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Bhai, any knowledgeable person like you can reply to the questions as we are not seeking replies from them. Anyway, there are still three questions asked in this thread but still unanswered. These are;

1- Wheather the TJ members consists of only one sect or other sects are included as well in the Jamaat ?

2- If the Talibans are associates of TJ, then why they are enganged in killings and violent activities against the teachings of TJ ?

3- And the above question regarding use of electronic gadgets like TV, Computer/internet is right or wrong in their teachings ?

Hope your studies are going well and not being affacted by answering the posts in this thread.
Although you have asked most wanted to answer you but I will also contribute some good to your knowledge. Sorry for that!


1- Are you practitioner of other sect then TJ or are you trying to set fire on them? Any sect is welcome to join TJ.


2- Why don't you ask this question from ISI? They will give you a perfect answer. After all Talibans are by products of ISI.

3- Everything has two aspects i.e; positive and negative. If TV and Internet are used in positive way then their(TJ's) religion won't call them non-permissibles. No doubt if you use TVs and internet for immoral stuff then it is not only forbidden in Islam but as well in any other religion.

I'm not a tableeghi but I don't like to abuse one or anything just to satisfy my intermingled concepts.
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And note one thing that TABLEEGHI JAMAAT is actually not a Jamat or Party or Political Party or stuff like that. People involved in this, just perform a duty, which is obligation of each and every Muslim i.e. to preach others. and a person learns and practices Islam to almost the highest degree.
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Although you have asked most wanted to answer you but I will also contribute some good to your knowledge. Sorry for that!


1- Are you practitioner of other sect then TJ or are you trying to set fire on them? Any sect is welcome to join TJ.


2- Why don't you ask this question from ISI? They will give you a perfect answer. After all Talibans are by products of ISI.

3- Everything has two aspects i.e; positive and negative. If TV and Internet are used in positive way then their(TJ's) religion won't call them non-permissibles. No doubt if you use TVs and internet for immoral stuff then it is not only forbidden in Islam but as well in any other religion.

I'm not a tableeghi but I don't like to abuse one or anything just to satisfy my intermingled concepts.
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I think you're. Bro you've quoted not my text but that of SocioPU's text in my post.becareful!
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One last thing and i am out of this discussion.
There is some thing known as ijtehad which has to be practised.
and as far as using electronic media for wrong things is concerned well then
burkha had been and is being used for many bad things.Then why not to ban that aswell??
aur jisnay ghalat kaam karna hota hai woh kahein bhe karleta hai.Dont blame the modern technology for that.There some thing known as nafs pe control...woh bhe karna chahihiye insaan ko.
Duniya chand par pohanch gaye aur hum yahan yeh discuss kar rahe hain ke tv use karna theek hai ke nahe
Guys guys guys...hold on, we are in the same team, this discussion is just to share opinions, please lets not make points at each other. TJ is definitely using some form of media, but as some one said Ijtehad is necessary, my suggestion to brother would be that they should gather facts and present them to who so ever they deem necessary. Most probably the Ulema at TJ markaz, i know people from TJ, they are never stringent, i am sure they can very well satisfy you on this issue.

Secondly TJ is definitely playing a very positive role no matter what any one says or implies, as in my personal experience the time spend in UK, i have seen them all around, Alhamdulillah playing very positive role, and i have many such examples where even people embraced Islam due to their efforts.

I know same goes for Dawat e Islami Dr Zaki Naik and many more, but in general the mass effect all around globe is heavily influenced by TJ.

And please friends do not point at each other, and be polite, hum insha Allah politely baat kr k b discuss kr sakte hen na. Its not wise to point at any one, any comments on what ever i said are most welcome.
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Thanks all for your time and input.
My conclusion is that TJ may be enganged in a noble cause but they have limited impact on Pakistani society as most of their followers belong to one particular school of thought which has low strength compare to other schools of thoughts found among pakistani muslims. Furthermore, they dont use the modern means of communication like other religious organizations and due to this reason are unable to spread their message to large number of people. In future, they may continue to grow in number but their overall impact on society will remain minimum due to the reasons mentioned above.

Thanks again and Allaha Hafiz from my side.
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let me also share few things about TJ that it strongly condemns sectarianism. The Ulema of Tableeghi Jamaat unlike other ulemas preach basic ideas of islam according to Quran and Hadith so that we can understand the actual aim of our life. Why we have been creaeted ? Who created us ? What was the purpose of creation of this world ? Is there any life after death ? What should we do being a Muslim ? etc.. These Ulemas inform us the answers of above questions with different examples.

We all should think about it. Holy Quran says about the life of this world:
Surah Hadid. Parah 27. Verse: 20

"Know that the life of the world is but a play and a pastime, and an adornment and a self-glorification among you and vying in respect of riches and children; as the likeness of vegetation after rains whereof the growth pleaseth the husbandmen, then it withereth and thou seest it becoming yellow, then it becometh chaff. And in the Hereafter there is both a grievous torment and forgiveness from Allah and His pleasure, and the life of the world is but a vain bauble".

Then Holy Quran also answers the purpose of our creation in the following verse:

Surah Mulk. Parah 29. Verse: 2

"Who hath created death and life that He might prove you, as to which of you is excellent in actions. And He is the Mighty, the Forgiver"

May Allah guide all of us. You all are requested to listen Molana Tariq Jamil's speeches. You can find his speeches on the following website: www.darsequran.com
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