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American are neither foe nor friends. They are a donminant power, they are willing to control over the Subcontinent in order to expand their dominancy and markets. Apart from that they give aids to different third world countries, actually it is a part of their diplomacy to strengthen their import and export goods to keep the wheel of their economy moving on... As a matter of fact, in 1952, USA gave the first aid to Pakistan for their own vested interests. Besides, NATO is another thing which has created a big problem for them, as they are crushing every that point/hurdle which is in the way of their national interest. Therefore, America using and exploiting our country to take control over this region.
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America is Foe. America is not friend. He is actually enemy, but we cannot say it openly. As a recently released report said that Every 3rd Pakistani considers USA as an enemy of Pakistan.
But according to my view, Pakistani's are enemy of themselves first. Bczz we are unable to find a exact policy and unable to found a way,that where should we go? We are not using our own resources and letting them destroy. We are going for AID to America and its institutes (IMF, World Bank etc). So they are giving us Aid and they are launching different projects here. So they are doing his in the shape of Development of Pakistan and its people. They are saying it openly. But reality is this America is investing money here in Pakistan for some cause. which is not really known to general public.
If you see the last 66 years of history of Pakistan, you will find that we remain closed to America mostly in different shapes. But we could not get any thing good for us. America is giving us support in different shapes but also attacking on us (Like Salala Check Post, May 2011 attack, Drones attack etc). Also American agency CIA with other agencies of world are playing a bad role on Pakistan. They are supporting Talibanization and other elements, which are destabilizing Pakistan internally. Recent violence is started by foreign powers, I am sure about it.
America is super power and it is playing in all over the world and it is destroying the all Muslims nations and countries. The rulers of Muslim world are helpless and they are scapgoats in the hand of Americans. Iraq, Lubnan, Afghanistan. Syria, Egypt, Libya etc are all victims of worst Muslims history. And behind all events, America is must there. These country's are getting support and much more from USA. Pakistan is also a big victim of this issue.
America is destroying us in different ways. America is enemy of Pakistan. No doubt. BUT Pakistani people are first enemy of themselves. They are not playing there due role and sitting as idle. What ever the case is. Pakistan is destroying first by Pakistanis and then America and other powers.
If you really wants to get out from American's and make a strong Pakistan, then every one have to understand it's own value and role and do work together as a nation. These all are my personal views and there is lot which need to mention, but I hope it will help you all. If there is any wrong, do let me know..
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Apparently, if we (pakistani`s) dont change and take a step against these atrocities and acerbity of America then there is never going to be an change in this atmosphere. we should stop seeking these foreign aids and should produce our own resources, And we all should stop being cynical, and for the first time should take some step against it.
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I would only say that the old game of building an empire through ''Economic Hitman'' started in Pakistan long ago by its ally and friend USA.
Nahh... It started with the Marshal Plan, officially European Recovery Program or ERP .... We have a lots of lessons to learn besides thinking of a grand scheme in historical affairs. The Europeans rebuilt their economies although they still depend heavily upon the United States, whereas we became crawlers (person who pleases someone to gain a personal advantage )
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America is neither a friend nor a foe. It does everything that is in its best interest. And so should be the Pakistan's policy
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America is neither a friend nor a foe. It does everything that is in its best interest. And so should be the Pakistan's policy
relation between two countries based on mutual interest and this statement is quit clear if we take an Bird's eye view on the history of U.S PAK relation. when U.S has need Pakistan became its blue eyed country. same when pakistan needed financial aid. thing is that mutual interest mus be obeyed , but U.S always proved a snake in grass of Land of pure , supper power does not want a stable Pakistan. when pakistan was its serpent in the egg became alloy of U.S with the hope of some relief but it proved all moonshine, hitherto Pakistan even has not made its foreign policy with its own u.s always influenced on it . previous ppp govt tried to seek some relief, but u.s and cj did not let them to do so.. in nut shell it is an open secrat that Pakistani leaders proved at their wits end when they faced U.s president. except Z.A Bhutto. so reforms are suggested in foreign policy. though it is a stumbling block but it is a necessary evil to do. if we conclude it that us is our friend or foe i must say, foe, .....stay blessed
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We are our own biggest enemies.First,we made talibans to protect US interests and now we are fighting talibans to protect US interests and all for one thing 'Money'.

