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Question Pakistan got 3rd position among terror hit countries.!!

Out of 162 countries included in Global Terrorism Index(GTI), After Iraq and Afghanistan Pakistan is standing at 3rd.
This is really really bad news.
This is an privilege we have got, after getting the status of having name in only three polio hit countries.
If circumstances will remain the same then we have high chances of even replacing Afghanistan in GTI.

This is eye opener for all of us. This is not just about the no. but more than that. In terrorism we not only lose the precious lives but generations suffer. How children who lose their father forced to discontinue their education and work at tender age. How they suffer psychologically, financially throughout their lives is beyond our understanding. And most of the children get involved in illegal things and may become prey of terrorists. Tomorrow it can be our turn. No one is safe today. And this is result of our bad policies in past.
At international level we are isolated. No one is willing to invest in Pakistan, no one is coming to play in Pakistan. All over the world Pakistan is recognized as a intolerant country, as an exporter of terrorism.

But why we are failing to control terrorism even though we are spending huge amount on terrorism???
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No wonder! The way we are going we'll soon top the list
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Pakistan's position will go down sooner as operation is on which in fact getting better results beyond expectations. So let's hope for good.
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Pakistan's position will go down sooner as operation is on which in fact getting better results beyond expectations. So let's hope for good.
Hope so, but I do not think so as we have just witnessed gruesome attack on Wagah. This attack is reminder that still there are strong sanctuaries of terrorists, and terrorists are operating and carrying attacks successfully.
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Roughly speaking, about 80 percent Pakistanis are supporters of barbarism and terror in the name of religion so peanuts like Zarb-e-Azb will do no good. We have patronage of terrorism in our educational institutes, in mosques and madrases, in parliament and military, in media and just about everywhere. We like to use terror as a part of our foreign policy and give freehand to terrorists on our own soil. So if someone thinks that Zarb-e-Azb will get rid of terrorists in Pakistan, I find it hard to agree. Pakistan is a safe haven for terrorists and will remain so for a long time. It's also possible that our love for terrorism will end up in undoing the entire country. I would say any sane person should set to rest any hopes for a peaceful Pakistan.
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Roughly speaking, about 80 percent Pakistanis are supporters of barbarism and terror in the name of religion so peanuts like Zarb-e-Azb will do no good.
Can you provide a reliable source for this claim? I live in Pakistan, and I'd say over 90% of people are against terrorism in the name of Islam.

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We have patronage of terrorism in our educational institutes, in mosques and madrases, in parliament and military, in media and just about everywhere.
Educational institutes do have religious groups, but I don't believe there is any kind of hate preaching going on at educational premises, not at the university level at least. Perhaps a few teachers at government schools do teach children to hate, that is an issue which can be resolved with better management of our schools. In Parliament, the religious extremist elements are not strong and never have been. The military is largely moderate. Our media is quite liberal. The few religious channels which are on air don't openly preach hatred from what I have seen.

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We like to use terror as a part of our foreign policy and give freehand to terrorists on our own soil.
These are simply baseless accusations leveled on Pakistan. Sad to see our own people believing them.

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So if someone thinks that Zarb-e-Azb will get rid of terrorists in Pakistan, I find it hard to agree. Pakistan is a safe haven for terrorists and will remain so for a long time. It's also possible that our love for terrorism will end up in undoing the entire country. I would say any sane person should set to rest any hopes for a peaceful Pakistan.
If you seriously believe that extremists can take over Pakistan or be the cause of its undoing, you are gravely mistaken. There is not an iota of a possibility that Pakistan will be taken over by, or disintegrate because of religious or political extremists. This is not to say that I don't consider terrorism or any other kind of extremism to be a serious threat; indeed, they can and do hurt us seriously, but there is no chance of Pakistani society capitulating to extremists. The simple reason is that the moderate and peace loving Pakistanis far outnumber the few extremists and foreigners who are a part of 'The Great Game', if you know what I mean.
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Because we are not sincere in eliminating it. Terrorism also include sectarian terrorists but we have them in our political campaigns. We don't millitants on our soil but we use them in Afghanistan as "strategic partners". we do not take actions target killers because then we loose support of some political parties in parliment. Moreover, we do not do anything to finish the breeding grounds of terrorists. we do not provide people of FATA and Balochistan with basic facilities of life.
we have had another achievement in recent days.Pakistan has secured position on the "2014 Global Slavery Index" conducted by WALK FREE FOUNDATION. According to this survey 2.1 million Pakistanis come under the definition of MODERN SLAVES. modern slavery include debt bondage, forced labour, prostitution, forced marriages etc.

