always try to prove your stance with evidence....you can't generalize these sensitive issues......all mullah's are spreading sectarianism...please be specific and logical......we are also not doing anything for islam if mullahs are not perfect we also have numerous flaws.

following tells how this movement has basis in sectarianism, it is promoting a sect and not serving to unite:


The majority of the Sunni Muslims of Pakistan follow the Ahle Sunnat of the Brelvis with its traditions strongly influenced by Islam's interaction with Hinduism and Christianity in the sub-continent. They venerate sufism, the mystic orders (pirs), spiritual mentors ("gurus") and saints and have the tradition of visiting the graves of their mentors, saints and relatives on important occasions. The majority of the Brelvis are descendants of converts from Hinduism and belong to poor rural classes. Since they cannot afford to go on Haj to Saudi Arabia, their tradition allows them instead to visit the graves of their pirs and saints. These flexible and tolerant traditions had spread in the past from the sub-continent to Afghanistan , the Central Asian Republics (CARs), Dagestan and Chechnya and to other countries where Muslims from the sub-continent have migrated..
The Wahabi-Deobandis of Pakistan, who are in a numerical minority, are the descendants of the original migrants from Central Asia, Afghanistan and the Gulf. They look upon themselves as the high-born (the "Ashraf") and look down on the Brelvis as the low-born (the "Alaf"). Power has largely remained in the hands of the Wahabi-Deobandis, but till 1971 there was no organised, state-sponsored attempt to force the Wahabi religious traditions on the Brelvis.
The alienation of the people of pre-1971 East Pakistan was mainly due to the refusal of the Deobandi high-born of West Pakistan to accept the Bengali Muslims, largely the descendants of converts from Hinduism, as their equals.
The war of 1971 and the separation of Bangladesh and the subsequent appearance of signs of alienation amongst the Mohajirs of Karachi and other urban areas of Sindh, who are descendants of converts from Hinduism from northern India, created fears of another split of Pakistan.
This led to the emergence in the 1980s of a number of Muslim extremist organisations wedded to the policy of ridding Islam in Pakistan of what they looked upon as the corrupting influences of Hinduism and making the Muslims of Pakistan strictly adhere to the Deobandi-Wahabi traditions.
This revivalist movement for the enforcement of Wahabism received encouragement from the late Gen. Zia-ul-Haq, himself a devout Deobandi. He preferred Wahabi-Deobandis for recruitment to the Government services and the armed forces, assisted their madrassas (religious schools) and allowed these madrassas to recruit ex-servicemen for imparting military training to their students. The students of these madrassas played an active role in the war against the Soviet troops in Afghanistan and are the backbone of the Taliban today.
Saudi Arabia, the cradle and citadel of Wahabism, was the main financial backer of the Wahabi-Deobandi organisations of Pakistan. It financed their activities in Pakistan to purify Islam and their participation in the war in Afghanistan. Not only the Saudi intelligence services, but also individual Saudi sheikhs like Osama bin Laden and his father, the owner of a rich construction company, which has the responsibility for the repairs and maintenance of the holy shrines in Saudi Arabia, contributed generously to the funds of these organisations.
Initially a purely Pakistani revivalist movement, with its emphasis more on religious preaching to make the people better Muslims and on proselytisation to convert the non-Muslims to Islam, it became a movement for the export of Wahabism and jehad.
It extended its activities to other countries where, in its perception, there had been similar corruption of Islamic faith and traditions such as India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Malaysia, Southern Philippines, China, the Central Asian Republics (CARs), Chechnya, Dagestan, France, the UK, Belgium, the USA, Canada, the Caribbean, South Africa, Eritrea, Mauritania and Australia.
Its initial objective of ridding Islam of the corrupting influences of Hinduism expanded to cover ridding Islam of the corrupting influences of Christianity, Judaism, communism, the secularism of Turkey and the traditions of the Shia faith. Saudi Arabia and its sheikhs as well as rich Muslim businessmen of Egypt and other Arab countries have been liberally funding the overseas activities of these organisations.
The Saudi support for these organisations is motivated partly by religious and partly by strategic calculations. The religious reason is to expand the influence of Wahabism. The strategic calculation is to counter the influence of Turkey and Iran in the newly-emerged/emerging Islamic countries.
The increase in the activities of Deobandi-Wahabi groups and their tremendous political clout in Pakistan despite their being in a numerical minority have recently led to an attempt by the Brelvis to organise themselves in order to stop the advance of Wahabism with the help of Saudi money.
The Brelvis' Ahle Sunnat organised a rally at Islamabad on April 14,1999, to protest against the alleged demolition of the mausoleum of the Holy Prophet Mohammed's mother, Hazrat Amina, in Saudi Arabia. The initiative for the rally was taken by Aalmi Tanzim Sunnat, a relatively little known Brelvi organisation based in Gujrat. It was co-sponsored by the Jamaat Ahle Sunnat, the Dawaat Islami, the Sunni Tehreek and the students of Brelvi madrassas .
The "News" (April 25) of Pakistan reported as follows on the rally, which was played down by other Pakistani papers and which has not received the attention it deserves in other countries: " The Brelvis cannot be accused of being agents of other countries because their belief system is rooted in the sub-continent and is different from that of most Islamic countries with religious agenda. However, the disadvantage they are faced with is that they do not have as many madrassas (effectively training grounds for militants) as the Ahle Hadith (Wahabis) or the Deobandis. Neither do they have armed outfits.
"In what was perhaps an unprecedented move in Pakistan, speakers at the public rally accused the Saudi Government of being non-Muslim. They went a step further. The participants vowed to kill Saudi citizens everywhere in the world to avenge the demolition of the mausoleum of Prophet Mohammed's mother, if their demands were not met. At least, one speaker described the Saudis as worse than the Jews.
"Using extremely harsh words against Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and President Rafique Tarar, the speakers urged the Pakistan Government to stand up to the blasphemous acts of the Saudi Government and get the sacred mausoleum and others like it restored.

