Vaccancies in Local Council Board Government of KPK

[mohsinali303]

Originally Posted by The Manager

Brother please can you explain the rules of recruitment in LCB based on LCs PUGF Rules 1981.?? What rule the LCB has violated which is mentioned in LCs PUGF Rules 1981.? please inform us as it will be very productive in future.

Points to be raised during Hearings:

1) Hiring is not in accordance with advertisement.
2) Graduation was criteria to apply why extra marks are given to higher qualification.it was not advertised.
3) There should be minimum threshold for shortlisting candidates,as per NTS marks.practice followed in rest of cases.
4).what was the reason for delay and why merit list was not made public and letters were issued.

[Illusionist88]

Originally Posted by The Manager

Brother please can you explain the rules of recruitment in LCB based on LCs PUGF Rules 1981.?? What rule the LCB has violated which is mentioned in LCs PUGF Rules 1981.? please inform us as it will be very productive in future.

They have violated ESTA codes by ignoring higher qualification and Test.Why that much expensive test was conducted.?

[Illusionist88]

Originally Posted by mohsinali303

Points to be raised during Hearings:

1) Hiring is not in accordance with advertisement.
2) Graduation was criteria to apply why extra marks are given to higher qualification.it was not advertised.
3) There should be minimum threshold for shortlisting candidates,as per NTS marks.practice followed in rest of cases.
4).what was the reason for delay and why merit list was not made public and letters were issued.

Dear higher qualification has extra marks and it does not need to be advertised.Moreover higher qualification in this case has been ignored.Test cut off marks should be over 70, as the practice has been observed in many NTS tests.

[The Manager]

Originally Posted by Illusionist88

Dear higher qualification has extra marks and it does not need to be advertised.Moreover higher qualification in this case has been ignored.Test cut off marks should be over 70, as the practice has been observed in many NTS tests.

As per my information LCB has valued higher qualification as i by my ownself has seen the list of shortlisted candidates in which all the applicants have more than 80% aggregate percentage. All the shortlisted candidates have out standing %ages in SSC, FSc, BA/BS(Hon), Masters & MS etc. Besides, they have set the threshold marks in test as 60% and after that aggregate is calculated as mentioned above.Besides, they have also been considering the weight age of experience.
And last but not the least LCB is an autonomous body which is governed by the Board Of Directors (Syndicate), and these members have all the powers of setting the formula for recruitment because they are not bound to ESTA Code rules. These rules are followed by provincial civil services & the exams conducted by KPK Public service commission. That is why LCB conducted the test though NTS. In addition to it i would like to inform you and all my friends that according to KP civil Servant Act-1973 which is still in act says that the governor has the right to delegate a person or body to set out the process for recruitment.(BOD of LCB is entrusted by the governor to carry out its own recruitment process and that is why they conducted the test through NTS and so on put forward the criteria for selection & shortlisting). And one thing more LCB is following the same procedure as was followed by the newly developed departments in KPK Government like KPK-OGRA, KPK BOIT, IMU Health & IMU Education etc, in all these departments (Authorities), esta code rules are not followed as these are autonomous bodies like LCB.

[Illusionist88]

Originally Posted by The Manager

As per my information LCB has valued higher qualification as i by my ownself has seen the list of shortlisted candidates in which all the applicants have more than 80% aggregate percentage. All the shortlisted candidates have out standing %ages in SSC, FSc, BA/BS(Hon), Masters & MS etc. Besides, they have set the threshold marks in test as 60% and after that aggregate is calculated as mentioned above.Besides, they have also been considering the weight age of experience.
And last but not the least LCB is an autonomous body which is governed by the Board Of Directors (Syndicate), and these members have all the powers of setting the formula for recruitment because they are not bound to ESTA Code rules. These rules are followed by provincial civil services & the exams conducted by KPK Public service commission. That is why LCB conducted the test though NTS. In addition to it i would like to inform you and all my friends that according to KP civil Servant Act-1973 which is still in act says that the governor has the right to delegate a person or body to set out the process for recruitment.(BOD of LCB is entrusted by the governor to carry out its own recruitment process and that is why they conducted the test through NTS and so on put forward the criteria for selection & shortlisting). And one thing more LCB is following the same procedure as was followed by the newly developed departments in KPK Government like KPK-OGRA, KPK BOIT, IMU Health & IMU Education etc, in all these departments (Authorities), esta code rules are not followed as these are autonomous bodies like LCB.

NO NO in IMU the cut of marks were set at 74, while here they intentionally set it upto 60, otherwise they would set it above 75.They candidates they were interested to select could not score high, so they came from the other side.Moreover they are of the view that they have followed ESTA codes, I have checked the merit list they have ignored higher qualification.If some body having experience cant score 70+, how can he be awarded with 10 extra marks? I met personally secretory, deputy secretory LCB and LG as well as Minister LG, they all were of the view that we are following ESTA codes, but we have not included higher qualification. There was an employee of LG in Secretariat who scored 73, have experience more than 5 years and MS, but still he was ignored.He told us that Minister LG has his own people who are included and the criteria has been averted to accommodate those.There are people in the list who were fail in NTS test but eventually they found a way to be shortlisted.Minister LG is committed to select Jammat People as much as he can, that is why they waited for one year, otherwise the list they prepared is work of just one day.

