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Sajid888 Friday, April 01, 2016 02:43 PM

Marks Certificates CCE-13
 
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Today I have received the Marks Certificate of CCE-13, sent by SPSC. It is quite shocking as well hurting. I was quite confident through out the examination but here situation is contradictory. I have been declared as fail in Sindhi Essay; only 10 marks have been awarded out of 50. Besides this I have cleared all the papers.

Now the question here is that, whether the marks awarded, are under the provision of merit or otherwise. It would not be irrelevant that I have also obtained 70 marks in the paper of General Sindhi and I had chosen one optional paper which is also related with Sindhi language that is History of Sindhi Literature, whereas I got 80 marks. I had close focus over the study of Sindhi subjects.

Essay In sindhi 10 failed
Sindhi General 70
History of Sindhi Literature 80

I belong to sindh and sindhi is my mother tongue, no likelihood of grammatical and spelling mistakes would affect the topic. It is pertinent to mention that Sindhi General had also one Essay Topic and History of Sindhi Literature was also bothering the language and history. One of the aspirant had also disclosed in the instant forum that the copies of Sindhi Essay are being checked by one of the incompetent person.

Now the question is that, whether the marks only 10 in numbers are justified with my competency or any other factor has affected. You please advise me to knock the door of SPSC in respect of re-checking of Sindhi Essay copy or any other forum would be suitable.

Lunatic bird Friday, April 01, 2016 03:49 PM

Sindhi essay has been slaughtered this time.Many of my friends have failed sindhi essay.while there is difference in scoring condition of sindhi essay and sindhi general. Sindhi general paper was divided in questions to get marks easily.your score is good in sindhi general but average in history of sindhi literature.History of sindhi literature was the real test of your grip on literature and language.It is also my optional paper.
Dear if they have failed candidates deliberately in sindhi essay then why they have spared some candidates who have commendable grip over sindhi.
I have passed this paper.As for as my expertise on sindhi is concerned i obtained 62 in c.e 2014 and 78 in c.e 2015.My prepation for sindhi in css was of one day.
As history of sindhi literature was optional,therefore i had consumed much time on preparing sindhi for PCS.I had prepared more than 10 sindhi essays and prepared notes after reading many books.My prepation made me to pass this paper and the candidates which took sindhi slightly have been slaughtered.
Anyways,share your marks of other subjects.how did it go overall?

xpedior Friday, April 01, 2016 08:30 PM

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Today I have received the Marks Certificate of CCE-13, sent by SPSC. It is quite shocking as well hurting. I was quite confident through out the examination but here situation is contradictory. I have been declared as fail in Sindhi Essay; only 10 marks have been awarded out of 50. Besides this I have cleared all the papers.

Now the question here is that, whether the marks awarded, are under the provision of merit or otherwise. It would not be irrelevant that I have also obtained 70 marks in the paper of General Sindhi and I had chosen one optional paper which is also related with Sindhi language that is History of Sindhi Literature, whereas I got 80 marks. I had close focus over the study of Sindhi subjects.

Essay In sindhi 10 failed
Sindhi General 70
History of Sindhi Literature 80

I belong to sindh and sindhi is my mother tongue, no likelihood of grammatical and spelling mistakes would affect the topic. It is pertinent to mention that Sindhi General had also one Essay Topic and History of Sindhi Literature was also bothering the language and history. One of the aspirant had also disclosed in the instant forum that the copies of Sindhi Essay are being checked by one of the incompetent person.

Now the question is that, whether the marks only 10 in numbers are justified with my competency or any other factor has affected. You please advise me to knock the door of SPSC in respect of re-checking of Sindhi Essay copy or any other forum would be suitable.[/QUOTE]

Dear my sympathies are with you.After reading your post and comments from other fellows, I only feel myself lucky and thank Almighty Allah.

You must go for a re-check / recounting, if rules permit. What was the topic of your Sindhi essay? Please also share marks of other subjects as well.

Regards

Aahsif Friday, April 01, 2016 10:38 PM

If you have failed css essay you might not have regrets. I dont know why but thats true. on the other hand, in essay paper they dont check your language as much as they check analytical skills and general understanding of the topic

Aahsif Saturday, April 02, 2016 11:06 PM

Share your DMCz
 
I request the members who have received DMCz please share it here, so that we can evaluate ourselves that where do exactly we stand?

