Doubling your money every year?

[Aariz Ahmad]

Hello all,
The title may have made some sort of curiosity for you. But here I will be discussing few opportunities & their expected returns. I also want other members to contribute to this task. If you know any such investment that produces double the investment, please share it with me.

P.S: I am a serious intended investor and I want to invest 1.5 carore rupees. So please help me in identifying perfect project to invest in.

[very special 1]

Originally Posted by Aariz Ahmad

Hello all,
The title may have made some sort of curiosity for you. But here I will be discussing few opportunities & their expected returns. I also want other members to contribute to this task. If you know any such investment that produces double the investment, please share it with me.

P.S: I am a serious intended investor and I want to invest 1.5 carore rupees. So please help me in identifying perfect project to invest in.

you want to do investment. you have capital money but you dont know that which is progressive.

1 purchase agriculture land and invest on it

2 educational institue.........

3 hospital

4 traveling agency etc

5 factory i dont advice you becz of electricity problem

in these 5 best is agriculture project

all the best

regards

[Hamidullah Gul]

Originally Posted by Aariz Ahmad

Hello all,
The title may have made some sort of curiosity for you. But here I will be discussing few opportunities & their expected returns. I also want other members to contribute to this task. If you know any such investment that produces double the investment, please share it with me.

P.S: I am a serious intended investor and I want to invest 1.5 carore rupees. So please help me in identifying perfect project to invest in.

Investment in media related projects is very much profitable these days.

[Umer]

Originally Posted by Aariz Ahmad

Hello all,
The title may have made some sort of curiosity for you. But here I will be discussing few opportunities & their expected returns. I also want other members to contribute to this task. If you know any such investment that produces double the investment, please share it with me.

P.S: I am a serious intended investor and I want to invest 1.5 carore rupees. So please help me in identifying perfect project to invest in.

You prefer Pakistan as your market or intending to reach out international market as well?
You want to invest in a long term project or prefer a short term project, where you invest, double your money and look for something else after that?
Are you ready to take phenominal risk to stretch yourself out to the "double your investment" goal or want to play relatively safe and can compromise "double your investment" goal for the sake of safety?

[mani1]

Theres not much you can do in 15mil. Manufacturing is out of question and so is trading unless you are willing to sell on credit and risk losing money in the market. Best you can do is book cars and sell on premium/trade stocks or commodities/buy and sell plots. These are all low risk investments with low returns. If you higher returns, you will also have to take higher risks. Opening up a cafe/bakery seems a good option nowadays. If that is not your cup of tea, there is not much you can do here. Try taking your money to Bangladesh/Malaysia/Dubai and explore opportunities there

[Aariz Ahmad]

Firstly, I have made certain calculation related to DAIRY FARMING. Below is the 10 years profit calculation. I have kept the saving and animal prices at the same amount. The Rs. 167 per is average profit, as the buffalo will be lactating 305 days per year and 8 liters per day. With Rs. 60 per liter the daily profit will be Rs. 200 rupees profit per day if you divide it with 365, it comes to 167. I have also assumed that you will not be drawing any thing (I have stable income for my expenses). And all that you will be earning will be spent in purchasing new animals each month. Following is the link for calculation:
http://www.ziddu.com/download/194298...ation.xls.html

Here is the pre-feasibilty report from SMEDA:
http://www.ziddu.com/download/194298...imals.pdf.html

So, resultantly the profit per year come to 50%, which is very impressive.

Originally Posted by very special 1

you want to do investment. you have capital money but you dont know that which is progressive.

1 purchase agriculture land and invest on it

2 educational institue.........

3 hospital

4 traveling agency etc

5 factory i dont advice you becz of electricity problem

in these 5 best is agriculture project

all the best

regards

Yes agriculture is very profitable too.
Can you suggest some profitable crops?
There is a technology called tunnel farming (off-season vegetables). It produces 60% high yield, and the produce is acquired 1.5 to 2 months before the normal season. So the profits are very high in it. Would any one practicing it share its expenses and income per year?

Originally Posted by Hamidullah Gul

Investment in media related projects is very much profitable these days.

Dear, how can I invest in media with 15 millions ONLY? Do you mean purchasing its stocks?

Originally Posted by Umer

You prefer Pakistan as your market or intending to reach out international market as well?
You want to invest in a long term project or prefer a short term project, where you invest, double your money and look for something else after that?
Are you ready to take phenominal risk to stretch yourself out to the "double your investment" goal or want to play relatively safe and can compromise "double your investment" goal for the sake of safety?

