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farah zafar, can you tell me your opinion please, what should man do if he finds out about his wife's past?
If he thinks that he can't forgive her then he should leave her rather teasing and making her life disgusting.But 'Talaq' isn't liked even by Allah so it's better to make heart bigger if the wife is loyal to him.

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Unfortunately I second Farrah on this part. When She is not inquiring about the past why would he is interested? But sometimes It happens for good as husband wants to know completely about his spouse in order to be sure for any future misunderstanding/question raised by third party, you never know past can appear in front of us any time during our smooth life.

I'd prefer asking her at some appropriate time regarding her past and will share mine too to take her in complete confidence, situation vary with people as everyone has different psyche and understanding of the subject matter.


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That's what I meant MBA.Man may know about the things which she wants to share.He should make her feel secure so that she may not hesitate to discuss her past with him.

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eik baat manay note ki hai k koi bhi aisi harkaton ko condemn nai karaha balkay excuses day rahay hain, jab k yeh buhat bara gunah hay as far as i know...
Hey Do you know what were you discussing ? You asked "what should one do in ABC case" ,You didn't ask for our opinion about adultery or prohibited acts jo ham logon pe laanten bhejna shuru ker dain.SAB excuses is lye de rahay hain kiun k ham sab ab baray ho chukay hain.Practical and realistic javab denay ki koshish ker rahay hain.Khud ko dunya ka aakhri naik insaan samjhtay hue doosron ko mulamat nae ker rahay.
Aur dunya ka koi b insaan gunaah ki tareefen nae kerta,sab gunah ko gunah e smjhtay hain.
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After reading all posts,I would like to say,

1)One should ask about one's wife's past BEFORE marriage.

2)If he wants to inquire AFTER marriage then he should ask it just for sake of trust building not to weaken their relationship.

Here comes some more questions ,

Do you think a girl will like to reveal her affairs?(in case of before marriage)

Ofcourse she will not.You know why ? Because she will be rejected right away.Even if she tells,she has also right to ask about man's.okay let's assume,man tells everything before marriage.Can girl ask her parents to reject the guy if she doesn't like to marry a man with 100 affairs ? Will her parents consider her point of view ? OFCOURSE NOT.A man with perfect job,perfect personality and with perfect family WILL NOT be rejected just on the basis of his past affairs.(I'm talking about average)Then what kind of inquiry it is ?It works only in case of men not for women
Is this society only for men ? for their choice?for their standards?

Let leave girl's will aside, A rejects her after coming to know about her past,then B comes,investigates about her past,she tells truth,he also rejects her.And it will keep on.Do you think Pakistani society can tolerate such system ? ? ?Do our men have such bigger hearts that even after knowing some irritating stories,they will accept the girl ? a big LOL


Seriously I laugh at people when I come to know that "falaan" and "Falaan" asked his wife "Had you any affair in past" and she said innocently,"Noooo way"

Simply Allah se dua mangen k wo ap ko naik shareek e hayat de.aur is ayat pe yaqeen rakhen,

"Naik aurton k lye naik mard,badd aurton k lye badd mard"

Inquiries kertay rahay tou kanwaray e reh jao gy
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It certainly varies from situation to situation. I personally like above statement of sabahatbhutta.

Apart from this, I would also like to share my true story here which is without assumptions. My family wanted me to marry with a girl who was living in a village. Her family was also interested in this relation. But i wanted to know about girl's opinion. With the permission of both of the families I met with girl and asked her about her opinion. She was extremely happy and said that it was her dream . I then asked if she had any other relationship in past. She said no she had even not talked with any boy in her whole life. I was very happy after knowing her opinion. Date of engagement etc was not decided by my parents when I came to know about her affair via an other person. I was shocked because I was told that nothing had happened. When I investigated the issue I came to know that she had two or more affairs and one of them was reached at peak point.
Then I asked her about those affairs, she initially refused and then accepted that such thing had happened. I decided not to marry with that girl.

Agar woh mujhay sirf itna bata deti k us ki dosti thi aik do larkon say (Chahay woh dosti main buhat aagy hi kiyoun na nikal chuki hoti) mery liye us ky yeh alfaz buhat hotay. QK aisa woh tab batati jub woh sachy dilsay toba kar chuki hoti. Phir agar mujhay koi aor shakhs yeh bhi kehta k us ky buhat kharab relations thay to main is baat pay dhayan na deta.

Mager us ka yeh jhoot k usny kisi larky say baat tak nahi ki is relation ko khatam karnay k liye kafi tha.

Isliye mujhay opar diye gaye comments buhat pasand aye. Jhoot kabhi chupta nahi. insaan ko bata dena chahye jo bhi hay sach sach.

Iss waqay k baad mera Eeman mazeed pukhta huwa iss ayat pay k "Jesa insaan khud hoga wesi hi biwi us komilay gi". Allah khud insaan ko bacha leta hay qk us nay wadah jo kia hay iss ayat main.
TRUTH must be the base of every relation thats what i strongly believe. Because JHOOT kitna bhi metha ho uska asar bht kARRWA hota h. And thanx for sharing your personal experience I pray you stayy blessed.
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Yeh baat aap ny bikul sach kahi k inquaries karty rahy to kunwary hi reh jayo gay.