Ghostbuster Saturday, April 02, 2016 11:54 PM

My friends' DMC.
:Eng essay-22,Eng composition-53,General Sindhi-72,Sindhi Essay-10,GK-99,Islamiat-55,Islamic History-107,Sindhi Literature-124.Total-542.Fail in sindhi essay.

Ghostbuster Saturday, April 02, 2016 11:56 PM

My other friend's DMC. PCS(2013)
Eng:23
Eng comp: 44
Sindhi essay 6
Gk. 92
Sindhi general: 53.
Sindhi lit: 78.
Islamic history 58.
Islamiyat 54.
Total: 408.

Indomitable Sunday, April 03, 2016 11:03 PM

[QUOTE=Ghostbuster;925136]My friends' DMC.
:Eng essay-22,Eng composition-53,General Sindhi-72,Sindhi Essay-10,GK-99,Islamiat-55,Islamic History-107,Sindhi Literature-124.Total-542.Fail in sindhi essay.[/QUOTE]
After going through mark sheets of failed candidates, i have observed that examiner of sindhi essay has awarded either 10 mark or 16 marks. what does it indicate? in my opinion there are two possibilities. 1. he has awarded these marks on instructions of a third party. 2. all the failed candidates have same mental approach. what is your opinion?

Ghostbuster Monday, April 04, 2016 12:49 AM

I am myself amazed to see my friend's dmc. He got 124 in sindhi litrature and his sindhi composition was great too but i dont know how he could not have convinced the checker. His sindhi writing style is superb. I am his student and i was declared pass.

Indomitable Monday, April 04, 2016 07:07 AM

[QUOTE=Ghostbuster;925343]I am myself amazed to see my friend's dmc. He got 124 in sindhi litrature and his sindhi composition was great too but i dont know how he could not have convinced the checker. His sindhi writing style is superb. I am his student and i was declared pass.[/QUOTE]
in my opinion, he has forcibly been failed due to either of the above possibilities

Indomitable Wednesday, April 06, 2016 07:23 AM

Is there anybody who opted COMMERCE as an optional subject? if yes, kindly share marks

ravishanker Wednesday, April 06, 2016 09:22 AM

English (gen. ) 49
Eng. (Essay) 25
Sindhi (Essay) 22
Sindhi (gen.) 89
G. K 96
Sindhi (litrat.) 87
Geography 40
Sociology 88

engr.shaikh Wednesday, April 06, 2016 09:54 AM

Then which subject you are failed in ?

pcswarrior Wednesday, April 06, 2016 10:08 AM

[QUOTE=engr.shaikh;925684]Then which subject you are failed in ?[/QUOTE]

Geography. 50 is the passing marks.

saeed jatoi Wednesday, April 06, 2016 12:40 PM

@Ravi Shanker

Geography paper c.c.e 2013 was quite straight forward and easy and expected to fetch more than 100 marks.Where did you falter? are you satisfied with given marks and the checker? or do you think checker has deliberately failed you. please share the questions you attempted.

wasim soomrro Wednesday, April 06, 2016 01:53 PM

My dmc
Roll no.23065
English composition 41
English essay 20
Sindhi essay 10
General sindhi 45
Islamic history paper one 118
Islamic history paper two 81
Economics 60
Grand total 454.

shahabuddinshah Wednesday, April 06, 2016 01:56 PM

has anyone in karachi and from karachi center received their marks certificates?

ravishanker Wednesday, April 06, 2016 05:19 PM

yes failed in geography.. 40...

ravishanker Wednesday, April 06, 2016 05:20 PM

[QUOTE=saeed jatoi;925711]@Ravi Shanker

Geography paper c.c.e 2013 was quite straight forward and easy and expected to fetch more than 100 marks.Where did you falter? are you satisfied with given marks and the checker? or do you think checker has deliberately failed you. please share the questions you attempted.[/QUOTE]
I got 102 marks in geography css 2014 and was hopeful for this. paper was satisfactory but do not know why I am fail in Geography...

incounternable Wednesday, April 06, 2016 05:43 PM

Sindhi Literature and Sindhi General subjects have nothing to do with Sindhi Essay.


