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y we called syedna hazt uthman and umer(R.A) jub ke unky naslien to siddique ya farooqi kehlaty hain?
2.hum hazt Ali(R.A) ke gair fatmi o'olad ko alvi q khty hain.
3. Najib ut tarfin to syedna imam zain ul abdin th to baqi syed kahan c agae?
4.gardizi kaun ce syed hoty hain
i couldn't get ur first question.
2. syeds are called so because of Hazrat Bibi Fatima (a.s) thats why the off springs of Hazrat Ali a.s and Hazrat Fatima are called syeds.
3. Hazrat imam Zain-ul-abideen ki olad me sy hi baqi syed b aye hn. there are 12 imam, starting from Hazrat Ali k.w till imam Mehdi Akhir-uz-zaman....
4. i don't know abt gardaizi syeds
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Pathan Syed?


There are many sayeds with different names, those belong to different fiqah & cast. likewise gardizi sayeds esp.belong to Pathan cast, you won't find gardizi sayeds in any other castes.
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likewise gardizi sayeds esp.belong to Pathan cast, you won't find gardizi sayeds in any other castes.
Not true, you could find gardizi syeds in Kashmir too, its not specific to Pathans.
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Syeds are Syeds only. There is nothing like pathan syed or sheikh syed, or awan syed. No doubt there are fake Syeds too. Once my classfellow told me "Hamari gali main jo doodh wala hai, wo Syed ho gya hai last week".
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Both answers of Q.# 2 & 3 are 100% right.
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Ahla-al bayt means people of the home of AnHazrat P.B.U.H.

Syed is taken as the descendants of Hazrat Ali r.a. and Hazrat Fatima r.a. It is Arabic word, which means Chief of tribe or an honored man, this is the reason that in many Arabian countries any respectable man is called Syedi/Syed etc. The word is taken as superiority/upper hand in everything/anything, anytime, anywhere and at any place. The so called superiority, which do not coincide with the sermons of AnHazrat p.b.u.h and words of Quran narrated by Allah Almighty, most specifically the last sermon is devoid of any thing for superiority for any tribe or clan.

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Ahle Bayt include Hasrat Ali RA, Hazrat Fatima RA, Hazrat Imam Hassan RA and Hazrat Imam Hussain RA.

Syeds (sunni and shia) are their descendents.
No, all wives of AnHazrat p.b.u.h are also termed as Ahle Bayet. As per ayat 34 of Surah Ahzab, Allah Almighty calls all wives of AnHazrat p.b.u.h as Ahle Bayet. Quran says it, so no body can differ!
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Syeds are Syeds only.
Crux of the discussion, samandar ko kozey mein band kar diya aap ne.

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There is nothing like pathan syed or sheikh syed, or awan syed. No doubt there are fake Syeds too. Once my classfellow told me "Hamari gali main jo doodh wala hai, wo Syed ho gya hai last week".
Very right, a mushroom growth indeed.
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Syeds are Syeds only. There is nothing like pathan syed or sheikh syed, or awan syed. No doubt there are fake Syeds too. Once my classfellow told me "Hamari gali main jo doodh wala hai, wo Syed ho gya hai last week".



yes I do agree.
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Descendants of Kahtun-e-Jannat Bibi Fatima-az-Zahra (a.s) are Syeds only and rest belong to their fathers' caste.

Since, Ali-e-Muteza (a.s) married more than one woman, so his kids from other wives are called as Alawis, and not syeds. (Hazrat Abbas Alamdaar was an Alawi from Um-ul-Baneen)

All Hashimis are not Syeds! but all syeds are Hashimis!

You can also find a variety of fake Syeds as well.
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No, all wives of AnHazrat p.b.u.h are also termed as Ahle Bayet. As per ayat 34 of Surah Ahzab, Allah Almighty calls all wives of AnHazrat p.b.u.h as Ahle Bayet. Quran says it, so no body can differ!

Ayat number 33.








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