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yesterday someone was saying that Maha khan is deliberately misguiding the candidates i take strong exception to it she is a higly respected and well informed member of this forum i have always found her to be very helpful and cooperative and she never misinforms anyone
no doubt in that , i think that specific person was launched to defend PPSC. PPSC pr officer or any other person of that capacity should issue statement about questions which are being raised on this forum or candidates in print media .Long delays in induction process, poor standard of test setting etc , candidates deserve answers that why ppsc not trying to improve that
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Agree with Monk....i did not apply after reading that one post of Maha khan and one of my friend did the same
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Agree with Monk....i did not apply after reading that one post of Maha khan and one of my friend did the same
Over age candidates has got nothing so far, judge allowed petitioners, so what you will got by applying ? No court order came which said over age candidates should keep on applying , if anyone has that decision should share here . People didn't know the difference between a judge's " remarks " & " Decision ".
Over age candidates has no value in this exam & they are not even considered . Even FPSC didn't scrutinize over age candidates at time of written exam, they scrutinize at interview stage. Two years back a friend of mine give CSS exams & got 723 marks. But at interview stage , he got letter that you were " 6 days old then the limit at time of applying ', so you are not eligible .
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So no relaxation?
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These petitions will also meet the same fate. S&GAD is very stern in its stance that there would be no age relaxation from now on. The only ground that people used for demanding age relaxation was that the exam is not held consecutively, now S&GAD has advertised only a limited number of seats because it is going to re-advertise CCE in 2015 April again and it has reseved the seats for that exam. I was talking to the SO Regulation wing of S &GAD, he told that exam would commence in 2014 even if we have to hold em on 30th of December, so that by holding the exams again in 2015, we can establish the practice and ending the debate of age relaxation.

I give you my word, if the government (S&GAD) has decided something, no court will be able to change their stance.



My friend, it is not the fault of PPSC, the candidates file petitions and recruitment is delayed. S&GAD is the party in the case, not PPSC. Commission is just a recommending body, nothing more than that.


I guess you really need to learn the service matters and other such things before lambasting an institution. PPSC does not make any service rules, nor can it change them. We have given our recommendations to PPSC and S&GAD to hold the exam at once so that the vacant seats can be filled and officers waiting for promotions should get their promotions in a timely way, because a person working in BS:17 won't get promoted in 18 unless he is replaced by new inductee in 17.
Dear Bilal, please your email and reply me, I have asked some issues regarding PMS English exam. I also sent you messages on fb. But you didn't reply

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[COLOR="blue"]These petitions will also meet the same fate. S&GAD is very stern in its stance that there would be no age relaxation from now on. The only ground that people used for demanding age relaxation was that the exam is not held consecutively, now S&GAD has advertised only a limited number of seats because it is going to re-advertise CCE in 2015 April again and it has reseved the seats for that exam. I was talking to the SO Regulation wing of S &GAD, he told that exam would commence in 2014 even if we have to hold em on 30th of December, so that by holding the exams again in 2015, we can establish the practice and ending the debate of age relaxation.

I give you my word, if the government (S&GAD) has decided something, no court will be able to change their stance.
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first of all my dear friend congrats on your success in css exam you deserved it and i knew since the moment i met you that it is a matter of time only before you make it now coming to the heated discussion going on i would like to know that can we infer from your statement that the "highly esteemed" and "honourable"S&GAD is working in cohorts with the lahore high court since you are giving your word because only that way a court cannot change its stance since you must be well aware of the fact that high court can declare a constitutional amendment as null and void and make a prime minister go home so it seems very absurd that it cannot set aside the rules set with malafide intentions by S&GAD which is controlled by a mafia
secondly i think that time has come now that we all should speak the truth you must remember that on that crisp winter morning of December 26 2012 when we came out of the office of the ppsc for tea break during the first day of our psychological exam you told me in the presence of 2/3 other people that one candidate is going to land in top ten and you also told name of that special someone i have delibrately used the word candidate to conceal the identity of that candidate since almost every one knows about that candidate and that very candidate did eventually land in top ten so would you be kind enough to ask the so regulation or admn 1 or 2 or whosoever you may like that is it true that a close relative of that candidate will land in top ten in pms 2014 as well oh by the way you can ask a director of ppsc as well since he knows a thing or two about this
You mean in PMS exam People get advantage by their Political Influence?
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Refer to post #29 of this thread to know how much well inform she actually is where she stopped overage candidates from applying and advised them to wait for re advertisement thus ruining their chances to sit in the exams
You are accusing Maha Khan for no good reason.

The advice (not an order) given by her was and is valid even now. This is because the permission to sit in the exams for over-age candidates is still provisional, and the final verdict will be decided in December. If age-relaxation is not granted, all the preparations, tension and fatigue taken by the appearing over-age candidates will be in vain. Better not to sit in exam at all than to prepare for months and give good papers only to be rejected on age-basis later.

In the final verdict, if age relaxation is granted, the court has the power to order PPSC to take written exams again, or separately for candidates who didn't apply. Otherwise, applying or not, ALL over-age candidates will be rejected even if secured top marks in the written.
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You are accusing Maha Khan for no good reason.

The advice (not an order) given by her was and is valid even now. This is because the permission to sit in the exams for over-age candidates is still provisional, and the final verdict will be decided in December. If age-relaxation is not granted, all the preparations, tension and fatigue taken by the appearing over-age candidates will be in vain. Better not to sit in exam at all than to prepare for months and give good papers only to be rejected on age-basis later.

In the final verdict, if age relaxation is granted, the court has the power to order PPSC to take written exams again, or separately for candidates who didn't apply. Otherwise, applying or not, ALL over-age candidates will be rejected even if secured top marks in the written.
that's the main point. if court grant age relaxation than PPSC will be bound to take exam of over age candidates again
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You are accusing Maha Khan for no good reason.

The advice (not an order) given by her was and is valid even now. This is because the permission to sit in the exams for over-age candidates is still provisional, and the final verdict will be decided in December. If age-relaxation is not granted, all the preparations, tension and fatigue taken by the appearing over-age candidates will be in vain. Better not to sit in exam at all than to prepare for months and give good papers only to be rejected on age-basis later.
If court has allowed them to take examination then it's highly likely that they'll get decision in their favour in that case what will be the status of that advice?


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In the final verdict, if age relaxation is granted, the court has the power to order PPSC to take written exams again, or separately for candidates who didn't apply. Otherwise, applying or not, ALL over-age candidates will be rejected even if secured top marks in the written.
That's not going to heappen because establishment division has calculated everything before advising PPSC to conduct examination immediately

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that's the main point. if court grant age relaxation than PPSC will be bound to take exam of over age candidates again
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If court has allowed them to take examination then it's highly likely that they'll get decision in their favour in that case what will be the status of that advice?
Courts and Judges know that they cannot give a judgement which jeopardizes the validity of the whole recruitment process. The eligibility criteria for such a prestigious exam has to be and remain rock solid and free from any ambiguities, otherwise it will set a precedent that will give excuse in the coming years to create separate eligibility criteria for different privileged classes of society, and not even PPSC officials would like such a thing to happen.

The current status of the appeal is that of a provisional permission to the petitioners, so there is nothing wrong with it yet.

But, in the end, age-relaxation will be for every citizen of Punjab or it will be for nobody.

With the current attitude of the Judges, I have a feeling that age-relaxation will be rejected and so, the over-age people who take the exams will probably have longer faces later on than those who didn't even apply.
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