Literature is something entirely different thing than Essay and the same goes for Composition(Sindhi General) paper too. I'm not defending SPSC or any entity here, I just wanted to clear the air that Good/Excellent marks in Sindhi Literature and Sindhi General paper doesn't necessarily imply that one should pass Sindhi Essay paper too.


Essay is not about language(Grammar) or literature but the understanding of the topic involved and the way you convince that your ideas and arguments are valid.



[B]P.S. I'm not defending anyone here. Its simply my understanding of why students fail in Essay while they grab excellent marks in Composition paper in CSS as well as PCS Exam.[/B]



JazakAllah

xpedior Wednesday, April 06, 2016 06:03 PM

[QUOTE=incounternable;925766]Sindhi Literature and Sindhi General subjects has nothing to do with Sindhi Essay.


Literature is something entirely different thing than Essay and the same goes for Composition(Sindhi General) paper too. I'm not defending SPSC or any entity here, I just wanted to clear the air that Good/Excellent marks in Sindhi Literature and Sindhi General paper doesn't necessarily imply that one should pass Sindhi Essay paper too.


Essay is not about language(Grammar) or literature but the understanding of the topic involved and the way you convince that your ideas and arguments are valid.



[B]P.S. I'm not defending anyone here. Its simply my understanding of why students fail in Essay while they grab excellent marks in Composition paper in CSS as well as PCS Exam.[/B]



JazakAllah[/QUOTE]
All those who could not secure sufficient marks in any subject, their reaction is natural.

I may also be saying same had I failed. I just want to add here that I started practicing about sindhi writing after 17 years in feb 2015. Yet I passed essay paper. I never prepared for CSS or PCS nor went to any academy.

Moreover, I opted for geography on advice of a friend but when I scroll through contents, I was cursing myself. However, paper was quite simple and straight forward and Alhamdulilah I passed. Only problem was I was awake from last two nights when attempting paper. ;)
And yes, I donot have any near or dear one in SPSC or in Sindh Govt.
I think luck has a big factor as these exams are totally like a gamble.
Nepotism aside, but I second incounternable words. Perhaps, I am among qualified, that is why.

Regards

SIRFTUM Wednesday, April 06, 2016 11:54 PM

[QUOTE=Indomitable;925664]Is there anybody who opted COMMERCE as an optional subject? if yes, kindly share marks[/QUOTE]

I opted commerce as my optional subject. I attempted the paper quite well but unfortunately got 78 marks.

Indomitable Thursday, April 07, 2016 06:58 AM

[QUOTE=SIRFTUM;925827]I opted commerce as my optional subject. I attempted the paper quite well but unfortunately got 78 marks.[/QUOTE]
i have been awarded 76. i attempted excellently.

The Great Alexander Thursday, April 07, 2016 01:40 PM

I have not received my mark sheet yet. Is there any of you who have not received ?

naheed Akhtar Thursday, April 07, 2016 03:04 PM

[QUOTE=The Great Alexander;925903]I have not received my mark sheet yet. Is there any of you who have not received ?[/QUOTE]

I have also not received my DMC...

clayali Thursday, April 07, 2016 08:44 PM

Dmc cce 13
 
English Essay 22
English General 58
Essay in Sindhi 10
Sindhi General 74
General Knowledge 110
Sindhi Literature 90
Sociology 87
Public Administration 71

Being declared fail in Essay in Sindhi is not a big deal, but the way candidates have been declared fail in this subject is fishy. Please write to commiittee, that has been constituted by spsc in the stewardship of secretary, to record your objections.

asifalishah Thursday, April 07, 2016 10:00 PM

Got 542 marks but failed in sindhi essay- 10 marks.

haseebbaloch Thursday, April 07, 2016 10:29 PM

not recieved marksheet yet :(

Indomitable Friday, April 08, 2016 07:02 AM

[quote=clayali;926029]english essay 22
english general 58
essay in sindhi 10
sindhi general 74
general knowledge 110
sindhi literature 90
sociology 87
public administration 71

being declared fail in essay in sindhi is not a big deal, but the way candidates have been declared fail in this subject is fishy. Please write to commiittee, that has been constituted by spsc in the stewardship of secretary, to record your objections.[/quote]
constitution of the committee means [B][U]bili ko kehna k dhoodh ki rakhwali karo.[/U][/B] Committee is not going to give relief. Only court can do so. So you are requested to join this movement being carried forward by active members of face book pages. Plz do visit

The Great Alexander Friday, April 08, 2016 03:39 PM

Reply to xpedior ......


