-term and long-term solutions.

• Our universities and research institutes should take up the intellectual task of re-interpreting the Islamic injunctions in the light of modern knowledge and 21st century challenges (with emphasis on social justice).

• The government must improve its performance. Bad governance and corruption have lowered its credibility and clout,

• Parliament must debate Pakistan’s present relationship with the US, with particular reference to the American war in Afghanistan and operations in Pakistan.

• Our government should make efforts to develop sector. Without any doubt, these efforts will play a crucial role not only in providing employment to the millions of people but will also eliminate poverty in the country.

• Pakistan’s government should particularly emphasise the need of technical education by promoting it. In this respect, more institutes should be opened in order to promote technical education.

• It is mentionable that there are two types of terrorists, extremists and moderates. In order to cope with terrorism, our government should neutralise the moderate terrorists through reconciliation by offering them general pardon and asking them to renounce terrorism. Even extremist insurgents can be offered mediation. Nevertheless, those militants who reject the offer could be fought through military operations.

• Nonetheless, for their on global and regional interests, US-led western allies must not only increase the military and economic aid of Pakistan but also provide direct market access to Pak products on zero rate duty to help stabilise the country’s bleak economy in the wake of the war against terror.

• As Pakistan has been successfully coping with the menace of terrorism, US-led some western countries including India should also give up their propaganda campaign against Islamabad and blame game against its intelligence agency ISI.

• US should help in resolving the Kashmir dispute to deal with the problem of militancy in the region.

• In order to fight terrorism, Pakistan’s media should play a key role. It must point out the criminal activities of the militants like hostage-taking, killing of the innocent people? torching the government buildings including girl schools and car-snatching. It should also indicate that Islam is a religion of peace and does not allow suicide attacks.

• As Pakistan is already facing various crises of grave nature in wake of terrorism, so our politicians must stop manipulating the same for their own self-interests. By setting aside their differences and by showing power of tolerance, both our rulers and opposition parties need to act upon a policy of national reconciliation to cope with the problem of terrorism and to stand before external pressure.

• Finally, our politicians, general masses and security forces must show a strong sense of unity to fight terrorism.


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*First of all in present circumstances Both the countries should make dialogues with Taliban and haqqani as well as other militants and insurgents.
*Give and Take policy should be adopted instead of the policy of killing the insurgents as it already appeared a failure, not only failure but also effected the economy, society and governmental structure of Pak especially. Blasts and explosions are the result of the current adopted policy. What in fact they need? Departure of US army, control over some areas, significant part in polity, no drone attacks, acknowledgment of their existence as a party. and what we needed? peace, no more blasts and attacks on border, no more abductions etc. the Question is what the America needs? I do not know. Because if he needed that Pakistan should hand over the militants to her so it is difficult for the sovereignty of our country as the militants and Afghan in general would turn as an enemy of a country and having one already Pakistan can not afford one more. So what is the stance of America and her interests? It is the problem now a days our politician and policy makers are facing and the reason of Allegations and counter allegations
*after giving some rights to Militants, Now as the peace and tranquility have taken place now the efforts should be done to establish a democratic government, by developing educational infrastructure, industries etc
*here I would like to clear that in Pakistan generally none of the madrassah is sheltering militants of Afghan, Yeah LeT is a jihadi Group of Pak which is working in Kashmir and in 1990 was developed with the help of the then ISI chief Gen Hameed Gul, As what I analyzed it is developed to busy the Indian army in Kashmir Pakistan Army is not directly engaged in Held Kashmir areas it is the LeT, What is the benefit, Govt is not needed to support this group financially it is us from whom they wrest the money, i was astonished when a guy returned from the training told me that their boots were given by the army and are the same which the army uses, the weapons are modern and latest even they train them how to use bazooka and rocket launcher. I am against this group was a great admirer of their efforts but when researched and discussed with their prominent figures I reached at a point that this group is developed to gather the enough funds from public and to make them feel that one day we will conquer the Kashmir and also India. they are in great number.
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Well, All are very nice suggestions. None of the problem is to stay forever, hence can be solved, given the political, economic and strategic environment favors it.