Main samjhta hoon k sach bolny main Insaan ko kabhi long term pay nuqsaan nahi ho sakta aor jhoot bolnay main short term main faidah hay lekin long term main nuqsaan hi nuqsaan. To phir ghaty ka soda kiyoun karna.

Doosri baat aaj kal nojwanon ko chahye k woh limits cross na karain. Theek hay friendship ki hadd tak lekin uss say aagy nahi barhain. Especially larkiyoun ko. QK mard sab kuch bardashat kar sakta hay magar (Ghairat ka maamla) apni wife k baray main kisi aor banday kay mon say ghalat baat sunana gawarah nahi kar sakta.

Agar koi kar sakta hay to phir woh buhat hi koi oper ki cheez hay. Mujh jesa insaan iss qabil nahi.

Aor mard ko Islam main char shadian karny ki ijazat hay. Lkein aorat ussi soorat doosri shadi kar sakti hay k pehly shohar ussay talaq day ya woh khulla ly.

Aor larki Q sach nahi bata sakti ? Meri story ko side pay rakh k sochain k aik larki k kuch affairs thay shadi say pehly. Woh larka ussay Shadi k baad blackmail karta hay to aisi soorat main bhi larki ko ya to batana pary ga apny shohar ko ya phir woh blackmail ho kar uss banday ki demands ko poora kary gi jo k apny shohar k sath dhoka hoga. Isliye main behtar samjhta hoon k aisi batain discuss kar leni chahye acha hay agar shadi say pehly ho jayein. Ya shadi ki raat bhi agar shohar poochta hay to usay bataday k friendship thi phir chahy friendship say aagay kuch tha jis pay us nay Allah say maafi mang li thi to yeh Allah aor us k darmyan hay.
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No one is perfect or free of sins.

He who asks, he shows his doubts.

When a person starts loving a girl. Does he ask her about her past?

All Prophets, Messengers, Mystics, Sufi, pious people. They had not asked this question to their wives.

You know?

BiBi Khadeja R.A was a widow, even thn Prophet Mohammad PBUH had accepted her proposal.

Muslim Man can marry four if he can do justice and give equal rights.

I again say.

If Prophet Mohammad hadn't asked his wives about their pasts.
Then one shouldn't ask.

You have to follow Prophet Mohammad being Muslim. If you don't follow, then, you can examine your fate.
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He should make her feel secure so that she may not hesitate to discuss her past with him.
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No one is perfect or free of sins.

He who asks, he shows his doubts.

When a person starts loving a girl. Does he ask her about her past?

All Prophets, Messengers, Mystics, Sufi, pious people. They had not asked this question to their wives.

You know?

BiBi Khadeja R.A was a widow, even thn Prophet Mohammad PBUH had accepted her proposal.

Muslim Man can marry four if he can do justice and give equal rights.

I again say.

If Prophet Mohammad hadn't asked his wives about their pasts.
Then one shouldn't ask.

You have to follow Prophet Mohammad being Muslim. If you don't follow, then, you can examine your fate.
We should not mix the things by using the name of Islam. The example of prophet you are giving, does not match here. Prophets were innocent. They did not fall in love before marriage. The era has completely changed now. If you are pretending yourself as true follower then dont say that when a person does not ask before falling in love then he should also not ask after getting married.

If you are true follower then dont speak with girls and dont fall in love before marriage as it is prohibited in Islam. But you cant do this because people like you have double standard. They dont do what they say and they dont say what they do.

And you do not know the intention of a person who is asking from her wife. And as per Hadith, actions depend upon intentions. If your intentions are right then you can ask her.

I have clearly mentioned my intentions that a person should ask in order to avoid any problem in future. Moreover, a person should ask before marriage because if she is in love with someone else and want to marry with him but her parents do not want her to do so. Then, you can help her by rejecting that proposal. Because if she loves someone else but she is constraint to marry with you then she will not live a happy life with you. Here is the example of a person read it carefully:

Islam Question and Answer -


Dont behave like illetrate Molvis read carefully about my intentions which I have explained very well. I had also mentioned in my earlier comments that I certainly do not have rights and she is also free to tell me something or not.
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We should not mix the things by using the name of Islam. The example of prophet you are giving, does not match here. Prophets were innocent. They did not fall in love before marriage. The era has completely changed now. If you are pretending yourself as true follower then dont say that when a person does not ask before falling in love then he should also not ask after getting married.

If you are true follower then dont speak with girls and dont fall in love before marriage as it is prohibited in Islam. But you cant do this because people like you have double standard. They dont do what they say and they dont say what they do.

And you do not know the intention of a person who is asking from her wife. And as per Hadith, actions depend upon intentions. If your intentions are right then you can ask her.

I have clearly mentioned my intentions that a person should ask in order to avoid any problem in future. Moreover, a person should ask before marriage because if she is in love with someone else and want to marry with him but her parents do not want her to do so. Then, you can help her by rejecting that proposal. Because if she loves someone else but she is constraint to marry with you then she will not live a happy life with you. Here is the example of a person read it carefully:

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Dont behave like illetrate Molvis read carefully about my intentions which I have explained very well. I had also mentioned in my earlier comments that I certainly do not have rights and she is also free to tell me something or not.
Thanks.

You have talked good. I am married. I won't ask any girl

Everyone is right according to the level of mind.

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