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Whenever i see people leaving pakistan for greener pastures in Europe, USA, Australia and Canada, i feel tempatation to follow them and enjoy life in a developed country with maximum facilities, financial freedom and diginty. I wonder is this type of feelings quite common here ? or in other words, would you avail the oppourtunity of stteling abroad, if you get one ? What are the pros and cons of leaving Pakistan and settling in another society ? Plz share your views.
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First of all, a nice topic!

Dear Sociologist, it always depends, there are hundreds, may be thousands living in Pakistan having green cards, immigrants, nationalities of developed countries yet they prefer to stay here in Pakistan even in Karachi with hottest law and order temperature!

Certain reasons stop them not to move permanently, visiting abroad, even living their for some years is easy but for permanent shifting, it needs lots of things, esp., relatives, business setup, respect you get here, recognition even for poor in his/her area, emotional attachment, freedom of doing whatever you want, religious view (although we are modernized), lesser taxes, environment (which is mediocre here).

Its psychology of those middle-classes who neither maintain standard of living here nor go abroad easily, they are crazy about going abroad and living a slave life for life!

No doubt that love for LAND has decreased due to Media, as it’s portraying Pakistan as worst country of the world, showing each and every negative report as BREAKING NEWS for months!

Don't forget, it’s our beloved PAKISTAN, our identity, our motherland, or only universe inside this world! Believe it, live for it, die for it!

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Living abroad is like hoteling; you'll enjoy it, but you'll never feel at home.

Its a dilemma for us & no one can predict the outcome of such a move. It depends on many a calculations and compromises, plus varies from case to case, person to person & country to country. Most of all, it depends on one's preference for the taste of life that this 'hell' or those 'heavens' offer.

I know people who are comfortable abroad, well settled & when they come back, they feel like needing a rehabilitation here in this environment. But then some prefer the Pakistani-style life that MBA discussed. Its all very relative.

If you have a chance; go for it and have the experience.
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Well, there was a time when only unemployed and low educated people were interested in going abroad and their destination was Middle East. Now the trend has changed as well-educated, employed and resoursefull people are interested in settling abroad. About a dozen of my colleagues have left Pakistan in past 2/3 years for Canada and Australia. They were in Gov. service, well-educated and well-settled here. I wonder what are the the factors that compelled these people to resign and go abroad ?
It seems to me that we lack something in our country/society that is essential for the satisfaction of a good life, because the migration that we are observing these days is not Economic Migration but something else. That is what i am trying to find out, i.e the reasons of migration of well-settled, well-educated people from Pakistan to other developed countries of the world.
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According to sociologists, migration is countered by re-migration.
When some ones are migrating to some country, the previous migrants are returning back as well.
It is caused because a migrant after facing and countering many problems in his new place, at a time get tired, and want to return back, if there is some link left between him and his previous society of his home country.
The bond between you and your basic society if strong, then it always keep on pulling you back to homeland.
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Pakistan's social, economic, political, law n order conditions are very bad and going towards worst conditions day by day, survival is a basic instinct of every living being, Migration is not a bad thing it is also allowed in islam.

If some one feel that he /she can have better life any where else in the world he /she can go n enjoy life
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Well, there may be many factors that push educated pakistanis to go and settle abroad in developed countries. Some of them can be described as under;

1- Corrupt system of government
2- Law & order situation
3- Double standards of society
4- No diginty of labour
5- Low education standard
6- No chances of growth in career
7- unhealthy environment
8- Low income

There may be several more depending on individual circumstances which can be added in the list.
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pakistani people residing in USA can reveal the story better.they can expose the reality of the limitations of their life there as they r afraid of celebrating eid if it coincide 11 sep anniversary.
i personally prefer to leave pakistan because of the denial of women rights.
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Living abroad is fantastic! I have been to Europe and had a blast there for five years. I had, liberty, freedom, dignity, honor and a hell lot of fun. None can enslave you as long as you know the trick of life which is; input of money should be grater than output of it.

I was in London and life was hell there. I though I had made a worst decision to be there. However, soon I moved to a much smaller and less populace area e.g Cardiff city. Life there was amazing.

I have been to Germany, Holland, Belgium and France for holidays and find the places like heaven. Developed countries have people from all over the world, therefore its not difficult to find practices of your own culture and religion.
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Good point by seep.

Denial of women rights is also a problem here, which we (the men) often ignor. But due to this factor a woman cant migrate at her own as she is dependent on some male member of the family and need the support of a father,brother or husband.
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