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I hope that all of the qualifiers have finished enjoying their cup of coffee and now this the time to move on. In this post I will try to describe the pattern of psychometric testing by NTS. At this very moment, we all are well aware of the fact that MoD enjoys the element of surprise, yet we will look over the last year’s pattern to have an idea over the subject.

Psychometric is more or less like psychological Test of CSS or ISSB. Basic contents of psychometric testing are...

IQ test

Non Verbal: 50
Verbal 50
Total allotted time: 30 minutes

REBT (Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy)

It is like filling the blanks.
E.g: I like….., I love…. , Sometimes…
Around 30 in English and 30 in Urdu

MMPI (Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory)

MCQ type questions.
E.g.: I like crime stories
A. Strongly agree B. Agree C. Neutral D. Disagree E. Strongly disagree.

TAT (Thematic Apperception Test)

Traditional picture story writing. Candidates will be required to write 3 stories and 5 minutes for each story.

Associated words

A specific word will be displayed for 10 seconds and candidates will have to write sentence on the word. After 10 seconds, next word will appear.
Total words: 30

Your strengths, weaknesses etc. etc.

Note 1: There is no right or wrong answer to the questions. It is purely personality assessment test and yet one of the difficult to clear. The authorities are not interested in knowing our traits but they are searching for the required and we don’t know that what they are looking for.

Note 2: Psychological stage is very important because many of candidates will be filtered out at this stage. It is advised to prepare yourself on scientific lines.

Note 3: I cannot prepare any candidate via forum, so it is advised to consult ISSB books for preparations.

Note 4: Be positive, you will have not the time to think so start working on your psychological profile and don't try to lie... because this multi dimensional test is designed to point out any lies.

Wish all of the candidates in their endeavours. May ALLAH bless us with success. Ameen

P.S: I usually observe the forum activities silently. Most of the people don’t bother to read the thread, but energetically ready to put in the Question that was answered previously. Almost every qualifier possesses something unique, so please don’t tarnish the image of MoD/NTS by asking useless questions. I will answer only the legitimate queries of the aspirants, If any...
Thank you.

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i have been selected for SI MOD, The psychometric test, you stated above for AD MOD, will also be conducted for Sub Inspector MOD also>

And What will be the career path and perks of Sub inspector MOD, If you have a knowledge about ?

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I hope that all of the qualifiers have finished enjoying their cup of coffee and now this the time to move on. In this post I will try to describe the pattern of psychometric testing by NTS. At this very moment, we all are well aware of the fact that MoD enjoys the element of surprise, yet we will look over the last year’s pattern to have an idea over the subject.

Psychometric is more or less like psychological Test of CSS or ISSB. Basic contents of psychometric testing are...

IQ test

Non Verbal: 50
Verbal 50
Total allotted time: 30 minutes

REBT (Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy)

It is like filling the blanks.
E.g: I like….., I love…. , Sometimes…
Around 30 in English and 30 in Urdu

MMPI (Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory)

MCQ type questions.
E.g.: I like crime stories
A. Strongly agree B. Agree C. Neutral D. Disagree E. Strongly disagree.

TAT (Thematic Apperception Test)

Traditional picture story writing. Candidates will be required to write 3 stories and 5 minutes for each story.

Associated words

A specific word will be displayed for 10 seconds and candidates will have to write sentence on the word. After 10 seconds, next word will appear.
Total words: 30

Your strengths, weaknesses etc. etc.

Note 1: There is no right or wrong answer to the questions. It is purely personality assessment test and yet one of the difficult to clear. The authorities are not interested in knowing our traits but they are searching for the required and we don’t know that what they are looking for.

Note 2: Psychological stage is very important because many of candidates will be filtered out at this stage. It is advised to prepare yourself on scientific lines.

Note 3: I cannot prepare any candidate via forum, so it is advised to consult ISSB books for preparations.

Note 4: Be positive, you will have not the time to think so start working on your psychological profile and don't try to lie... because this multi dimensional test is designed to point out any lies.

