Originally Posted by sabahatbhutta

Originally Posted by Farhad Aslam

Your mentioned points are a positive reflection of some good and visible achievements. But question remains, is Pakistan going to get any benefit from these titular honers?
To some extent Pakistan has managed to do so but in some other areas we are still on the corner.
Will Pakistan be able to move the stone of the body of some dead resolutions of UNSC?
Pakistan is an influential member of SAARC but instead of moving ahead we are only trying to check Indian hegemonic desires.
A completely pro Pakistan Afghanistan has shifted into a proxy enemy of Pakistan, I dare to say this on the basis of personal interaction and attitude of Karazai government.

Yes, relations with Russia is a big achievement but what are we going to achieve of it will be interesting to see, as we have got entrance to many elite gangs but never managed to capitalize our presence.

Originally Posted by SADIA SHAFIQ

We do not have achieve nothing in case of Russia . Russia interests is conflicted when Pakistan foreign policy right-hand arm move after period of paralysis . Russia imposed conditions ,like Manmohan Sing have made . Russia said that She would pursue what Kabul would want ! Kabul wanted attack on Pakistan`s territory . USA did not attack ,that`s why drones will continue !

Originally Posted by Farhad Aslam

Your mentioned points are a positive reflection of some good and visible achievements.
Will Pakistan be able to move the stone of the body of some dead resolutions of UNSC?
Pakistan is an influential member of SAARC but instead of moving ahead we are only trying to check Indian hegemonic desires.
A completely pro Pakistan Afghanistan has shifted into a proxy enemy of Pakistan, I dare to say this on the basis of personal interaction and attitude of Karazai government.

Originally Posted by SADIA SHAFIQ

I must appreciate positive rhetoric .Earlier Pakistan had been elected six times for this prestigious body- 1952-53, 1968-69, 1976-77, 1983-84, 1993-94 and 2003-04.So What benefits Pakistan would have gained you have to tell it then . According to me ,it is carrot and stick policy ;reward or punishment .What do you think we should have to supervise national interests of other nations for reward or we have to accept the terms out of fear .

Diplomatic policy should be based on the principle of John .F.Kennedy; One should not negotiate to fear but one should not negotiate out of fear .

And ,I would be obliged if you will increase my information regarding coffee club !

There is an open war scene in sea-lanes of pacific -Asia and sea of Arabia .China wanted to attract Pak and India but USA has succeed in .We ,again surrender our national interests ; IPI line can be used as a barraging chip if we really wanted to keep our national interests high ! Unfortunately are going for TAPI that overlaps USA interests . Pakistan would have to pay 2 million dollar per day at the cut-off date ;2014 to Iran ,If he is not able to construct IP.India left IPI and granted with civilian nuclear deal .What we have do .


In case of Hafiz saeed ,he has been declared terrorist without proofs . And H.Clinton announced bounty for proofs . It is ironical ,what we have done for drone ,drone will like to continue .

Originally Posted by sabahatbhutta

There is none at present who can move that heavy stone, even the sole super power USA can not do it. The world politics is not that simple as it was before the treaty of Verssailles.
Don't you think checking Indian hegemony is a big achievement?
Brother read history, Afghanistan has never been pro Pakistan.



I mentioned the election of Pakistan as a symbol to examplify that Pakistan does possess positive diplomatic relationships with the world countries that is the reason it succeeded in the bid. Obviously much needed to be done
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_Club
visit above link for coffee club.
Pakistan will go for that project which earns her economical and political or atleast one of the both interests. our politicians+establishment can not be both corrupt and naive to make a stupid decision.
Issue of Hafiz Saeed is different, its a pressure tactic nothing to be worreid about. As long as we do not hand him over its not important.

Originally Posted by sabahatbhutta

There is none at present who can move that heavy stone, even the sole super power USA can not do it. The world politics is not that simple as it was before the treaty of Verssailles.
Don't you think checking Indian hegemony is a big achievement?
Brother read history, Afghanistan has never been pro Pakistan.
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Originally Posted by SADIA SHAFIQ

I will discuss one thing . Tell me , Pakistan would oppose Indian`s Permanent membership in UNSC or oppose being a member of coffee club .

Dr.shakeel Afridi is in prison but not on what grounds ; just for providing assistance to Mangal bag. He is an impostor ,CIA contractor like Raymon Davis . Does he got sentence for these charges and on the charge of human rights abuse ?

Hafiz saeed is terrorist .I admit ,but there are no proofs and bounty has been announced who will provide proof .It means he is not proven terrorist.

I knew it is pressure -tactic just India has strong diplomatic skills and power to attract powers . And sarjeet declared him terrorist ,he was released . Is this a good thing ? A person who was involved in bombing and fact is proven .We release it instead of using it as a bargaining chip .

Originally Posted by Farhad Aslam

Then tell me what Pakistan will be able to do as a "MIGHTY" president of UNSC?
World politics is simple for East Timur, Sudan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Algeria and ME but what is wrong with Kashmir issue?
Checking Indian hegemony is a big Achievement if we could do it at International level (which we couldn't), inside the premises of SAARC it doesn't matter much.
Sir, I object your word "never" in third point. I think some pages in your history book are missing Duration from Soviet exit to US attack on Afghanistan there were Pakistani backed setups especially Talibans. Influence of India in Afghanistan was non existent during that era.