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why are you calling muavia as syedna (r.a).
he was a bad character...
i was shocked to know that he was the person who killed hazrat aisha r.a (u can check on internet)
Dear brother we love and respect all the companions of Holy Prophet(PBUH), Caliph Hazrat Ameer Muawiya(RA) was katab-e-wahi (who use to write the Quran while Prophet would recite it to Him);and katab-e-wahi's were most trusted companions of Holy Prophet (PBUH).
I am not saying that He was perfect;neither am going back to Islamic history and Political turmoils. but the Person whom the Prophet of Allah choose as katab-e-wahi must not be cursed.

please come back to Original topic.as you have provided very useful information regarding my Quires. God bless you
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agar nasal baap (mard) ke naam se chalti ho (as is commonly believed), pir sayyid, Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) ki nasal kese hain kyonke unki to koi narina aulad to nahi ti (I know that He has sons but they didn't survive)?
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I think the answer to imbindas's question has been clearly delivered by many members, so this thread should be closed, as I smell an argument over religious differences!

Still if people differ about Saadat's origin, thats their point of view and beliefs and they are definitely not gonna change! so our focus should be on piety and virtue, not caste and creed really!

@ Newstudent: Nabi SAWW ki Wahid nasl hai is dunia main jo Beti se chali! or ji none of His sons survived!
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agar nasal baap (mard) ke naam se chalti ho (as is commonly believed), pir sayyid, Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) ki nasal kese hain kyonke unki to koi narina aulad to nahi ti (I know that He has sons but they didn't survive)?
It is also one of the excellences of Hazrat Fatima RA that her progeny resumed the lineage of descendence of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) and this will remain upto the Last Day.

Rasulallah (PBUH) said:

“All the offspring of Adam (A.S.) are attributed to their paternal relatives, except the progeny of Fatima that I am their father and their paternal link.”
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agar nasal baap (mard) ke naam se chalti ho (as is commonly believed), pir sayyid, Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) ki nasal kese hain kyonke unki to koi narina aulad to nahi ti (I know that He has sons but they didn't survive)?
according to sura 3 verse 61 imam HASSAN a.s and HUSSAIN a.s are the sons of HAZRAT MUHAMMAD(SAAWW).
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It is also believed that there are fake syeds. I have heard that authentic syeds are only Jordan's rulers Others may or may not be syeds.

Also I have heard that original syeds have their "family tree" (Shajra e nasab: I don't know what is its english translation) document kept within their family for centuries and this is considered their proof of being syed.
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@ Newstudent
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I think this thread should be closed as the thread starter has got his answer.... if it is not closed it will create controversy, we all have imperfect knowledge about the things being discussed here... please mods its a humble request to close the thread....
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Please share the source of the hadees, which you have quoted in reply to my query.
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Please share the source of the hadees, which you have quoted in reply to my query.
Mjkhan has given the reference. See Ayat number 61 of Surah Aal e Imran. For details read second last paragraph of tafseer.

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