In my view, a National Security Council needs to be made which should include political, economic and military leadership. The council should work on the basis of "National Security of Pakistan" instead of narrow term of "Defence of Pakistan". It should be a the highest policy formulating institution which should be responsible for any type of military operation within the country or against any other state as well as nuclear related matters. The council should be assisted by three type of intellectuals - defence, economy and social - to help it make policies.

Now to deal with terrorism the council should have the powers to summon any one and issue notices legally. It should announce a specific time limit in which people/insurgents/terrorists/extremists/and all civilians can surrender their weapons. The people who surrender should be given full immunity of their past wrong doings. After the lapse of specified time a military operation needs to be carried out in the most dangerous areas and wherever possible, choose-and-pick type operation should be conducted by the special forces.

The decisions related to national security by this type of institution would give many benefits; all leadership - military, economic and political - would be on one page; national unity would be attained, no need to form abbottabad commission / Hamood ur Rehman commission etc, instead the council should be giving answers to the people; no need to call APCs, instead the council would be deciding the matters; short sighted "defence" term, preoccupied by militaristic attitude would be replaced by much larger picture of "national security" which would not only consider military point of view but also economic and political nature of the issues as well. In such a system, the foreign policy would be linked with the National Security Council though which the economic experts and the political leadership would overshadow the generals, hence reduce the military grip over the foreign policy as well as the military's concern - the political leaders are unable to make a foreign policy owing to many good reasons - would also be tackled.

A special anti-terror force needs to be created within the armed forces which should include personnel from military, police, intelligence and medico-legal profession. This means we should not indulge our whole military force into the war on terror. Rather we should focus on counter terrorism strategy. The special force would be less vulnerable to the threats of the terrorists, would be more trained, more coordinated hence more effective. Their salaries would be smart to curb corruption. This force will only be used for internal insurgents. This would make it possible to take back the kill-and-dump type operations from agencies, as alleged.

All other suggestions which had already been discussed in above posts - reducing poverty, educating the people, de-radicalization, reducing unemployment - are vital for such a system, but needs to be monitored by the National Security Council.
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You also gave good suggestions. But the issue is with the implementation, lets see now on what the states have made a deal, covert deal I should say.
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This is a very simple question with a very simple answer.

The day that Pakistani army gives up on its dreams of gaining strategic depth in Afghanistan and the day that they also decide to stop using militants in Kashmir, terrorism in South Asia will automatically end.

However, our security agencies insist upon using these militants/terrorists as a tool of their foreign policy. These militants are not easily controlled and as was seen after the Lal Masjid operation, many of them declared us as Murtideen and hence Wajib-ul-Qatl.
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This is a very simple question with a very simple answer.

The day that Pakistani army gives up on its dreams of gaining strategic depth in Afghanistan and the day that they also decide to stop using militants in Kashmir, terrorism in South Asia will automatically end.

However, our security agencies insist upon using these militants/terrorists as a tool of their foreign policy. These militants are not easily controlled and as was seen after the Lal Masjid operation, many of them declared us as Murtideen and hence Wajib-ul-Qatl.
I second your opinion, I will just recall the words of a Columnist "None of the Universal Law allow any nation to intrude the sovereignty of any other Nation, for us they are insurgents but in real they are fighting for their country, and they use to call themselves a patriot who is fighting for the freedom of the Country"
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I second your opinion, I will just recall the words of a Columnist "None of the Universal Law allow any nation to intrude the sovereignty of any other Nation, for us they are insurgents but in real they are fighting for their country, and they use to call themselves a patriot who is fighting for the freedom of the Country"
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I want to say something on your opinion. your quote "None of the universal law allow any nation to intrude the sovereignty of any other nation", or Americans, Indians are following this universal law. as far as the strategic depth is afghanistan is concerned my dear brother we want to save that side of our country, it doesn't mean to flourish terrorism. by the way, everything done by american army in Iraq, Afghanistan and many other countries and indian army in Kashmir is following that law in your opinion.
you must try to be vigilant if you are tasked to save something and in that position you have to create your supporters, who in the time of need should be there though in hibernation, yet active in other sense. they are not the Jihadi groups who are making all such bull-shits on the name of Islam. do you think this is What Islam says?
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