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Ashafaq pervez kiyani served as a COAS for a long period from 2007 to 2013.His military career during this period replete with many ups and downs.He let democracy ran smoothly but there are many other incidents which require sensible discussion like
Alleged role in 3rd Nov emergency
GHQ attack
Abbotabad operation
Memogate secandle
Salala incident
I wish all memebers to participate in this discussion and give your opinion how you see him, as a successful COAS or failed.
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I will add one more incident that makes his role as COAS suspicion i.e, Raymond Davis saga but this incident will never underestimate his role as a successful COAS
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How Ryamond Davis could be trialed in Pakistan?

Do you think that as a Vice chief of army staff Ashfaq kiyani can be considered abetter,aider or collaborator in emergency case?
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Without taking COAS into confidence or consultation,Raymond Davis could not go scott free.If Italian soldiers could be trialed in India for murdering ,intentionally or inadverdantly, a fish catcher ,why should Raymond not be trailed here....Well i think so...Others may differ
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It was an uphill task to command the Army in post 9/11 scenario, the turbulent operational environment on western front tested his nerves. A determined and resolute commander, Kiyani never paid heed to NATO commanders, they made every effort to pressurize him to open a front in North Waziristan against Haqqani network but in national interest he never said yes.

After Salala incident, it was a nerve testing stage but he remained nonchalant and NATO supply route was closed, although it was opened after 7 months but closing it was a brave step.

In 3rd November emergency, General Kiyani was not among those who advised Musharraf but that was political leadership who did. I don't think he has any role in that emergency.

Abbotabad incident was a question mark on his career and a matter of pivotal importance but he took the responsibility and said that he is there to accept any inquiry.

The best thing which marks the success of a Military commander is his reputation among junior ranks and how much the commander can motivate the common soldiers. General Kiyani was termed as سپاھیوں کا سپاھی He always remained on front with soldiers in testing moments like Salala incident, post Mumbai attacks and happy moments like Eid. He always motivated his soldiers and inculcate in them a messianic zeal.

These are some superficial matters but the things that a military commander has to face off the stage can never be intelligible to a common man. The pressures and challenges he face remain hidden from our eyes but certainly his role in tackling such situations is also appreciable.

These are some matters of great importance that took place in his career as a COAS but attacks such as GHQ attack, PNS mehran and PAF Kamra attack are mere terrorist attacks and army leadership has got nothing to do with these attacks.

The best thing is that he established a precedent to support a democratic government and made possible the first democratic transition in this country. So overall his career has been very successful. He was a man of great acumen, sagacity and foresight and his placid and nonchalant composure is yet another mark of his personality as a military commander.
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What international law say about such cases?
He was not a soldier.
Does diplomacy rule allow for his trial under pakistani law?
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For General Kiyani,you all should read Babar Sattar's column in Daily Dawn with title"Judging Kiyani".I think that will be more beneficial for all aspirants.
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Last question not answered by Kiyani was ! Definition of is martyred ?
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Kayani was a good COAS but the incumbant COAS Namely Raheel Shareef is an awesome officer. He has a vision and has introduced new warfare tactics. When He was corps Commander Gujranwallan, I had met him. He is cool minded and friendly.
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