Wish all of the candidates in their endeavours. May ALLAH bless us with success. Ameen

P.S: I usually observe the forum activities silently. Most of the people don’t bother to read the thread, but energetically ready to put in the Question that was answered previously. Almost every qualifier possesses something unique, so please don’t tarnish the image of MoD/NTS by asking useless questions. I will answer only the legitimate queries of the aspirants, If any...
Thank you.

Regards
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thank you for your valuable post in the wake of ad mod.

actually i have taken 3 times css psychological assesment test..i hope it would be doable for me what do you suggest in this regard?
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3 times you appeared for css psychological test and still not qualified. I appreciate your hard work,struggle and above all tolerance.
I want guidance for psychological test regarding some useful material for practice.
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Sir, can you please recommend any practice material, books/guides/videos etc for psychometric? People prepare in academies for ISSB and they perform well in ISSB, I mean their ratio is significantly higher as compared to un-prepared ones.
Sir please suggest any material/links?
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Dear Divergent,
i have been selected for SI MOD, The psychometric test, you stated above for AD MOD, will also be conducted for Sub Inspector MOD also>

And What will be the career path and perks of Sub inspector MOD, If you have a knowledge about ?

Thanks in advance
Psychometric was also part of recruitment process for SI post. I do not know the perks and privileges of SI in MoD but I am pretty sure that they are comparatively good from same cadre of service in other departments. Career and promotions in this organization, depends on the capacity and performance of the individual.

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dear divergent'
thank you for your valuable post in the wake of ad mod.

actually i have taken 3 times css psychological assesment test..i hope it would be doable for me what do you suggest in this regard?
3 times experience of psychological assessment in CSS will surely serve you good. I don't know that what your psychological profile depicted so I cant comment about the status. when I started to prepare for psychological, during my CSS campaign, I paid visit to different teachers for the said purpose. Interestingly, they didn't teach me, but pointed out mistakes of others by telling what to do and what not to do. they also highlighted some of contradictory points in statements of same nature. I am not student of psychology, yet extracted all the information on MMPI, REBT, TAT and other ingredients of the process. I wouldn't say that I have good knowledge about this whole psychometric process, but I did my best in dissection of the concept and to prepare my profile as a whole, and Alhmadulilah It served me well, whenever needed.

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3 times you appeared for css psychological test and still not qualified. I appreciate your hard work,struggle and above all tolerance.
I want guidance for psychological test regarding some useful material for practice.

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Sir, can you please recommend any practice material, books/guides/videos etc for psychometric? People prepare in academies for ISSB and they perform well in ISSB, I mean their ratio is significantly higher as compared to un-prepared ones.
Sir please suggest any material/links?
Dogar's book for ISSB will surely help you for practice. Try to visit any expert for the purpose. By expert, I don't mean a teacher of psychology, rather psychologist or an expert who knows how to prepare you rightly. Material is available on the internet but alone material wouldn't help much until you look for the errors. Besides, the experts will help you by providing the Standard material for practice (which they usually don't give or allow to photocopy. you can take your written scripts only)

Note: one more thing, I have seen the people who didn't even prepare for this but cleared the stage. May be they possess something that was required. it mean, one have to show what one truly is... or.... pretend to be, what the employer want. In former case, One will be happy and satisfied with the job because it would match the nature, while in later case... the feeling of being discontent will accompany.

Number of candidates short-listed: : I am not sure but I observed that usually NTS short lists candidates on the basis of 1:50 (average, 10 more or less) for psychometric and 1:5 for Interview purpose, If not specifically directed by the concerned department.

May ALLAH bless all of us with success. Ameen

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Psychometric was also part of recruitment process for SI post. I do not know the perks and privileges of SI in MoD but I am pretty sure that they are comparatively good from same cadre of service in other departments. Career and promotions in this organization, depends on the capacity and performance of the individual.