With this much capital I can not go international, if you know know options then please share it with me. The only thing that comes to my mind for going international is buying S&P 500 shares (as they are safest ones to invest), that pay dividends too. But if you look at 2001-2010 time frame, the shares have just break-even (of course it had the dot-com crash and the credit crunch crashes in 10 years). So investing for 10 years and not earning a single penny is not acceptable to me.
I prefer investing for SHORTEST time period. You know why? because if know the principle of "compounding", it is the most powerful force on earth. I also want to invest in the area where the expansion is limitless.

Coming to the risk, I can not risk much. This amount is the hard-earned money of my family. It means a lot, alot to me & my family. Basically we had two plots that we had purchased in september 2001 in 12 lacs (6 lac each). Last month we sold both of them at 160 lacs (80 lacs) each. But this kind of return is not possible for every property. We had the best deal when we purchased them. And there was a property boom in 2006-2007 in our area. Every property double or tripled in that time period. This was due to infulx of investors.

Originally Posted by mani1

Theres not much you can do in 15mil. Manufacturing is out of question and so is trading unless you are willing to sell on credit and risk losing money in the market. Best you can do is book cars and sell on premium/trade stocks or commodities/buy and sell plots. These are all low risk investments with low returns. If you higher returns, you will also have to take higher risks. Opening up a cafe/bakery seems a good option nowadays. If that is not your cup of tea, there is not much you can do here. Try taking your money to Bangladesh/Malaysia/Dubai and explore opportunities there

As stated the prices of property are sky-rocketing in our area. So manufacturing is not possible. But, I can invest in agriculture and livestock easily with this much capital.

[very special 1]

Originally Posted by Aariz Ahmad

Yes agriculture is very profitable too.
Can you suggest some profitable crops?
There is a technology called tunnel farming (off-season vegetables). It produces 60% high yield, and the produce is acquired 1.5 to 2 months before the normal season. So the profits are very high in it. Would any one practicing it share its expenses and income per year?

suger cane, rice, and cattles food(pathae) in punjab.........with trees on sides.......which also gives u after every 3 year almost.

tunnel is also very good but it need experties.....for it you consult some agricultrist

i dont have much information about tunnel crops........

[Aariz Ahmad]

Now what I exactly want is that I should is that I can not risk my money in cafe/bakery. As the risk is very high & what if I fail. I will literally be weeping
I have made following things to consider:
1. Agriculture (already discussed)
2. Livestock (already discussed)
3. Wholesale
Does any one know their profit margin & specially on cooking oil & nestle juices, nestle milk pack & nestle bottled water?
4. Stocks
Of course US blue-chip stocks will the my choice for long term investment.
5. Forex trading
Now, the forex has attracted me to a great, great deal. But beware 95% of traders fail. 5% are profitable and out of this 1% are exceptionally profitable who earn 1-2% "PER DAY PROFIT"!!!, yes its true. But remember they are top 1% strata of all. Forex is the hottest marketplace in West nowadays. But I don't know why no body do it in Pakistan. I will invest $10,000 (9 lacs), when I will have 70% winning trades in forex for at least 3 months, but not more than this amount.

Any other suggestions are warmly welcomed.

Note: Mods, please merge all my posts into 1 post. I don't know how to do it.

Originally Posted by very special 1

suger cane, rice, and cattles food(pathae) in punjab.........with trees on sides.......which also gives u after every 3 year almost.

tunnel is also very good but it need experties.....for it you consult some agricultrist

i dont have much information about tunnel crops........

I am from Hyderabad (150 km) from Karachi. I can work in my adjoining districts.
There is a thing wheat hay, called booh in Sindhi. Dont know what it is called in Urdu/ Punjabi. But last year at the harvesting season, the rate was Rs. 220 per 40 kg. This rate went upto Rs. 450 per 40 kg in December. So it doubled. But you have to have some sort of influence in your area to store it so as to save from stealing (which I dont have, I am a normal person).

[mani1]

1)Avoid forex. I am trading futures and options on CME and NYMEX since last 5 years and know what I am talking about. If you have to trade leveraged products, go with commodity futures but avoid forex at all costs

2)Dairy farming isn't that profitable. Havn't seen your calculations yet but a lot of people I know are in this business and it is becoming increasingly difficult for them to even break even

3)Wholesale business of MNCs is not possible. They hire distributors who have their own warehouses/delivery vehicles etc. Minimum investment is 300 million

[Invincible]

If you have business acumen, invest in Karachi stock exchange. First invest 30p/c of of your capital to gain experience.

Regards,