ranked 3rd on GLOBAL SLAVERY INDEX
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Can you provide a reliable source for this claim? I live in Pakistan, and I'd say over 90% of people are against terrorism in the name of Islam.
Okay, here’s a glimpse.

About 75% Pakistanis believe that people who choose to leave Islam should be killed. About 86% believe that adultery should be punishable by stoning. The rest consists of “silent” and “moderate” Muslims who just like to shut their mouths and ignore all bigotry.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/01/ni...orlds-muslims/

If 75% of Muslims believe that apostates should be killed, I’m guessing more than 90% believe in other medieval punishments and practices such as amputation of limbs and such. Can’t be called moderate by any stretch of imagination.

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Educational institutes do have religious groups, but I don't believe there is any kind of hate preaching going on at educational premises, not at the university level at least. Perhaps a few teachers at government schools do teach children to hate, that is an issue which can be resolved with better management of our schools. In Parliament, the religious extremist elements are not strong and never have been. The military is largely moderate. Our media is quite liberal. The few religious channels which are on air don't openly preach hatred from what I have seen.
Forget about religious groups and all that (although that too exists in abundance, just take a look at one of the biggest universities, University of the Punjab). Take a look at the educational curriculum taught in the schools – private as well as public – where religious bigotry, hatred against people of other religions, glorifications of invaders and plunderers, and similar aspects as taken as articles of faith. Just a glimpse.

Speaking of media, people can write and talk about killing of apostates, they can write in favor of Taliban and even ISIS, they can invite religious bigots and terrorists on TV as guests and ask their expert opinion about the affairs of the state – if this is not supporting bigotry, then we need a new definition.

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These are simply baseless accusations leveled on Pakistan. Sad to see our own people believing them.
I see. Do you deny that we used Taliban for enacting a radical government in Afghanistan? Do you deny that freehand was given to sectarian and radical outfits, particularly during the Afghan “Jihad”, to sprout up all over the country and train kids for Jihad and all sorts of fanaticism? There are many other things – using religious fanaticism to counter nationalist movements, supporting Jihadis like Hafiz Saeed (by the way, the dude still enjoys this support) for “Jihad” in Kashmir and such - I can site but you would brush them aside as conspiracy or some mysterious “Great Game” so I would only stick to these two matters. What do you say?

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outnumber the few extremists and foreigners who are a part of 'The Great Game', if you know what I mean.
No, I would like you explain this a bit. You mean Jew+CIA+Indian conspiracy against Ummah thingy and Pakistan, right?
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I can not say in terms of Percentage but majority of Pakistani do support terrorism, have soft corner for terrorists, do not condemn it.
And this is deeply rooted in our nerves which can not be eliminated easily just through operations. If operations guaranty elimination of terrorism then recently we would not have witnessed the killing of Christian couple.
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I can not say in terms of Percentage but majority of Pakistani do support terrorism, have soft corner for terrorists, do not condemn it.
And this is deeply rooted in our nerves which can not be eliminated easily just through operations. If operations guaranty elimination of terrorism then recently we would not have witnessed the killing of Christian couple.
the main reason of this logic is bad and weak leadership of pakistan because the leaders failed to deliver good government therefore people support militant and terrorism........
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