3 times experience of psychological assessment in CSS will surely serve you good. I don't know that what your psychological profile depicted so I cant comment about the status. when I started to prepare for psychological, during my CSS campaign, I paid visit to different teachers for the said purpose. Interestingly, they didn't teach me, but pointed out mistakes of others by telling what to do and what not to do. they also highlighted some of contradictory points in statements of same nature. I am not student of psychology, yet extracted all the information on MMPI, REBT, TAT and other ingredients of the process. I wouldn't say that I have good knowledge about this whole psychometric process, but I did my best in dissection of the concept and to prepare my profile as a whole, and Alhmadulilah It served me well, whenever needed.






Dogar's book for ISSB will surely help you for practice. Try to visit any expert for the purpose. By expert, I don't mean a teacher of psychology, rather psychologist or an expert who knows how to prepare you rightly. Material is available on the internet but alone material wouldn't help much until you look for the errors. Besides, the experts will help you by providing the Standard material for practice (which they usually don't give or allow to photocopy. you can take your written scripts only)

Note: one more thing, I have seen the people who didn't even prepare for this but cleared the stage. May be they possess something that was required. it mean, one have to show what one truly is... or.... pretend to be, what the employer want. In former case, One will be happy and satisfied with the job because it would match the nature, while in later case... the feeling of being discontent will accompany.

Number of candidates short-listed: : I am no :sure but I observed that usually NTS short lists candidates on the basis of 1:50 (average, 10 more or less) for psychometric and 1:5 for Interview purpose, If not specifically directed by the concerned department.

May ALLAH bless all of us with success. Ameen

Regards
I appreciate your efforts.
Bother, i have been short-listed for the Traffic Analyst Supervisor (BPS-16).
Now, i want to know some information about TAS job and and its nature.
Secondly, Will there be Psychometric Test for Traffic Analyst Supervisor.. ?
I have two time experience of ISSB Psychological Test..?
Thanks in advance.
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i had wonderful experience in css psychological as well as in viva and scored well but fell in written thats why could not get allocated because of low score in written. any way, practice is useful for psychological for verbal and non verbal both...group tasks pay a lot in good performance in verbal test while in non verbal candidate has to do perform efficiently and positively in given time...i all learnt this from psychologist member of commission...so, some tips are also required to write picture stories, sentence completion, autobiography and personality performa .....some one has to shape his personality according to the job requirements which i learned.
moreover, IQ, testing can be done well by practice , for this issb books are sufficient.
for verbal session, need to improve spoken skills , argumentative ability , etc
posture, gesture, gait style, eye contact, talking style all are noticed by the panel as well.
concludingly, its not easy as seems , its the test of personality indeed.
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dear fellows'
i had wonderful experience in css psychological as well as in viva and scored well but fell in written thats why could not get allocated because of low score in written. any way, practice is useful for psychological for verbal and non verbal both...group tasks pay a lot in good performance in verbal test while in non verbal candidate has to do perform efficiently and positively in given time...i all learnt this from psychologist member of commission...so, some tips are also required to write picture stories, sentence completion, autobiography and personality performa .....some one has to shape his personality according to the job requirements which i learned.
moreover, IQ, testing can be done well by practice , for this issb books are sufficient.
for verbal session, need to improve spoken skills , argumentative ability , etc
posture, gesture, gait style, eye contact, talking style all are noticed by the panel as well.
concludingly, its not easy as seems , its the test of personality indeed.
Agreed with the statement. "Psychologist member of the commission..." yes indeed, I did the same too.... and the 2 days activities were wonderful and memorable. Now having a clear picture of your preparation lines, you shouldn't be worried much. Good marks in interview are reflections of good psychological assessment, just shape your personality traits according to the requirement. it will invite little changes only. Group discussion, commanding the command task and panel of Psychologists wouldn't be part of Psychometric by NTS.

@ sharpmind... Really sorry brother, I don't have any idea regarding the process of TAS. The nature of job, as the name reflects... will be analysing the communicative signals and report accordingly. (My Personal opinion.)

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