[Naveed Mohmand]

Originally Posted by Illusionist88

NO NO in IMU the cut of marks were set at 74, while here they intentionally set it upto 60, otherwise they would set it above 75.They candidates they were interested to select could not score high, so they came from the other side.Moreover they are of the view that they have followed ESTA codes, I have checked the merit list they have ignored higher qualification.If some body having experience cant score 70+, how can he be awarded with 10 extra marks? I met personally secretory, deputy secretory LCB and LG as well as Minister LG, they all were of the view that we are following ESTA codes, but we have not included higher qualification. There was an employee of LG in Secretariat who scored 73, have experience more than 5 years and MS, but still he was ignored.He told us that Minister LG has his own people who are included and the criteria has been averted to accommodate those.There are people in the list who were fail in NTS test but eventually they found a way to be shortlisted.Minister LG is committed to select Jammat People as much as he can, that is why they waited for one year, otherwise the list they prepared is work of just one day.

Also, even if we assume that the cut off is 60 marks in NTS then they should conduct another test of all those who are 60 and above (Just like kppsc did in tehsildar test) for further shortlisting and then the qualification and experience should be taken into account.

[faheem khattak 111]

THE MANAGER
Brother this is your own introspection and I congratulate you on being shortlisted for the interview with a score of 69 marks in NTS.
As per your opinion, I beg to differ. LCB is an autonomous body but the advertisement says the POSTS will be filled under the PUGF rules 1981. Nowhere in PUGF rules the preference provision is mentioned nor does it speak anything about the selection criteria. In the absence of such like provisions, The KPPSC regulations 2003 applies. If you get a chance go through the KPPSC regulations 2003 you will get the better idea.
Secondly, I agree to you on the powers conferred by the Governor on a selection committee to make appointments , but it does not mean that the selection committee should violate the standard procedure opted by KPPSC and ESTA CODE.
Overlooking the NTS test score as well as the academia and advertisement, and solely relying upon the experience factor is an extreme form of mockery on the part of LCB with all the candidates.
Autonomous body does not mean to do their whim , they will be held responsible if they abuse the general process and since they have violated all the prevailing services rules as well as their PUGF rules, they need to go through the shortlisting again. As justice should not only be done but it should be seen to be done.

[mohsinali303]

Originally Posted by The Manager

As per my information LCB has valued higher qualification as i by my ownself has seen the list of shortlisted candidates in which all the applicants have more than 80% aggregate percentage. All the shortlisted candidates have out standing %ages in SSC, FSc, BA/BS(Hon), Masters & MS etc. Besides, they have set the threshold marks in test as 60% and after that aggregate is calculated as mentioned above.Besides, they have also been considering the weight age of experience.
And last but not the least LCB is an autonomous body which is governed by the Board Of Directors (Syndicate), and these members have all the powers of setting the formula for recruitment because they are not bound to ESTA Code rules. These rules are followed by provincial civil services & the exams conducted by KPK Public service commission. That is why LCB conducted the test though NTS. In addition to it i would like to inform you and all my friends that according to KP civil Servant Act-1973 which is still in act says that the governor has the right to delegate a person or body to set out the process for recruitment.(BOD of LCB is entrusted by the governor to carry out its own recruitment process and that is why they conducted the test through NTS and so on put forward the criteria for selection & shortlisting). And one thing more LCB is following the same procedure as was followed by the newly developed departments in KPK Government like KPK-OGRA, KPK BOIT, IMU Health & IMU Education etc, in all these departments (Authorities), esta code rules are not followed as these are autonomous bodies like LCB.

why Threshold is 60 when sufficient candidates are above 70 and 75.

In every Exam only top scorers are invited for interview not average scorer.

[ADIL KHESHGI]

Originally Posted by Illusionist88

He told us that Minister LG has his own people who are included and the criteria has been averted to accommodate those.

He's the most experienced guy in corruption, especially in appointing and transferring gov't officials. Once upon a time, I appeared in a test at the Provincial Assembly building (Recruitment for Assistant Secretaries), there were 50 questions, barring one question I attempted the balance. The test was a piece of cake for me as I'd attempted PMS and CSS recently. When I inquired about the result, the officials told me that the appointments have been made as per the merit, then I came to know that Mr. Inayatullah had recommended two names-this is their Islam😠
PS: Well, Mr. The Manager would have been cursing these corrupt practices if he'd have been sitting on the other side of the aisle😊. If experience and higher qualifications was that much important then they should have called me for the interview cause I've got both (MPhil in Local Government and District Administration&#128539: test score is 69.
Good luck friends!

[smzmaria]

What will happen now , How much time will court take to clear this issuse ? I think we will have to wait for one year more