Brother u said that luck factor is in spsc (cce2013). .... I want to ask u that why the son of JUMA KHAN and the nephew of QAIM Ali shah are so lucky ..? Why the relatives of spsc members are so lucky ?

Old man and the sea Friday, April 08, 2016 05:48 PM

If you have any doubts, please check this [url]http://www.spsc.gov.pk/overview.html[/url]

Sent from my H30-U10 using Tapatalk

xpedior Friday, April 08, 2016 06:10 PM

[QUOTE=The Great Alexander;926233]Reply to xpedior ......


Brother u said that luck factor is in spsc (cce2013). .... I want to ask u that why the son of JUMA KHAN and the nephew of QAIM Ali shah are so lucky ..? Why the relatives of spsc members are so lucky ?[/QUOTE]
Dear it is simple. Because their patrons are sitting at right places at right time.

They are even more lucky I say, as they donot need to work harder or be smarter than other candidates. aur wese bhi aqal or naseeb ki ladai me jeet naseeb ki hoti he, hamesha. That is what I believe.

But that does not mean losing hope. Give your best and donot let any stone unturned. May Allah give you what is best for you.

Regards

SIRFTUM Saturday, April 09, 2016 01:14 PM

[QUOTE=Indomitable;925844]i have been awarded 76. i attempted excellently.[/QUOTE]

Dear Indomitable I also attempted the Commere paper really well but the examiner highly disappointed to all candiates who opted this subject. As myslef is the Topper & Medalist in M.Com (Hons), M.Phil Scholar & working as Lecturer in Education & Literacy Department, Govt of Sindh since last 5 years. I was expecting 100+ marks.

szkhan05 Saturday, April 09, 2016 05:26 PM

Islamic History Failures ..........

Now this is something interesting here............... I am victim of it .....

http://sindhexpress.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=130381341&Issue=NP_HYD&Date=20160409

If it is true than it can be Game changer

clayali Saturday, April 09, 2016 07:44 PM

My dear, before going to courts we must exhaust departmental remedies available. Let the SPSC first deal with our objections raised before the committee and the way they deal with objections raised shall also help our case before the courts.

Great Afnan Saturday, April 09, 2016 08:27 PM

Irregularities in Islamic history paper
 
Just read the recent news in Sindh Express regarding another spat of controversy over CCE-2013.According to the news,the checker of Islamic History-I was provided the uncorrected version of the question paper.Originally,the question paper had 2 questions out of syllabus.Subsequently,the administration had the questions replaced with those appropriate to the syllabus after one hour of the start of the paper.Now many of the students might have been failed due to this grave error.In other words,the students who attempted the modified questions would have definitely been awarded 0/60.It's high time we caught time by the forelock and stood vigorously against the injustice.

xpedior Saturday, April 09, 2016 09:46 PM

[QUOTE=Great Afnan;926583]Just read the recent news in Sindh Express regarding another spat of controversy over CCE-2013.According to the news,the checker of Islamic History-I was provided the uncorrected version of the question paper.Originally,the question paper had 2 questions out of syllabus.Subsequently,the administration had the questions replaced with those appropriate to the syllabus after one hour of the start of the paper.Now many of the students might have been failed due to this grave error.In other words,the students who attempted the modified questions would have definitely been awarded 0/60.It's high time we caught time by the forelock and stood vigorously against the injustice.[/QUOTE]
Was the checker so stupid that despite all students wrote something else other than questions, he never bothered to ask administration what was the issue?

Great Afnan Saturday, April 09, 2016 11:35 PM

What else could be expected from the incompetent administration as well as the checkers?

Mohammad Daniyal Monday, April 11, 2016 11:15 PM

Dmc
 
Has anyone opted geography/forestry/agriculture? If yes would you like to share your marks here please? Since most of the candidates are complaining about marks in certain subjects... I want to know what the checker awarded those who opted these subjects as optional.
Thankyou

thar Tuesday, April 12, 2016 06:43 AM

Roll num [B]22648[/B]
Englsh 37
Englsh Essay 20
Essay in Sindhi 0
general Sindhi 62
G.k 78

opptional
History of sindhi litt 105
physics 75
International relation 60

Total 437


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