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you may find thousands of articles, i can post here similar articles in the favour of deobandi or tableeghi jamaat, but my question is that is any domain of our lives is devoid of any conspiracy...this is not the situation that we go in that much details...we are not going to initiate a new sect and i myself not at all the supporter of anyone.......my point is that jis ki jo bat achi ho and islam ko contradict na kare use apna lena chahye and jis ki jo bat ghalat ho use chor dena chahye......islam itna limited nai....sectarianism mullahs nai hum bhi spread krne k utne he responsible hain jitne k wo.....because sectarian behas me parna he nai chahye......saudi funding hai or whatever......all people are not bad in a movement......today we have internet...where we can find every kind of information on just a single click....so be simple as our religion is the religion of logic and simplicity.

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what humbugs we r,who pretend to live for beauty and never see the dawn :)

The impact of this Religious movement on pakistani society is that
1 Many New mosques are build and the quantity of Namazi are increasing day by day.
2 The behavior of these people are superb and increasing , they are very kind heated,good nature, impressive and having many more qualities in there character.
3 We feel change in many departments of life they are trust able , they dont have double faced personality, they are available in every society (Elite , middle poor )No doubt that they have qualities of SAHABA (Followers of Prophet Muhammad PBUH).
4Future of this movement is that By the Grace of ALLAH they are increasing very fast(around the world ) and meeting there goals.
Every one is feeling disturbances and facing many problems in life .the only ISLAM is providing peace(Mantely, Physically spiritually)
According to me observation the future is Bright. Inshallah

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you are very rite in your point, but, sects exist to karte hain na, chahe behes karen na karen .. agar pehle tamam sects ke ullema mil beth ke aapas main mutafiq hoke aur phir us hisab se deen kee tabligh karen to ziada acha na ho taake tabligh musalmano ke itehad kaa zariya ban jaaye...

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yes wo to dilemma hai na k ye log agr theek hote to kya baat thi but still...we should do at least what we can do....

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what humbugs we r,who pretend to live for beauty and never see the dawn :)

aoa!
THE very basic purpose of this so-called jamaat,which i believe is the purpose and obligation of every muslim,is to make all ''practisig muslims''...i.e enter ISLAM in every aspect of one's life whether social,economical,political et al.
it aint the preaching of any particular sect.its only ''islamic principles'' which provide the ground to revamp our strayed lives...!
tableeghi-jamaat aint a ''jamaat/group/class'' in its specific terms.its task is TABLEEGh which was the task of all prophets and nw this onus rests to ummat-e-muhammdi(saww)...!
we should pray to God every time to guide us to the straight path because i beleive we can judge in today's era of clashes that who is preaching right.believe me once you have committed that you are intended to reconcile yourself with ALLAH and His din,then its only the ''PRAYER'' to ALLAH that matters and counts,HE will surely tread you the right path.its my experience...!
ALLAH never lets down His man if he ''really'' wants to follow His path.
in a nut shell,dont seek the path.we aint good at judging the right path.its ALLAH who directs us.so spread prayer mat and beg Him that you really wna follow the truth,then see,inshaALLAH,He's not gona disappoint you...!

