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In the present climate people are saying good words for Hitler that he killed Jews and that act is really appreciated.They do not even know that was only a drama he just killed few Jews so that Jews can demand Israel,the so called intellectuals of that time presented a theory that Hitler is assassinating Jews so we have to give them land where? Yeah in Palestine we have to make Israel,that was the bullshit theory by the so called intellectuals.
Let me divulge another secret that all the bankers of Hitler who take cares of his money were Jews.
The assassination of Jews were the step towards Israel and totally a drama.
He killed Jews but he was playing Jews card indeed.
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This theory is named Holocaust and it means genocide of Jews and wherever you search you will find majority of books and internet resources proving that it was an actual happening. That is because most of the media (print and electronic) is owned/operated or influenced by Jewish propaganda and they do not let anything against Jews in the market and if someone tries to put any such things in front of public, it is banned in the name of Hate Speech but if similar thing is done against Muslims then it becomes freedom of speech (the double standards of West). Anyway, under the name of this genocide Israel was created as land of Jews. back in July 1995 more than 8000 Muslim men (Note it men only and many a families lost all of their male members including uncles, cousins and distant relatives as well) in Serbia were murdered brutally and this act has been termed as genocide by two international courts then why west is not patronizing Serbian Muslims to create a separate homeland for them? why not a country for them which gets all support from west to become a nuclear power? why an Israel model cannot be propagated on similar grounds in Serbia? just because here are Muslims and there were Jews.

If you create a page on facebook in favor of Hitler or denying holocaust you will see it banned within few hours and your account will be permanently banned as well. Trust me it is true and if you want to test it, go ahead and you will see how West supports Israel. A detailed discussion of holocaust has been put by Hashim Nadeem Ahmed in his novel Khuda aur Muhabbat. We should not hate any human but we certainly hate zionist agenda and we do hate double standards of west.
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I condemn all killing. I do not support Israel, but I'm also not against the state. Every side has many stories. Be well informed. Do not involve yourselves in conspiracy theories and taking sides (emotionally). Be rational.
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Well you may be right that we must not involve ourselves emotionally but look who is clearly condemned in Quran? only yahood. they can never be our friends and they have been disliked by Allah. If we see in this light and then we see that Bait ul Muqadas was our first Qibla and its legacy of Muslims then you can understand that our sacred place where our Prophet was Imam of all Anbiya kraam, and from where he went to Miraaj, and which is so sacred for us, it is in the hands of those who are disliked by Allah.

Ok, now we are more rationale and let them have Bait ul Muqadas and let Israel be there but what about Gaza? what about Genocide going on? I myself read it in newspaper that Israel is planning to take up eastern border because of its needs for expansion in housing and industry. It needs more land so it plans to snatch the land from Muslims because it believes the land is her's. Now what would you say? Ok, again assume that it belongs to them and they should have it. What about those who have been living there since generation after generations? You know why Israel is committing mass murder? to reduce population of Palestine as much as possible so that there remains no Muslim to claim that its their land. Any sane person can comprehend why Israel is attacking someone having no army, no air force and no navy.

Every war has a principle that populated areas would not be attacked but Israel and America believe if anywhere in the world they doubt a person can potentially attack them in future or planning to attack, then they have every right to try to kill him/her and if in the process other innocent people are killed then that is just a small price they will pay so that the all mighty America and their brainchild Israel can live safely in future. I used the word doubt, which means its not essential to ensure that any such threat actually exist but its prerogative of America and Israel to kill anyone only on doubt anywhere in the world except when the person is an American or Israeli national. They would forget all the charters in various peace organizations including UN which are primarily composed by them and the laws laid down by such charters including sovereignty of the target state (we are biggest example i.e. drone attacks in populated areas). They devised a law after 9/11 which clearly states that America will target and kill anyone anywhere in the world if America has any threat from them.

How interesting it is to hear it? You see suppose I am America and for some reason I don't like you, I can easily kill you in your country and your land and wage a story in media. Your family would keep making noise you were innocent but a 1000 conspiracy theories would float and no one would be able to challenge me for your death because I would simply say I had threat from you. You were planning terrorist attacks. Many people would believe you must have done something. Now that something can be just a hatred against me-the America. Can you grant any country in this world the right to attack and kill anyone saying I have threats? just like Israel is doing? and if someone (although a remote thought) proved somehow that America's (in this case Israel's) fear was baseless, then what it would do? It will issue a statement that it was just a misunderstanding and apologize for it. Would it be able to compensate for hundreds and thousands of lives that are being lost in this deadly one sided war?

Israel claims that holocaust was a fact and that Hitler burnt 1200 Jewish families alive. Suppose for a moment it was true and it actually happened then what Israel is doing now? That was a genocide an attempt to end Jewish race from world but what is this- an attempt to eliminate Muslims from the holy land? If they got a land after holocaust why Palestinian Muslims can't get independence with whatever land they have got? Who uses veto power against such resolutions? our beloved America and its allies.

My dear no cogent argument can defy the fact that what is being done is wrong and not just wrong but extremely wrong. War only plants hatred and desire of revenge. Those who lose entire family and see them dying they become psycho patients and can't live normal lives and then what they do? they start thinking that they should take revenge and die in the process because the life is a hell for them now.
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Creation of Israel was the biggest conspiracy against Islam. It is illegitimate baby of USA to protect anti-Islam agenda in Middle East. How on Earth a tiny nation of area 20,770 is existing surrounded on all sides by Muslim Arab Nations which are 650 folds large than total area of Israel i.e 13,486,861 square km.

Also, Supreme irony that such a negligibly small nation state is not only existing but is successfully pursuing its hegemonic designs against Arab & Muslim world maintains supremacy as well.

Whole Arab has not been able to respond effectively to Israel as yet.
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even in their own holy books ALLAH forbade them to make a state because it is better for them not to gather at the same place but finally they made the country according to them,lets wait for ALLAH's punishment.
By ALLAH one day we will crush them...
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On a forum of future Federal Secretaries, I'm amazed to see these type of theories. No doubt our country is going downhill.
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London Review of Books March 23rd 2006

1. http://mearsheimer.uchicago.edu/pdfs/IsraelLobby.pdf

2. http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/john-me...e-israel-lobby

and this ain't a conspiracy theory

i might have posted in the wrong thread . but this document is relevant to more than one thread
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Adolf hitler to my knowledge was against jews, during first years of his rule he let jews get out of germany but when he realised that the world war 2 is lost, he ordered the killing of jews known as "the final solution".
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My Friend i think your theory is totally wrong about hitler being with jews or against them. It does not matter if hitler has some jews working under him, or the whole germany is working under him. Obviously he was an imperialist and he was a feudal of germany, so every one living in his country or the country he dominated will apparently work under him. Nazi was a socialist party remember. But anyway this is totally not an issue. Apparently hitler was not against any religion or any particular group. He just wanted his retaliation and the Piece of land Germany lost in WW1, out of which emerged Poland, and it happens to be in poland the majority was of jews. He would have attacked poland even if muslims were their, even if christians were living their or any other nation or sect. it is an american or other european propaganda and conspiracy against germany. And im not taking any sides, but fact is fact
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