Why wasn't this Sharia Law condition arising before 9/11.It only gained momentum when those terrorists saw that Pakistan being a Muslim country is supporting US.America doesn't respect our sacrifices and asks us to 'do more' all the time.

We,unfortunately have not put things in order internally as well.Our neighbors are like China and India who are competing in world market for well being of its citizens and we are breaking records of corruption.If we had been able to stand on our own feet,we would have had dare to say no to US and believe me US would have had the same fate as Russia in Afghanistan.But now,we have no option but be droned by Americans and suicide bombed by talibans.

We must provide employment to our educated youth and educate those that are falling prey to these exploiters and brain washed lot of talibans.Employment to youth and education to backward areas can do a world of good,otherwise we shall have to live with this mindset.

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For me they are friends. First we should stop taking aid from them, then we should distinguish between them as friend or foe. Keep it Simple
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First of all, we should check the comments and thoughts of the American experts and writers about us;
1> The Heritage Foundation Leadership for America
Pakistan is neither an ally nor an enemy to the U.S.—rather, Pakistan has entirely different security objectives from the U.S. in Afghanistan and in fighting terrorists more broadly. The sooner U.S. policymakers come to grips with this reality, the better chance America has of achieving its objectives in the region.
2> In their famous site "www.americanthinker.com"
All interviewed are still hoping that common ground can be found and see it as a long term project. Michael Hayden, the former CIA Director summarized everyone's feelings that "we want to keep as much cooperation with Pakistan as possible. There is no such thing as a complete ally." With the carrot and stick policy of offering economic incentives yet leaning on them to be a better partner in counter-terrorism, there is still hope that Pakistan will move into the area of being more of a friend than a foe.
My Opinions are hard but right (according to me)
"One step forward, two steps back" before my claiming as friend or enemy for America, I'll share some scenario of its friendship/relationship with us;
Let start from America's favourite time and our lovely Motherlands unfortunate era ; It is strange because the whole thing was started at the behest of Pak army when Mr Musharaf was in charge. So the question is not if US is the enemy but if your own army is the enemy of your own people? A army which doesn't mind fighting US/West's dirty war on its own soil--can you call it the protector of the country or the destroyer?


It hurts but the reality is, such army will be seen as a destroyer. America is bombing FATA on daily basis and there's not a single thing this army is doing to protect the citizens. Which army allows others to bomb its own country, this unique honour goes to Pakistan Army. if we claim FATA to be part of Pakistan than it's the responsibility of the army to protect it. Once, I read in Dawn news paper that an eye witness was sharing his views that when a drone attacked at an innocent citizen's house , I just heard after drone attack that "plz somebody come to help us plz come somebody" and saw none of helpers come there and their children were burning in fire and remained helpless like orphan children.
Real face of America towards Muslims:
Something about being a terrorist of "lesser breeds” tends to become a mindset that disregards national identities. Even Americans can become the objects of American terrorists. American Arabs and Muslims have been the objects of terrorism ever since 9/11.

According to Chris Hedges, “An Arab American, Syed Fahad Hashmi, made provocative statements, including calling America “the biggest terrorist in the world”. That led to his arrest and prosecution on trumped up charges, in much the same way that Professor Sami al-Aryan lost his job and freedom for being an outspoken critic of US and Israeli policy.
my advice to World, " If America really wants to stop terrorism, it needs to stop terrorizing the world."
America is just eradicating the Muslims not Terrorism; hence, the point has been automatically out that America is only the enemy of Islam, enemy of Muslim. It has been defined, America is our open enemy if we do not close our eyes.
In last I want to recite a beautiful words of Holy Quran (a message to America).
Quran Says, "Say: 'He is Allah, the One! Allah, the eternally Besought of all! He begot not nor was begotten. And there is none comparable unto Him.'" --- Al-Quran 112
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