I don't know why but i feel like hitting Ahsan Iqbal. How on earth he feels that he is "Aql e Kul" to reform civil services. Since he is advocating for possession of particular degree as an eligibility criteria for particular group, can someone ask him that what degree he possess to reform the civil service? Does that degree make him eligible to reform civil services?

Cluster based examination for civil services was introduced in India but system failed miserably and shamefully. Eventually, they reverted back to old system. Clearly, this system isn't workable in underdeveloped countries like Pakistan and India.

Ahsan Iqbal thinks that having relevant degree will equip candidate for certain job. This reflects his ignorance : he is not only oblivious of system of education in Pakistan but also he will restrict pool of talented candidates to serve Pakistan.

First thing first, we all know how pathetic our system of education is, how masters degrees are awarded in universities. Most of university graduates can't find respectable job in corporate sector because university didn't equip them with relevant theoretical and practical knowledge.

On the other hand, we know that an aspirant who chooses an optional subject of 200 mark, Say for example Islamic history and then study hard to prepare that, if he scores more than 60% marks in that subject in CSS then ( according to my experience) he is better equipped with the knowledge of history than a Masters degree holder of any ordinary university.

Mr. Iqbal should do away with the suggestion of "Particular discipline". Instead he should create clusters for civil services occupational groups and each cluster should have it's own optional subjects. For instance, aspirant who want to join PAS should be given variety of subjects related to Public Administration etc to choose. However I recommend that options should be minimum. Likewise aspirant of PSP, FSP, PCS etc should be made to choose relevant subjects.

This will not only equip aspirants with relevant knowledge but also will not restrict talented candidates from entering occupational group of their choice.

Moreover if Mr. Iqbal is an advocate of specialisations then he should do away with CTP and enhance the period and Quality of STP. Surely, civil servants will learn more in STP then they learn in university while acquiring their masters degree.

Secondly, Mr. Iqbal want to directly induct experienced personnel from corporate sector, especially when they're are in their 30's 40's or even 50's. In a corruption ridden Pakistan where even a peon is not hired without a sifarish, how would he make sure that the key posts are solely filled on the basis of merit?

Young Civil servants should only be inducted directly through CSS, afterwards, they should be subjected to continuous rigorous training program to keep them abreast of latest advancement. Concurrently, Civil services is the only merit based institution in Pakistan and I hope the incumbent government doesn't mess with it.

The think tank appraised that it will help to ameliorate the office system, like if someone falls in PAAS they must know the basics of accounting and all and they have to possess accounting degree.
Well, if so why they waste their and bureaucrats time in STP.
What is the purpose of STP then?
If they can not make dab hand a bureaucrat in the pertinent field?
in my opinion it would be a blunder if they change it.

Yes indeed it would a blunder. The focus of reform should be on optional subjects and STP instead of particular degree because degrees in Pakistan are nothing more than a piece of paper.

@ Monk

How you can assume that cluster based exams will require specialized degrees for different groups? I have not heard any such news

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Some media reports suggest so

Bro appraisal in else thing. It is not practical and will not happen. Even in Britain it isn't applicable. Their inductions are almst the way every other country do. for one or two group it could be an exception but overall structure won't change. They are just rumors. No credible sources.

Monk, dude the media sources are just creating a blasphemy, you see the mphill one source was javed chaudhary's website and tribune for that 16 yrs rumor. It is just a rumor. Except for one or two groups it won't be applied even if it is applied. You see for PAS one need to have a degree in public administration, urban planning, revenue based degrees. Consider for psp, law criminology like degrees. How many of us do have it. For accounts group an exception could be expected but other groups wont change.

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I think this, precisely, is the suggested scheme; the reports saying some groups will require particular degrees are inaccurate (in my opinion).

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When Rumour regarding M.Phill was widespread in media then Mr.Iqbal took to the Twitter and tweeted this

https://mobile.twitter.com/betterpak...27779157008384

But he didn't reject categorically the other rumour that "they are considering particular degree for particular group "

http://nation.com.pk/editorials/24-S...civil-services
Let's see what they finally pull out of their "magical hat". Lol

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Please. Since i am posted in that ministry i want to clarify that mr. Ahsan is not dictating these proposals. There is a full governance section and also a project on reform and innovation in govt. In ministry of planning developmentvand reforms. There is no one man show. A member governance heads governance and reform issues. Minister definitely guides but it is not his sole work. Therevis a team of professionals doing this job. So its not correct to say its "aql e kul" of mr. Ahsan iqbal. Furthermore these are proposals. Establishment division will review the summary and even by approving authority.
Note. This is not an official clarification.

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