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things have become topsy turvy. equality of gender is associated with the idea that women can now do what men could do in the past. but there is has always been a thing that a man could not do and that was giving birth to child. so much so that a great woman in the past gave birth to a child on her own!!!

value based societies practically sees and respects women as above men. by talking of gender equality they speak of bringing women up to the level of men. but western gender equality is actually bringing women down to the level of men.

men are supposed to walk the streets as workers. women are supposed to stay at home as queens. and when moving out they deserve the protocol any minister would like to have. but thanks to western media...
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Change is towards betterment, how? Lets take an example of today's world power America, despite of their broad mindedness, they never let any women to won the seat of the head of the state but in subcontinent the equation is different, you can yourself figureout.
Women are getting their due share where there is education. I am focusing on education, that education has helped alot in changing trends. We are now discusding the situation of women in Pakistan. If media highlights one or two cases of men brutality against women, why dont they show us that how many women have been empowered by their fathers, brothers or husbands. The factory which manufactured football for fifa worldcup, has major number of female workers and they were happy, because they were earning, for themselves and for their family. I would rather say, the society today is becoming female dominating society, thanks to gender discrimination
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Change is towards betterment, how? Lets take an example of today's world power America, despite of their broad mindedness, they never let any women to won the seat of the head of the state but in subcontinent the equation is different, you can yourself figureout.
Women are getting their due share where there is education. I am focusing on education, that education has helped alot in changing trends. We are now discusding the situation of women in Pakistan. If media highlights one or two cases of men brutality against women, why dont they show us that how many women have been empowered by their fathers, brothers or husbands. The factory which manufactured football for fifa worldcup, has major number of female workers and they were happy, because they were earning, for themselves and for their family. I would rather say, the society today is becoming female dominating society, thanks to gender discrimination
your signature is a verse of the quran... can you please mention the women who have been mentioned in the quran?
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your signature is a verse of the quran... can you please mention the women who have been mentioned in the quran?
By name, only Hazrat Maryam, but mentioned women includes wife of Hazarat Ibrahim, mother and sisterof Hazrat Musa, wife of Muhammad (S.A.W), wife of Pharoah,all pious ladies but there is one who was meant for Hell, the wife of Abu Lahab.
But brother, the Quranic verse is for all who believe, if women are facing hard times, there will be relief and Al Quran says it all.
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By name, only Hazrat Maryam, but mentioned women includes wife of Hazarat Ibrahim, mother and sisterof Hazrat Musa, wife of Muhammad (S.A.W), wife of Pharoah,all pious ladies but there is one who was meant for Hell, the wife of Abu Lahab.
But brother, the Quranic verse is for all who believe, if women are facing hard times, there will be relief and Al Quran says it all.
there were two others who were meant for hell too... one was wife of Hazrat Noah.
and other was wife of Hazrat Lot

my question now is how many women that you mentioned were employed or had jobs??
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there were two others who were meant for hell too... one was wife of Hazrat Noah.
and other was wife of Hazrat Lot

my question now is how many women that you mentioned were employed or had jobs??
All mentioned pious ladies were knowledgeable. Hazarat Bibi Hajra helped Hazrat Ibrahim in the formation of the Holy Kaaba. All prophets were on job, to preach the teachings of Allah and those pious ladied were also given the job to stay on right path without any fear and for this they would be rewarded. A job, a task, for which either you are rewarded or penalized. The meaning of many things changed with time and job is one of them. Hazrat khadija used to do a job, is there any Verse or hadith you can quote, which is against the job of women.
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All mentioned pious ladies were knowledgeable. Hazarat Bibi Hajra helped Hazrat Ibrahim in the formation of the Holy Kaaba. All prophets were on job, to preach the teachings of Allah and those pious ladied were also given the job to stay on right path without any fear and for this they would be rewarded. A job, a task, for which either you are rewarded or penalized. The meaning of many things changed with time and job is one of them. Hazrat khadija used to do a job, is there any Verse or hadith you can quote, which is against the job of women.
you mentioned two women with jobs. hazrat Khadija R.A was a businesswoman right? how many times did she travel to Syria to trade?

and do you have a verse to prove that Hazra Hajra helped Hazrat Ibrahim A.S. in building the Kaaba. was it not Hazrat Ismail A.S.?

and who changed the meanings???
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Businesswomen she was,hence proved that women can even do businesses,and one more thing I want to add here is that women of Muslim soldiers used to go with them in battle fields, like today we have volunteers, and doctors and nurses. Mother of Musa A.S was hired as nurse by Hazrat bibi Asiya. Hazrat bibi Ayesha is the narrator of many hadiths, wives pf Muhammad S.A.W were like his advisors, the meaning of advisor has changed now, the meaning of volunteers has changed now, who changed them? Different fors of education and interpretation has changed them.
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Businesswomen she was,hence proved that women can even do businesses,and one more thing I want to add here is that women of Muslim soldiers used to go with them in battle fields, like today we have volunteers, and doctors and nurses. Mother of Musa A.S was hired as nurse by Hazrat bibi Asiya. Hazrat bibi Ayesha is the narrator of many hadiths, wives pf Muhammad S.A.W were like his advisors, the meaning of advisor has changed now, the meaning of volunteers has changed now, who changed them? Different fors of education and interpretation has changed them.
Businesswoman she was, yes, but never went out to the market.

women accompanied men to the battlefields, yes, but it was a tradition among Arabs. two they went in the capacity of housewives. nurses etc. how many women you can name who actually fought?

Mother of Hazrat Musa was hired as a nurse. didn't need to serve without a roof.

all I am saying is that women served in 'particular' capacities. not all jobs as is the trend today.

the only difference between today and the ancient era is 'electricity'. rest 'everything' is the same.

the modern education system is a result of industrialization. which requires specialized labour. have all the men been employed? men who are responsible for their complete family. so why are women being employed who is responsible only for herself. employment of a man means welfare of a family. employment of a woman means welfare of an individual. 60% of our population lives below poverty line and you think welfare of individuals is progress?

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You may be right that 60 % of country's population is living below poverty line, but the fact is, women population has surpassed men numbers, about more than 10%, it follows another fact that in today's world, a single man cannot generate enough income for his family. According to ESP, the avg household size is around 6 perons, so if women are earning even for themselves,it means 10% is playing its role by not burdening others. But the truth is that majority of women are earning for their families not for themselves only and there are many examples.
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