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*you can tell more about a person by what he says about others than you can by what others say about him*-leo aikman!

Dear they belong to a specific sect ( deobandi) and they preach for deobanism. ager aisa nai hai to q her banda inki jamaat men shamil honay k baad true muslim banne ki bajaey deobandi ban jata hai, aor even bahut se to Najdi ban jatay hain. besides this, they call brailvi as mushrik and shia as kafir. They spread extremism in society and work for the cause of saudi school of thought, jis school of thought ko phailanay kleay saudia ne Turkey k against itehadion ko support kia.
Ye aik aisa fitna hai jo islam ko nuksaan pahunchane kleay khara kia gya hai.
jis ko meri baat pe yakin nai hai voh 400 years pehle k ulema k aqaid parh le, jb ye tafarka bazi nai thi, aor phir khud doodh ka doodh aor pani ka pani hojaega k kon islam se hat k kaam ker rha hai, kis ne islam me amendments ki, aor kon kis kleay kaam ker rha hai. apne school of thought ko protect kerne kleay pooray aalim e islam ko dhashat gardi ki bheent charha dya in naam nihaad islam k khidmat garoon ne.

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salaam to all

i have just read your quotes and very disappointingly telling all of you that where we are going??? some is against deobandis and some are for brelvis??? hum ye sub kuch chor k ye na sochen k hum eik hain? hum muslim hain???deobandi aur brelvi madaris ka naam hain aur kch nhi brelvi k baray jo hain ahmed raza khan brelvi sahab bhi deoband madarsy se parhay hain to phir jhagraa kis chez ka hy???
listen all that tableeghi jamat is not a group is not any kind of jamat and never the people of this jamat give that name "tableeghi jamat", this name is happened that they are "tableeghi" islam ki tableegh karty phirty hain, the perfect name for this jamat is tehreek e IMAAN coz this travail is to built imaan.

hamara imaan kitna kamzor hy is ka andaaza ap apne environment ko deakh k lga skty ho, chalo maan lety hain k brelvi sahi hain Ap (SAWW) k chahny walay hain sunnato per chalny walay hain but sunnat kia hy? jo hmary Nabi(SAWW) ne apni zindagi mein regularly jo kaam kia wo sunnat hy, to Ap(SAWW) ne sb se zyada jo kaam kia apni zindagi men wo logon ko Allah ki taraf bolaya un logon ko jo allah ko bhool gai thai un ki Allah se pehchaan krwai to is hisaab se sub se bari sunnat ye dawat wala kaam hua jo k ye log tableeghi jamat walay kar rahay hain logon ko Allah ki taraf bula rahay hain,

is mein bohat se log kehty hain k Ap(SAWW) ne kaafir ko dawat di muslamano ko nahi aur ye tableegh walay musalmano ko pakar k beth jatay hain, to bhai 23 saal ka nabuwat ka era hy to us mein se 13 saal tak namaz zakaat hajj parda aur bohat se ehkamaat nahi thy 13 saal tak sirf is kalma tayyaba ki dawat aur imaan ki mehnat thi sahaba karam (RA) ne ki aur imaan ko seekha aur Ap(SAWW) ne imaan sikhaya.

to baat chal rahi thi imaan ki to mere bhai deobandi brelvi ye sub choro have a look on our society
jhoot bht bola jata hy, islam jhot bolna sikhata hy????
sood(interest) lia ja rahay hy khuly aam jub k Allah ne wazeh tor per kaha hy k sood walay se Allah ki jung hy, islam sood lena sikhata hy????
etc etc

aur wo bomb blast suicide and all that ap is suicide attackk krne walay ko musalman keh sakty ho but imaan wala nhi kyon k imaan wala ho aur Allah ka hukum tory ho hi nhi skta
musalman namaz chor skta hy but imaan wala ho namaz chory ho hi nhi skta
same as musalman jhot bol skta hy but imaan wala ho jhot boly ho hi nhi skta

khair Allah hum sub ko hidayat de aur puray deen per chalny walay banai

I have not supported any sect, I simply told you people the way to understand reality. Read my post again, you would come to know that I suggested you people to study scholars of 400 before, then it would become clear k maine kia kaha. I hate tablighi jammat due to their wrong, self made, and najadi oriented beliefs

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