The concept of Peer-o-Murshad in Islam

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I would really like to know wether it is allowed to have some one as peer/murshad or not by our religion? People are requested to comment with authentic references and please dont mingle the peer/murshad concept with our daily in seen show-cased characters. I'm quite particular to the spirtual bondage of such connection.


Kind regards,

[Andrew Dufresne]

You might find this thread useful: What is Sufism?

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Originally Posted by Andrew Dufresne

You might find this thread useful: What is Sufism?

Information shared, has really increased my understanding to the concept of "sufism" However, I remained unable to find my answer.

Jazak Allah for the effort initiated.

God bless you.

[tx_ned]

Dear brother,

Some sects prefer to have a Peer (A guide) but some are against this practice.

One common thing between both sides is "their rigidity" on their stand.

Andrew Dufresne has rightly guided you to the thread which il cover the basic concept regarding this topic.

I do respect your thrill to explore the topib but I can easily conceive that this topic would have to close in later stage if both sides could participate.

We don't have enough patience to listen opposite sect so if difference of opinion rises here; it would involve in great emotional debate.

Even both sides of the participants will give you solid arguments and we il get more confused.

Iqbal, a great scholar, has truly commented about this system by admitting the sensitivity of this issue:


یہ معاملے ہیں نازک جو تیری رضا ہو تو کر
کہ مجھے تو خوش نہ آیا یہ طریق خانقاہی


Regards

[Last Island]

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Tx_ned is right. The best thing to do in this regard is to consult a religious scholar of your own figh.

[Yasinleo]

No need to consult any scholar just read Quran u will find ur answers, the word murshid is taken from rushud dat mean a guidence,"hold strongly the rope of Allah n do not divide in groups" ayat from Quran.Quran will guide u the right path n is the best guidence for human beings.for further details read the last sermon of holy prophet p.b.u.h Allah,Muhammad p.b.u.h and Quran is the right way to live.

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Originally Posted by tx_ned

Dear brother,

Some sects prefer to have a Peer (A guide) but some are against this practice.

One common thing between both sides is "their rigidity" on their stand.

Andrew Dufresne has rightly guided you to the thread which il cover the basic concept regarding this topic.

I do respect your thrill to explore the topib but I can easily conceive that this topic would have to close in later stage if both sides could participate.

We don't have enough patience to listen opposite sect so if difference of opinion rises here; it would involve in great emotional debate.

Even both sides of the participants will give you solid arguments and we il get more confused.

Iqbal, a great scholar, has truly commented about this system by admitting the sensitivity of this issue:


یہ معاملے ہیں نازک جو تیری رضا ہو تو کر
کہ مجھے تو خوش نہ آیا یہ طریق خانقاہی


Regards

Thanks brother for such respect!

well dear I completely understand your point and agree with no shade of doubt.
However, if you will consider me an exception between both sects, i am really look forward to hearing with presistant patience because my purpose of knowing is "Limitation" oriented instead of "Comparison".

I'm already surrounded by both sects arguments which put me in sheer confusion, as righlty anticipated by you. Perhaps, considering the forum's reputation i thought if some one is here with authentic Quranic refrences to make me stand with percepted consolation.

I had sent the same question to Islamic Research Foundation (owned by Dr.Zakir Naik) 6 months ago, but there was no response by now.

Jazak Allah for the time reserved.

Originally Posted by Last Island

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Tx_ned is right. The best thing to do in this regard is to consult a religious scholar of your own figh.

Sure! I will

Originally Posted by Yasinleo

No need to consult any scholar just read Quran u will find ur answers, the word murshid is taken from rushud dat mean a guidence,"hold strongly the rope of Allah n do not divide in groups" ayat from Quran.Quran will guide u the right path n is the best guidence for human beings.for further details read the last sermon of holy prophet p.b.u.h Allah,Muhammad p.b.u.h and Quran is the right way to live.

Dear can you please refer me to a particular "SURAH" so that i may read in the subject matter?

Have a look at an article's ("Awliya, Peer-o-Murshid, Waseelah")
extraction by G.A. Parwez translated by A.S.K Joommal.

I personally have no idea about the credibility of the writer since i belive that there is no harm in having a Murshid, the one who can put you near the Allah Subhanu Tallah. Thus, after reading this article i got confused as the information is backed by certain references.)

It is said (by the Peeri-Mureedi gentlemen) that they turn to and follow the "Awliya-Allah" because they will bring them (the mureeds) nearer to Allah since they themselves (the Awliya-Allah) are near to Allah. The Quran has categorically refuted this belief in the following words:
"Surely we have revealed to thee the Book (Quran) with truth, so SERVE ALLAH, BEING SINCERE TO HIM IN OBEDIENCE. Now surely sincere obedience is to Allah (alone). And those who choose Awliya besides Him (say): ‘We serve them (the Awliya) only because they may bring us nearer to Allah’. Surely Allah will judge between them in that in which they differ. Surely Allah guides not him who is a liar, ungrateful." (39:2-3)
We must remember that:
"he whom Allah guides, is on the right path; and he whom he leaves in error, you will not find for him a WALEE or MURSHID." (18:17)
"Walee" means one who may be obeyed, and "Murshid" is one who shows the correct path. Only Allah is the "Walee" and "Murshid" (and NO human being!) Allah is obeyed through His Book, the Holy Quran, which has been revealed for the guidance of mankind.


Now please have a look at this;

"Yaa Fareed, Yaa fareed"
(This story, incidentally, is attributed to many other Awliya as well!!)
The story is told of Hazrat Baba Fareed who was living on this side of the sea. Each morning he used to leave home (to go to his Khaanqaah) and behind him his mureed followed. On arriving at the shore, he used to cross the sea without the aid of a ship or bright. He used to come home in the evening in the same manner, i.e., walking on water. He had given strict instructions to his mureed that while walking on water, he must keep repeating "Yaa Fareed". Many years passed in this wise. One day, however, while walking on water, the mureed heard that Baba Fareed was muttering some words. When he strained his ears to catch the words, he heard that the Baba Saheb was uttering: "Yaa Allah, Yaa Allah."
The mureed thought that why should he not also say "Yaa Allah" instead of "Yaa Fareed". But the moment he uttered "Yaa Allah", he fell into the water with a heavy splash, and began to drown.
Baba Saheb saved him. Upon reaching the shore, he asked his mureed as to what happened. Shivering, and in fear, he revealed the truth, whereupon the Baba Saheb said: "Did you ever see Allah? Have you any contact or communication with Him?" The Mureed answered in the negative. Khwaja Fareed then asked: "How can you call for your assistance a Being Whom you do not know, and with Whom you have no connection? Fareed calls on Allah because Fareed has a direct link with Him. You must call upon Fareed because you have dealings with Fareed. On the day that you establish a direct communication with Allah, you too may call upon Him."

what to say ????
Anyways, a Islamic scholar must be with right answer.

Kind regards,

Muhammad Waseem Azam